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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #88
94. Explain to me
... if you're well-versed, how it could keep from doing anything we want it to.
It doesn't need to be an energy carrier.
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  -Global Warming is Irreversible!? More than 6 Billion People will Perish at Century's End!? leftchick  Oct-22-07 06:34 PM   #0 
  - There are some chances  melody   Oct-22-07 06:38 PM   #1 
  - In that case time travel and wormholes too.  rAVES   Oct-22-07 06:44 PM   #5 
  - No, nanotech actually exists ... time travel doesn't  melody   Oct-22-07 06:51 PM   #11 
     - yet another tech solution.  Javaman   Oct-23-07 11:10 AM   #84 
        - Do me a favor and Google "nanotechnology" and find out what it does  melody   Oct-23-07 11:26 AM   #87 
           - I'm well versed in nanotech.  Javaman   Oct-23-07 11:37 AM   #88 
              - Explain to me  melody   Oct-23-07 04:15 PM   #94 
                 - I asked the question and by you throwing it back at me just shows me  Javaman   Oct-23-07 05:40 PM   #97 
                 - I've answered the question  melody   Oct-23-07 06:16 PM   #108 
                 - Incidentally, your calling yourself "Javaman" is oddly appropriate to an anthropologist ;) n/t  melody   Oct-23-07 06:17 PM   #109 
                    - I drink coffee, that's why. nt  Javaman   Oct-24-07 09:52 AM   #128 
                 - Nanotechnology requires energy, Melody. I think that's his point.  Zhade   Oct-23-07 06:25 PM   #110 
                    - I get his point. I've answered it. He's just arrogantly assuming he knows more than we do.  melody   Oct-23-07 06:27 PM   #111 
                       - nt  Javaman   Oct-24-07 09:54 AM   #129 
  - nanotech scares the crap out of me too  leftchick   Oct-22-07 07:07 PM   #14 
  - Guess that is what future torture victims will have to endure, nano experiments, if they are not  lonestarnot   Oct-22-07 07:36 PM   #30 
  - Well, if the choices are irreversible planetary and species destruction OR nanotech  melody   Oct-22-07 08:11 PM   #36 
  - Want to get a glimpse of a nano future. google "nurdle"...  Javaman   Oct-23-07 11:12 AM   #85 
     - Not the nurdle stuff again  melody   Oct-23-07 04:46 PM   #95 
        - whatever dude have fun in your basement coming up with a new energy source  Javaman   Oct-23-07 05:41 PM   #98 
        - Not a diss, but - your fervent belief in nanotech borders on a religious faith.  Zhade   Oct-23-07 06:27 PM   #112 
           - I don't have fervent belief in anything -- please read the context, Zhade.  melody   Oct-23-07 06:29 PM   #113 
              - Perhaps if you included  Javaman   Oct-24-07 09:58 AM   #130 
  - Smalley was right about nanotech.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:50 PM   #102 
  - He's become the same as the deniers.  Rhythm and Blue   Oct-22-07 06:41 PM   #2 
  - yup exactly what he said.. you nailed it...  rAVES   Oct-22-07 06:45 PM   #6 
  - No. He's basing his conclusions on observations that are not plugged into models yet.  Harper_is_Bush   Oct-22-07 06:46 PM   #7 
  - Exactly.  Admiral Loinpresser   Oct-22-07 10:21 PM   #43 
  - The IPCC is indeed too conservative  Duppers   Oct-22-07 11:30 PM   #48 
     - James Hansen - "If this is the best we can do, perhaps we should be doing farming or something else"  hatrack   Oct-23-07 07:42 AM   #71 
  - Very good reading!  DLnyc   Oct-23-07 12:35 AM   #60 
  - Unfortunately, the models are turning pessimistic.  Tesha   Oct-22-07 07:50 PM   #34 
  - if the truth were known, the riots would already be starting.  QuestionAll   Oct-22-07 11:08 PM   #46 
  - Nah, they're getting more precise. Go to RealClimate.org.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:59 PM   #107 
  - did you actually read the article? nt  Javaman   Oct-23-07 11:13 AM   #86 
  - About 74,000 years ago  hobbit709   Oct-22-07 06:41 PM   #3 
  - Yup. This won't be the first time, nor will it be the last. nt  NCevilDUer   Oct-22-07 06:46 PM   #8 
     - That is why Shiva is equally prominent. Death and rebirth.  burythehatchet   Oct-22-07 07:14 PM   #17 
  - Bush and Cheney might blow us all up before that n/t  malaise   Oct-22-07 06:42 PM   #4 
  - Yikes. That's 14 months and 29 days left, MAX.  Amonester   Oct-22-07 07:25 PM   #25 
  - Just look at the posts from DUer GliderGuider in E/E  Canuckistanian   Oct-22-07 06:48 PM   #9 
  - And that is too often totally overlooked in formulating scenarios.  karlrschneider   Oct-22-07 06:56 PM   #12 
  - what about all the old growth forests?  pretzel4gore   Oct-22-07 08:16 PM   #38 
  - Yeah, but petroleum energy is pretty dang abundant.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:54 PM   #103 
  - Message: We're Fucked - Prepare For War - Pollute At Will  kurth   Oct-22-07 06:49 PM   #10 
  - he may well be right, but so what?  cali   Oct-22-07 07:02 PM   #13 
  - Humanity will survive, if Humanity deserves it.  tekisui   Oct-22-07 07:09 PM   #15 
  - Yes you can live like he's right. It pays to be aware and to prepare  Lorien   Oct-22-07 11:57 PM   #52 
     - you seem to have misundertood what i was saying  cali   Oct-23-07 01:23 AM   #61 
  - I am switching back my light bulbs  The Straight Story   Oct-22-07 07:10 PM   #16 
  - thanks  leftchick   Oct-22-07 07:17 PM   #18 
  - And I now drive to work - despite living less than a mile away...  HypnoToad   Oct-22-07 07:32 PM   #28 
  - Lovelock is quite reputable. Nice work mankind! You f'ing blew it!  autorank   Oct-22-07 07:18 PM   #19 
  - I weep for my babies  leftchick   Oct-22-07 07:22 PM   #24 
     - It's just an outrage. I want trials and convictions of those responsible.  autorank   Oct-22-07 10:03 PM   #42 
     - my thoughts exactly  Duppers   Oct-22-07 11:52 PM   #51 
  - We'll see. - n/t  porphyrian   Oct-22-07 07:18 PM   #20 
  - So we just give up?  RestoreGore   Oct-22-07 07:20 PM   #21 
  - Hell no!  lonestarnot   Oct-22-07 07:38 PM   #31 
  - That's the basic sentiment from this POV.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:55 PM   #105 
  - Scientists can solve the problem.  HypnoToad   Oct-22-07 07:21 PM   #22 
  - Yes you should if you are young enough.  lonestarnot   Oct-22-07 07:39 PM   #32 
  - Age 35 - too young?  HypnoToad   Oct-22-07 08:14 PM   #37 
     - I'm 36...just got my PhD this year  Zodiak Ironfist   Oct-23-07 10:50 AM   #83 
     - Nope, just right.  lonestarnot   Oct-23-07 12:11 PM   #90 
  - I just talked with a young woman graduating in December.  Dora   Oct-23-07 11:08 PM   #124 
  - Particulate polutants have been masking global warming for decades  Az   Oct-22-07 07:22 PM   #23 
  - You saw the same Nova program I did ;)  jgraz   Oct-23-07 03:36 AM   #65 
  - All we have to do is outsource the problem  Cronus Protagonist   Oct-22-07 07:28 PM   #26 
  - They're all cheap enough, but if their work on Vista is any indication,  HypnoToad   Oct-22-07 07:30 PM   #27 
  - LOL  entanglement   Oct-23-07 08:38 AM   #73 
  - "There is no safety in the cosmos." - Alan Watts  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-22-07 07:33 PM   #29 
  - isn't it just amazing?  NJCher   Oct-22-07 07:40 PM   #33 
  - No kids here either  sleebarker   Oct-22-07 08:30 PM   #39 
     - No kids here either. I would have loved to have been a mother  Lorien   Oct-23-07 12:01 AM   #55 
  - Unfortunately, this is what I actually believe.  tblue37   Oct-22-07 08:04 PM   #35 
  - In the prophetic words of Riddick..."it had to end some time"  UnyieldingHierophant   Oct-22-07 08:34 PM   #40 
  - What do we tell the children? n/t  DemoGreen   Oct-22-07 09:28 PM   #41 
  - What will THEY tell THEIR children about us?  Cronus Protagonist   Oct-22-07 11:22 PM   #47 
     - You are too optimistic  Lorien   Oct-22-07 11:58 PM   #53 
        - We have to prevent that  Cronus Protagonist   Oct-22-07 11:59 PM   #54 
  - He is also a professional liar.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-22-07 10:31 PM   #44 
  - Lovelock doesn't believe anti-nuclear BS? The HORROR, the HORROR!!!  Odin2005   Oct-22-07 11:00 PM   #45 
  - Yeah, a man with a lifelong history of whoring for the mega-corporations is someone you would trust.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-22-07 11:37 PM   #50 
     - Thanks for this. I'd accepted this guy without enough review.  autorank   Oct-23-07 02:14 AM   #62 
     - The danger of the tipping point is real, but  ConsAreLiars   Oct-23-07 02:34 AM   #63 
     - Thank you cons  leftchick   Oct-23-07 01:01 PM   #91 
        - The danger is clear and present, but Lovelock is a hack.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-23-07 10:44 PM   #121 
     - The Gaia hypothesis has been disproved.  bananas   Oct-23-07 02:53 PM   #92 
     - thanks for your post, Cons  NJCher   Oct-23-07 03:28 AM   #64 
     - Whenever doomsayers tell us to give up, stop working for change,  ConsAreLiars   Oct-23-07 10:57 PM   #123 
     - You obviously don't understand the Gaia Hypothesis.  Odin2005   Oct-23-07 07:50 AM   #72 
  - nice try. nt  Duppers   Oct-23-07 12:02 AM   #56 
     - What a brilliant put down. You must be impressed with your wit.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-23-07 12:13 AM   #57 
        - well  Duppers   Oct-23-07 12:19 AM   #58 
           - He has ALWAYS argued for doing nothing. This shows his motivation.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-23-07 12:33 AM   #59 
              - And A LOT of people buy it.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:57 PM   #106 
  - Mother Nature is ticked  lovuian   Oct-22-07 11:34 PM   #49 
  - After reading the entire thread: What does Al Gore & RFK Jr. think of this guy? Anyone know? nt  TheGoldenRule   Oct-23-07 05:19 AM   #66 
  - Why would the death of 6 billiion people be Bad Thing ?n/t.  Beerboy   Oct-23-07 05:22 AM   #67 
  - If you don't know then nothing we say is going to teach you.  Marrah_G   Oct-23-07 10:05 AM   #78 
  - The same reason the death of a million other species.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:44 PM   #100 
  - 6 billion are guaranteed to die by century end w/ or w/o global warming!  HamdenRice   Oct-23-07 05:46 AM   #68 
  - There is a tipping point, and I think we did reach it a while back.  SoCalDem   Oct-23-07 06:00 AM   #69 
  - Much more on Dr. Lovelock here  leftchick   Oct-23-07 07:21 AM   #70 
  - Awake from your dreamtime  seemslikeadream   Oct-23-07 09:36 AM   #76 
     - thank you SLaD  leftchick   Oct-23-07 10:13 AM   #79 
  - Isn't that the life cycle of a plague species?  The Stranger   Oct-23-07 09:13 AM   #74 
  - Nature will solve global warming for us since we won't.  Sentinel Chicken   Oct-23-07 09:36 AM   #75 
  - I just finished Lovelock's latest book  stuntcat   Oct-23-07 10:02 AM   #77 
  - Tim Flannery on Nuclear Energy  leftchick   Oct-23-07 10:17 AM   #80 
  - (ty)  stuntcat   Oct-23-07 10:33 AM   #81 
     - I heard him on Fresh Air last winter  leftchick   Oct-23-07 11:43 AM   #89 
  - Gaia reframes native american religion for western thought  RainDog   Oct-23-07 03:33 PM   #93 
  - We use less energy than algae.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:43 PM   #99 
  - It's all up to us  Hydra   Oct-23-07 10:39 AM   #82 
  - I vote for fighting and tribalism  sleebarker   Oct-23-07 05:04 PM   #96 
     - And that's why it's the great challenge  Hydra   Oct-24-07 10:13 AM   #132 
  - Lovelock, Derick Jensen, et al all lack insight.  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 05:46 PM   #101 
  - so long, it's been good to know ya  mark414   Oct-23-07 05:55 PM   #104 
  - Living in LA County, I think I'm experiencing the effects of GW right now.  robertpaulsen   Oct-23-07 06:30 PM   #114 
  - stay safe robert  leftchick   Oct-23-07 07:00 PM   #116 
  - I'm a Gaian and came to this conclusion quite a while ago  tavalon   Oct-23-07 06:54 PM   #115 
  - Where are the scientists?  ideagarden   Oct-23-07 07:18 PM   #117 
  - Beck is crazy. See RealClimate.org  joshcryer   Oct-23-07 07:32 PM   #118 
  - Ha! Here we have another LaRoucher, folks!  Duppers   Oct-23-07 09:44 PM   #119 
  - Thanks, LaDouche-Bag. n/t  Admiral Loinpresser   Oct-23-07 09:52 PM   #120 
  - OMG!!! A real live... why, I've never seen one this new! It's sooo cute!  Dora   Oct-23-07 11:10 PM   #125 
  - Where are the scientists? They're off at Area 51, meeting with Lyndon . . .  hatrack   Oct-24-07 10:01 AM   #131 
  - OK-I found a couple of Rolling Stones interviews with Al Gore where he talks about Lovelock-  TheGoldenRule   Oct-23-07 10:54 PM   #122 
  - thank you, GR  Duppers   Oct-24-07 12:36 AM   #127 
     - After all that has happened these long 7 years, I too want to jump & think the worst.  TheGoldenRule   Oct-24-07 05:40 PM   #133 
  - Don't worry about it.  TheWraith   Oct-23-07 11:54 PM   #126 
 

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