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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:59 PM
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11. I disagree
The role of leadership is not to compromise your principles, the role of leadership also requires that you back up those that support you, not throw them to the dogs because you want to make a deal, the role of leadership means that you're willing to make hard decisions for the right reasons, right for all, not just yourself or your chosen few.

Mrs. Pelosi isn't a leader, not by any definition of the word!

As for Newt, he was forced out because he pissed in everyone's Wheaties!!!!
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  -Do we need a new Speaker of the House? rateyes  Oct-23-07 12:52 PM   #0 
  - You would get the same exact thing  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 12:54 PM   #1 
  - Lynne, I usually agree with you on just about everything...  rateyes   Oct-23-07 12:56 PM   #5 
  - Then you know nothing about this position  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 12:59 PM   #9 
     - Do a search for rateyes and Conyers...  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:02 PM   #16 
     - Fair enough  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 01:03 PM   #18 
        - It is not the job of a "Frosh" congressperson to BUCK THE PARTY.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:17 PM   #34 
     - Oh, stop making sense and describing how the system actually WORKS!!!  MADem   Oct-23-07 01:03 PM   #19 
     - I understand exactly how it works,  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:08 PM   #26 
     - Controlling the AGENDA does not mean controlling the votes.  MADem   Oct-23-07 01:50 PM   #46 
        - Controlling the agenda allows her to keep stupid legislation  rateyes   Oct-23-07 04:00 PM   #51 
           - I expect her to lead, too. And that IS what she's doing.  MADem   Oct-23-07 04:33 PM   #56 
     - You know something? THAT is EXACTLY the job of the Majority Leadership.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:34 PM   #43 
        - No it isn't. Delay ABUSED his power, yet because he did, you say that's OK?  MADem   Oct-23-07 01:45 PM   #45 
           - No, I NEVER said WHAT Delay STOOD FOR was good.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 02:25 PM   #49 
              - But you are angry at Pelosi for NOT doing what he did??? Well, what am I missing, here?  MADem   Oct-23-07 04:21 PM   #53 
                 - Obviously, you have not read them yourself.  Tyler Durden   Oct-24-07 06:47 AM   #60 
                    - Tyler, give it up. You just said, above, that you wanted Pelosi to be our DeLay  MADem   Oct-24-07 09:29 AM   #61 
                       - I SAID that I wanted PELOSI to act the way the SPEAKER does in a two party system.  Tyler Durden   Oct-24-07 10:24 AM   #64 
                          - No you didn't. Go back and read what you wrote.  MADem   Oct-24-07 10:46 AM   #65 
                             - This will be the last response:  Tyler Durden   Oct-24-07 11:03 AM   #66 
                                - Well, referencing your subject line, that's a relief. NT  MADem   Oct-24-07 12:11 PM   #68 
     - Hypothetical Question  atreides1   Oct-23-07 01:05 PM   #22 
  - I disagree  atreides1   Oct-23-07 12:59 PM   #11 
  - So basically Nancy is the soul functioning brain and everyone else in the party  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 01:02 PM   #17 
     - ask pete stark  frylock   Oct-23-07 01:06 PM   #23 
  - Lynn read up on Sam rayburn, LBJ, Everett Dirksen...even O;Neill...  Didereaux   Oct-24-07 11:07 AM   #67 
  - The way I'm feeling today, you need a 'fuck, YES' option.  AzDar   Oct-23-07 12:54 PM   #2 
  - Sorry, I should've thought of that! nt  rateyes   Oct-23-07 12:58 PM   #7 
  - Wow. It's worse than I thought, already 10 to 1...  rateyes   Oct-23-07 12:54 PM   #3 
  - are you running for office ?  paulk   Oct-23-07 12:54 PM   #4 
  - I'm working on campaigns...  rateyes   Oct-23-07 12:58 PM   #6 
  - no, I'm not running for office...  paulk   Oct-23-07 01:51 PM   #47 
  - Exactly  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 01:00 PM   #12 
     - Lynne, it was Nancy who said "no more blank checks"  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:05 PM   #20 
     - UNLESS they stand up and support the rank and file.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:08 PM   #27 
  - YES! YES!! YES!!!  Lobster Martini   Oct-23-07 12:59 PM   #8 
  - If I had been Stark, after that vote today, when I WASN'T  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:01 PM   #13 
  - The only votes that count are those of the Democratic Caucus in the House of Representatives  MADem   Oct-23-07 12:59 PM   #10 
  - Who elects those who elect her?  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:10 PM   #30 
     - The Democratic caucus, of course.  MADem   Oct-23-07 02:06 PM   #48 
        - Well, my Congressman is DINO Jim Marshall, and I will NOT  rateyes   Oct-23-07 04:03 PM   #52 
           - You might not have to--the cretin wants to run against Chambliss.  MADem   Oct-23-07 04:30 PM   #55 
  - Not just a Yes  Va Lefty   Oct-23-07 01:01 PM   #14 
  - A different Speaker and a different Senate Majority Leader....  marmar   Oct-23-07 01:01 PM   #15 
  - Gingrich or Hastert would submit to CASTRATION before they tolerated a censure...  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:05 PM   #21 
  - That's something I would have paid to see..n/t  Virginia Dare   Oct-23-07 01:08 PM   #25 
  - The castration, or Pelosi and Bohner showing they actually had a pair to cut off?  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:09 PM   #29 
  - That is the truth. nt  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:11 PM   #31 
  - Sorry, but I just have to ask -  mondo joe   Oct-23-07 01:23 PM   #38 
     - That is how a two party system WORKS.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:28 PM   #41 
        - I understand that, but that's not an answer to my question.  mondo joe   Oct-23-07 01:37 PM   #44 
           - I never said we were a particularly politically savvy group as a whole.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 02:28 PM   #50 
  - other- we need a new house.  Bluerthanblue   Oct-23-07 01:06 PM   #24 
  - Prove to me that somebody else could do better...n/t  Virginia Dare   Oct-23-07 01:09 PM   #28 
  - Well, not many could do worse. nt  rateyes   Oct-23-07 01:12 PM   #32 
  - And you know that, how?...n/t  Virginia Dare   Oct-23-07 01:18 PM   #35 
  - Wow .... what an insightful reason. Why not float that .......  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-23-07 04:27 PM   #54 
  - She didn't have to do BETTER....  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:12 PM   #33 
     - Frankly, I'm glad that she apparently doesn't stoop to the tactics..  Virginia Dare   Oct-23-07 01:21 PM   #37 
        - Do you know what the call the Party our of power in a two party system?  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:25 PM   #39 
           - I can't argue with that..  Virginia Dare   Oct-23-07 01:27 PM   #40 
              - The problem is, the SHOW is everything at this moment.  Tyler Durden   Oct-23-07 01:31 PM   #42 
  - I guess it depends on who her successor would be. NT  mondo joe   Oct-23-07 01:20 PM   #36 
  - Pete Stark For Speaker  stirlingsliver   Oct-23-07 04:35 PM   #57 
  - Yeah ... and last week it was the Dem Darling du jour ..... and the week before that .....  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-23-07 05:20 PM   #59 
  - This would be a more serious suggestion if the thread mentioned Olive Garden  Bucky   Oct-23-07 04:50 PM   #58 
     - I'm still waiting to hear who her successor is supposed to be, anyway.  mondo joe   Oct-24-07 09:31 AM   #62 
     - Why no, we can't!!! It would spoil all the fun for the members of the  MADem   Oct-24-07 09:32 AM   #63 

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