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Tue Oct-23-07 03:36 AM
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| 65. You saw the same Nova program I did ;) |
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Scared the shit outta me.
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| -Global Warming is Irreversible!? More than 6 Billion People will Perish at Century's End!? |
leftchick |
Oct-22-07 06:34 PM |
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There are some chances |
melody |
Oct-22-07 06:38 PM |
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In that case time travel and wormholes too. |
rAVES |
Oct-22-07 06:44 PM |
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No, nanotech actually exists ... time travel doesn't |
melody |
Oct-22-07 06:51 PM |
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yet another tech solution. |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 11:10 AM |
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Do me a favor and Google "nanotechnology" and find out what it does |
melody |
Oct-23-07 11:26 AM |
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I'm well versed in nanotech. |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 11:37 AM |
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Explain to me |
melody |
Oct-23-07 04:15 PM |
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I asked the question and by you throwing it back at me just shows me |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 05:40 PM |
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I've answered the question |
melody |
Oct-23-07 06:16 PM |
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Incidentally, your calling yourself "Javaman" is oddly appropriate to an anthropologist ;) n/t |
melody |
Oct-23-07 06:17 PM |
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I drink coffee, that's why. nt |
Javaman |
Oct-24-07 09:52 AM |
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Nanotechnology requires energy, Melody. I think that's his point. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-07 06:25 PM |
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I get his point. I've answered it. He's just arrogantly assuming he knows more than we do. |
melody |
Oct-23-07 06:27 PM |
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nt |
Javaman |
Oct-24-07 09:54 AM |
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nanotech scares the crap out of me too |
leftchick |
Oct-22-07 07:07 PM |
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Guess that is what future torture victims will have to endure, nano experiments, if they are not |
lonestarnot |
Oct-22-07 07:36 PM |
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Well, if the choices are irreversible planetary and species destruction OR nanotech |
melody |
Oct-22-07 08:11 PM |
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Want to get a glimpse of a nano future. google "nurdle"... |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 11:12 AM |
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Not the nurdle stuff again |
melody |
Oct-23-07 04:46 PM |
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whatever dude have fun in your basement coming up with a new energy source |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 05:41 PM |
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Not a diss, but - your fervent belief in nanotech borders on a religious faith. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-07 06:27 PM |
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I don't have fervent belief in anything -- please read the context, Zhade. |
melody |
Oct-23-07 06:29 PM |
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Perhaps if you included |
Javaman |
Oct-24-07 09:58 AM |
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Smalley was right about nanotech. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:50 PM |
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He's become the same as the deniers. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-22-07 06:41 PM |
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yup exactly what he said.. you nailed it... |
rAVES |
Oct-22-07 06:45 PM |
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No. He's basing his conclusions on observations that are not plugged into models yet. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Oct-22-07 06:46 PM |
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Exactly. |
Admiral Loinpresser |
Oct-22-07 10:21 PM |
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The IPCC is indeed too conservative |
Duppers |
Oct-22-07 11:30 PM |
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James Hansen - "If this is the best we can do, perhaps we should be doing farming or something else" |
hatrack |
Oct-23-07 07:42 AM |
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Very good reading! |
DLnyc |
Oct-23-07 12:35 AM |
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Unfortunately, the models are turning pessimistic. |
Tesha |
Oct-22-07 07:50 PM |
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if the truth were known, the riots would already be starting. |
QuestionAll |
Oct-22-07 11:08 PM |
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Nah, they're getting more precise. Go to RealClimate.org. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:59 PM |
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did you actually read the article? nt |
Javaman |
Oct-23-07 11:13 AM |
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About 74,000 years ago |
hobbit709 |
Oct-22-07 06:41 PM |
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Yup. This won't be the first time, nor will it be the last. nt |
NCevilDUer |
Oct-22-07 06:46 PM |
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That is why Shiva is equally prominent. Death and rebirth. |
burythehatchet |
Oct-22-07 07:14 PM |
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Bush and Cheney might blow us all up before that n/t |
malaise |
Oct-22-07 06:42 PM |
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Yikes. That's 14 months and 29 days left, MAX. |
Amonester |
Oct-22-07 07:25 PM |
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Just look at the posts from DUer GliderGuider in E/E |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-22-07 06:48 PM |
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And that is too often totally overlooked in formulating scenarios. |
karlrschneider |
Oct-22-07 06:56 PM |
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what about all the old growth forests? |
pretzel4gore |
Oct-22-07 08:16 PM |
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Yeah, but petroleum energy is pretty dang abundant. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:54 PM |
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Message: We're Fucked - Prepare For War - Pollute At Will |
kurth |
Oct-22-07 06:49 PM |
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he may well be right, but so what? |
cali |
Oct-22-07 07:02 PM |
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Humanity will survive, if Humanity deserves it. |
tekisui |
Oct-22-07 07:09 PM |
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Yes you can live like he's right. It pays to be aware and to prepare |
Lorien |
Oct-22-07 11:57 PM |
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you seem to have misundertood what i was saying |
cali |
Oct-23-07 01:23 AM |
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I am switching back my light bulbs |
The Straight Story |
Oct-22-07 07:10 PM |
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thanks |
leftchick |
Oct-22-07 07:17 PM |
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And I now drive to work - despite living less than a mile away... |
HypnoToad |
Oct-22-07 07:32 PM |
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Lovelock is quite reputable. Nice work mankind! You f'ing blew it! |
autorank |
Oct-22-07 07:18 PM |
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I weep for my babies |
leftchick |
Oct-22-07 07:22 PM |
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It's just an outrage. I want trials and convictions of those responsible. |
autorank |
Oct-22-07 10:03 PM |
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my thoughts exactly |
Duppers |
Oct-22-07 11:52 PM |
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We'll see. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Oct-22-07 07:18 PM |
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So we just give up? |
RestoreGore |
Oct-22-07 07:20 PM |
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Hell no! |
lonestarnot |
Oct-22-07 07:38 PM |
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That's the basic sentiment from this POV. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:55 PM |
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Scientists can solve the problem. |
HypnoToad |
Oct-22-07 07:21 PM |
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Yes you should if you are young enough. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-22-07 07:39 PM |
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Age 35 - too young? |
HypnoToad |
Oct-22-07 08:14 PM |
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I'm 36...just got my PhD this year |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Oct-23-07 10:50 AM |
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Nope, just right. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-23-07 12:11 PM |
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I just talked with a young woman graduating in December. |
Dora |
Oct-23-07 11:08 PM |
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Particulate polutants have been masking global warming for decades |
Az |
Oct-22-07 07:22 PM |
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You saw the same Nova program I did ;) |
jgraz |
Oct-23-07 03:36 AM |
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All we have to do is outsource the problem |
Cronus Protagonist |
Oct-22-07 07:28 PM |
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They're all cheap enough, but if their work on Vista is any indication, |
HypnoToad |
Oct-22-07 07:30 PM |
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LOL |
entanglement |
Oct-23-07 08:38 AM |
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"There is no safety in the cosmos." - Alan Watts |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-22-07 07:33 PM |
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isn't it just amazing? |
NJCher |
Oct-22-07 07:40 PM |
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No kids here either |
sleebarker |
Oct-22-07 08:30 PM |
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No kids here either. I would have loved to have been a mother |
Lorien |
Oct-23-07 12:01 AM |
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Unfortunately, this is what I actually believe. |
tblue37 |
Oct-22-07 08:04 PM |
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In the prophetic words of Riddick..."it had to end some time" |
UnyieldingHierophant |
Oct-22-07 08:34 PM |
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What do we tell the children? n/t |
DemoGreen |
Oct-22-07 09:28 PM |
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What will THEY tell THEIR children about us? |
Cronus Protagonist |
Oct-22-07 11:22 PM |
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You are too optimistic |
Lorien |
Oct-22-07 11:58 PM |
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We have to prevent that |
Cronus Protagonist |
Oct-22-07 11:59 PM |
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He is also a professional liar. |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-22-07 10:31 PM |
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Lovelock doesn't believe anti-nuclear BS? The HORROR, the HORROR!!! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-22-07 11:00 PM |
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Yeah, a man with a lifelong history of whoring for the mega-corporations is someone you would trust. |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-22-07 11:37 PM |
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Thanks for this. I'd accepted this guy without enough review. |
autorank |
Oct-23-07 02:14 AM |
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The danger of the tipping point is real, but |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-23-07 02:34 AM |
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Thank you cons |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 01:01 PM |
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The danger is clear and present, but Lovelock is a hack. |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-23-07 10:44 PM |
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The Gaia hypothesis has been disproved. |
bananas |
Oct-23-07 02:53 PM |
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thanks for your post, Cons |
NJCher |
Oct-23-07 03:28 AM |
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Whenever doomsayers tell us to give up, stop working for change, |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-23-07 10:57 PM |
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You obviously don't understand the Gaia Hypothesis. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-23-07 07:50 AM |
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nice try. nt |
Duppers |
Oct-23-07 12:02 AM |
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What a brilliant put down. You must be impressed with your wit. |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-23-07 12:13 AM |
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well |
Duppers |
Oct-23-07 12:19 AM |
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He has ALWAYS argued for doing nothing. This shows his motivation. |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-23-07 12:33 AM |
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And A LOT of people buy it. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:57 PM |
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Mother Nature is ticked |
lovuian |
Oct-22-07 11:34 PM |
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After reading the entire thread: What does Al Gore & RFK Jr. think of this guy? Anyone know? nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Oct-23-07 05:19 AM |
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Why would the death of 6 billiion people be Bad Thing ?n/t. |
Beerboy |
Oct-23-07 05:22 AM |
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If you don't know then nothing we say is going to teach you. |
Marrah_G |
Oct-23-07 10:05 AM |
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The same reason the death of a million other species. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:44 PM |
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6 billion are guaranteed to die by century end w/ or w/o global warming! |
HamdenRice |
Oct-23-07 05:46 AM |
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There is a tipping point, and I think we did reach it a while back. |
SoCalDem |
Oct-23-07 06:00 AM |
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Much more on Dr. Lovelock here |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 07:21 AM |
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Awake from your dreamtime |
seemslikeadream |
Oct-23-07 09:36 AM |
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thank you SLaD |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 10:13 AM |
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Isn't that the life cycle of a plague species? |
The Stranger |
Oct-23-07 09:13 AM |
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Nature will solve global warming for us since we won't. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Oct-23-07 09:36 AM |
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I just finished Lovelock's latest book |
stuntcat |
Oct-23-07 10:02 AM |
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Tim Flannery on Nuclear Energy |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 10:17 AM |
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(ty) |
stuntcat |
Oct-23-07 10:33 AM |
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I heard him on Fresh Air last winter |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 11:43 AM |
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Gaia reframes native american religion for western thought |
RainDog |
Oct-23-07 03:33 PM |
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We use less energy than algae. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:43 PM |
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It's all up to us |
Hydra |
Oct-23-07 10:39 AM |
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I vote for fighting and tribalism |
sleebarker |
Oct-23-07 05:04 PM |
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And that's why it's the great challenge |
Hydra |
Oct-24-07 10:13 AM |
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Lovelock, Derick Jensen, et al all lack insight. |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 05:46 PM |
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so long, it's been good to know ya |
mark414 |
Oct-23-07 05:55 PM |
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Living in LA County, I think I'm experiencing the effects of GW right now. |
robertpaulsen |
Oct-23-07 06:30 PM |
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stay safe robert |
leftchick |
Oct-23-07 07:00 PM |
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I'm a Gaian and came to this conclusion quite a while ago |
tavalon |
Oct-23-07 06:54 PM |
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Where are the scientists? |
ideagarden |
Oct-23-07 07:18 PM |
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Beck is crazy. See RealClimate.org |
joshcryer |
Oct-23-07 07:32 PM |
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Ha! Here we have another LaRoucher, folks! |
Duppers |
Oct-23-07 09:44 PM |
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Thanks, LaDouche-Bag. n/t |
Admiral Loinpresser |
Oct-23-07 09:52 PM |
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OMG!!! A real live... why, I've never seen one this new! It's sooo cute! |
Dora |
Oct-23-07 11:10 PM |
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Where are the scientists? They're off at Area 51, meeting with Lyndon . . . |
hatrack |
Oct-24-07 10:01 AM |
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OK-I found a couple of Rolling Stones interviews with Al Gore where he talks about Lovelock- |
TheGoldenRule |
Oct-23-07 10:54 PM |
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thank you, GR |
Duppers |
Oct-24-07 12:36 AM |
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After all that has happened these long 7 years, I too want to jump & think the worst. |
TheGoldenRule |
Oct-24-07 05:40 PM |
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Don't worry about it. |
TheWraith |
Oct-23-07 11:54 PM |
#126 |
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