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Sun Oct-21-07 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 19. They created corporations. |
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The Church has a large part to do with the power structure. It is not just something new thought up by the Baptists.
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| -What is the relationship between corporatists and theocrats? |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:15 PM |
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I think it's more like they've made an alliance and agreed on what each would get, |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 06:17 PM |
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I have said that in the past, so I get it. Which do you think is the bigger threat? n./t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:19 PM |
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I don't know that one is a greater threat - they're both qute bad. |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 06:22 PM |
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Do you think the theocrats have independence from the corporatists? n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:26 PM |
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I think they've made an ugly alliance and neither is independent of the other - |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 06:28 PM |
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I see. Thanks for you comments. n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:30 PM |
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Most Theocrats are "corporations". |
Rosemary2205 |
Oct-21-07 06:19 PM |
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So, then the theocrats are playing the corporatist game?... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:21 PM |
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IMHO neither. |
Rosemary2205 |
Oct-21-07 06:30 PM |
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But, isn't the push against Net Neut largely coming from the corps? |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:34 PM |
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Those are the elites of the theocrats - but the True Believers are a different |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 06:23 PM |
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I don't agree that TRUE believers are a problem at all. |
Rosemary2205 |
Oct-21-07 06:31 PM |
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I don't know if we share the definitin of true believers. |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 06:34 PM |
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Since I'm either a theoretical Buddhist, or an agnostic, please supply me a def of true believer n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:36 PM |
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Since we were talking about theocrats, I meant true believers in the context of |
mondo joe |
Oct-21-07 07:02 PM |
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Money is god to both groups. --nt |
CrispyQGirl |
Oct-21-07 06:21 PM |
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All of the above. |
baldguy |
Oct-21-07 06:21 PM |
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Interesting that you think corporations are, in any way, "scared". |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:24 PM |
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Of course they do. |
baldguy |
Oct-21-07 06:37 PM |
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True. But that just means Cheney will push the "martial law" button sooner... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:43 PM |
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Cheney declaring martial law would feed into the fundies Apocolyptic insanities. They'd love it. |
baldguy |
Oct-21-07 07:13 PM |
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Great point: "the alliance only works when the corporatists are on top". n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 07:15 PM |
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meggido. |
Whisp |
Oct-21-07 06:22 PM |
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Not sure what your point is, re corps vs fundies. n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:25 PM |
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the word Armaegedon (sp?) |
Whisp |
Oct-21-07 06:47 PM |
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That's pretty scary. Corps sell fundies the means to kill the planet, and both are happy. Yuk. n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:50 PM |
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culling. |
Whisp |
Oct-21-07 07:00 PM |
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You have to be Strangelovian-nuts to think you can ride out a nuclear war. n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 07:14 PM |
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me? sure. I'm not gonna survive it. |
Whisp |
Oct-21-07 07:17 PM |
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"you" means the cullers. not you, whisp n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 07:14 PM |
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You have to understand that there are two types of religious people |
Rex |
Oct-21-07 06:26 PM |
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My definition of theocrat is more "my way or I will kill you"... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:29 PM |
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They created corporations. |
Rex |
Oct-21-07 06:34 PM |
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It sounds like you think the theocrats are not totally dependent on the corps... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:39 PM |
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Actually yes that sounds like what I'm thinking. |
Rex |
Oct-21-07 06:43 PM |
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I am ignorant of how rich the various theocrat corporate empires are... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:45 PM |
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Hey these are some of the best questions I've seen on DU in awhile. |
Rex |
Oct-21-07 06:53 PM |
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:smacks head: How could I forget Moon? |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 07:12 PM |
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Alles in einem. |
Karenina |
Oct-21-07 07:43 PM |
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The theocrats are capable of independent action |
flashl |
Oct-21-07 06:45 PM |
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I never had Reed down as a believer, just a cynical manipulator... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:53 PM |
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it's actually a theory of governing put out by that wacko from the university of chicago -- |
xchrom |
Oct-21-07 06:37 PM |
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OK. A vote for Straussian lies and manipulation. Fair enough. n/t |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:41 PM |
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Theocrats are a predictable conservative consumer base and corporatists need a herd. -n/t |
porphyrian |
Oct-21-07 06:44 PM |
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The corporatists use the theocrats to get support |
rocknation |
Oct-21-07 06:45 PM |
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Uneasy alliance. #3's the closest, but the theocrats are aware of the imbalance. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-21-07 06:45 PM |
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There's a huge problem with this kind of speculation |
cali |
Oct-21-07 06:51 PM |
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Absolutely correct. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-21-07 06:54 PM |
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They Want to Adopt the Saudi Arabia Model of Theocracy |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-21-07 06:46 PM |
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If the corporations have extra-territoriality, the theocrats can't touch them... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 06:48 PM |
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money trumps morals |
kineneb |
Oct-21-07 11:28 PM |
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Au contraire...you have summed it up most concisely, not rambling at all n/t |
arendt |
Oct-22-07 07:21 AM |
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I'd say 3 |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-21-07 07:37 PM |
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Point by point... |
Didereaux |
Oct-21-07 08:04 PM |
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"corporatists only make and sell Kool-Aid...priests serve it" - best line of a great response... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 10:27 PM |
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...sadly the last chance maybe |
Didereaux |
Oct-22-07 08:11 AM |
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a pic is worth how many words?... |
Didereaux |
Oct-22-07 01:22 PM |
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Theonomic Reconstructionists want to build heave here on earth then Jesus will return |
seemslikeadream |
Oct-21-07 08:30 PM |
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The little History helps to understand this combination |
happyslug |
Oct-21-07 09:54 PM |
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Thanks for your hard work. Huge amount of context. That's a lot of typing... |
arendt |
Oct-21-07 10:36 PM |
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I should NOT do things like that late at night when I should be in bed |
happyslug |
Oct-22-07 07:24 AM |
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that's like choosing between gunshot or knife wound |
leftofthedial |
Oct-21-07 11:37 PM |
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Don't leave out the statists |
NoMoreMyths |
Oct-22-07 08:19 AM |
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I vote for #3 |
dkofos |
Oct-22-07 01:25 PM |
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