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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 02:26 AM
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24. :poopcorn:
According to the 2007 U.N. World Drug Report, the percentage of Europeans who use illicit drugs is about half that of Americans. (Europe also has fewer than half as many deaths from overdoses.)
Read more here: http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/wdr07/WDR_2007.pdf


"How have they managed that - in Europe, no less, which shocks some American sensibilities with its underage drinking, marijuana tolerance and heroin-friendly "needle parks"?

They treat drug abuse not as a crime but as an illness. And they measure the effectiveness of their drug policy not in arrests but in harm reduction.

Generally, Europeans employ a three-pronged strategy of police, educators and doctors. Police zero in on dealers - not users - to limit the supply of drugs. Users often get off with a warning and are directed to get treatment. Anti-drug education programs warn people (especially young people) of the dangers of drugs, but they get beyond the "zero tolerance" and "three strikes" rhetoric that may sound good to voters but rings hollow with addicts and at-risk teens. And finally, the medical community steps in to battle health problems associated with drug use (especially HIV and hepatitis C) and help addicts get back their lives."

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/op_ed/hc-steves1016...
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  -S.F. considers ‘shooting gallery’ for drug addicts Contrary1  Oct-18-07 10:46 PM   #0 
  - Next thing you know you will be allowed to smoke in bars there  The Straight Story   Oct-18-07 10:49 PM   #1 
  - Yes that second hand heroin  Demobrat   Oct-18-07 11:02 PM   #6 
  - Reasons why shooting gallery would beneficial  allisonthegreat   Oct-19-07 12:30 PM   #54 
     - "It would of course reduce od's."  madeline_con   Oct-19-07 06:09 PM   #63 
  - Best reply ever on DU  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 09:14 AM   #34 
  - I can only dream  shadowknows69   Oct-19-07 09:20 AM   #36 
  - The fine for smoking a cigarette in a bar in California is about $250  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 10:50 AM   #43 
  - ......  FarceOfNature   Oct-19-07 12:24 PM   #53 
  - Fantastic idea.  JackBeck   Oct-18-07 10:52 PM   #2 
  - They get pretty much slagged in the media here in Australia.  Blashyrkh   Oct-18-07 10:58 PM   #3 
  - Holland and Germany have seen a reduction in OD's from IDU.  JackBeck   Oct-18-07 11:06 PM   #8 
  - It's down in Kings Cross, and it's working just fine.  High Plains   Oct-19-07 11:40 AM   #48 
  - It's certainly a start.  liberalmuse   Oct-18-07 11:01 PM   #4 
  - Many places? Could you list 4 and the method in which they worked?  seriousstan   Oct-18-07 11:13 PM   #9 
     - Switzerland, Holland, Germany and the Netherlands.  JackBeck   Oct-18-07 11:25 PM   #10 
     - If you can herd junkies into nurses supervised shooting galleries, you can herd cats.  seriousstan   Oct-18-07 11:39 PM   #12 
     - We've been able to herd drinkers into a supervised environment.  JackBeck   Oct-18-07 11:56 PM   #13 
     - I'm am waiting for those examples.  seriousstan   Oct-19-07 12:42 AM   #14 
        - ...  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 08:16 AM   #31 
     - Okay, I'll tell you. Desperate people often commit desperate acts.  Heidi   Oct-19-07 01:07 AM   #15 
     - Show me the articles in a MSM . Not an advocate website.  seriousstan   Oct-19-07 02:05 AM   #21 
     - Okie dokie.  Heidi   Oct-19-07 02:22 AM   #23 
        - Thanks. Of course the dittoheads never offer any of their own, demand others "proive it" and  ConsAreLiars   Oct-19-07 03:14 AM   #26 
           - I did note that there was no rebuttal to the UN study and the MSM analysis that I posted  Heidi   Oct-19-07 03:17 AM   #27 
     - And the price has dropped and the availability has increased.  seriousstan   Oct-19-07 02:19 AM   #22 
        - :poopcorn:  Heidi   Oct-19-07 02:26 AM   #24 
           - And to think I posted two out of those three points, without reading that article.  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 08:14 AM   #30 
              - Please feel free  Heidi   Oct-19-07 09:12 AM   #33 
                 - That's exactly what I wanted to say this morning.  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 10:31 AM   #42 
     - From a public health standpoint, this isn't about 'all' junkies  LeftCoast   Oct-19-07 02:26 AM   #25 
     - Check out the results from the Vancouver safe injection site  High Plains   Oct-19-07 11:43 AM   #49 
     - Don't addicts in those countries get medically prescribed drugs and/or treatment?  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 09:22 AM   #38 
     - Links please.  Horse with no Name   Oct-19-07 12:34 PM   #55 
        - Here's the 2007 U.N. Drug Study.  Heidi   Oct-19-07 12:59 PM   #56 
  - I don't know about this  KingFlorez   Oct-18-07 11:02 PM   #5 
  - What they are facilitating is  Demobrat   Oct-18-07 11:05 PM   #7 
  - Harm reduction. They will do it anyway.  sfexpat2000   Oct-19-07 01:10 AM   #16 
     - Harm reduction is exactly the point and the goal of any healthy society.  ConsAreLiars   Oct-19-07 01:38 AM   #17 
     - I'm glad someone knows what I'm babbling about.  sfexpat2000   Oct-19-07 01:48 AM   #18 
     - "It works"... meaning what?  D-Sooner   Oct-19-07 11:07 AM   #46 
        - The city is not saying it's okay to be drug addicted.  sfexpat2000   Oct-19-07 11:16 AM   #47 
        - Question:  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 11:57 AM   #51 
           - Absolutely not  D-Sooner   Oct-19-07 03:22 PM   #60 
              - I'll stick with the CDC and NIH on this one.  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 05:30 PM   #61 
  - They should let Starbucks spike the coffee.  Skink   Oct-18-07 11:33 PM   #11 
  - **Bump***  Contrary1   Oct-19-07 01:55 AM   #19 
  - I should have bumped that....  Contrary1   Oct-19-07 01:59 AM   #20 
  - Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.  BB1   Oct-19-07 03:33 AM   #28 
  - I can't speak for all San Franciscans  LeftCoast   Oct-19-07 03:36 AM   #29 
  - It's a very pragmatic action, ala Holland or Germany, that almost never happens over here....  marmar   Oct-19-07 08:19 AM   #32 
  - My problem with this is the logically inconsistent legal situation  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 09:19 AM   #35 
  - Not legalize, decriminalize  shadowknows69   Oct-19-07 09:22 AM   #37 
  - But defintely leagalize that green sticky shit.  shadowknows69   Oct-19-07 09:23 AM   #39 
  - I agree completely  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 09:24 AM   #41 
  - That's still too inconsistent for me  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 09:24 AM   #40 
  - Why should heroin users be sentenced to anything?  High Plains   Oct-19-07 11:46 AM   #50 
     - Sorry, due to a friend of mine dying of the shit  shadowknows69   Oct-19-07 12:19 PM   #52 
  - That's the same argument against condoms in schools.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-19-07 11:02 AM   #45 
     - I'm disappointed you don't see the problem with that analogy  slackmaster   Oct-19-07 01:04 PM   #57 
        - It is if that condom is full of heroin.  stimbox   Oct-19-07 01:12 PM   #58 
           - Sadly, most people don't believe or understand Harm Reduction programs.  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 01:55 PM   #59 
  - This is what I thought they should have been doing all along.  distantearlywarning   Oct-19-07 10:50 AM   #44 
  - This is good.  Cobalt Violet   Oct-19-07 06:05 PM   #62 
     - Yes it is.  JackBeck   Oct-19-07 07:25 PM   #64 
 

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