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26. I always thought the Nazis believed as deeply as anyone ever has.
They seem to have made certain sciences into a theology or a dogma that was all their own, and so they were unique in that sense, whereas the modern American Dominionist types have turned science (or more accurately, "non-science") into a theology all it's own, which is not all that different, really, IMHO.

Somehow, the modern American Dominionists end up believing in torture as a solution to terrorism. All the born-again people that I know, or talk to, advocate torture. Does that make Fallwell and Robertson a little more scary? Should it raise the threat level of these groups a little?

These people learn this stuff from somewhere, and it's fine to pretend that they learn it from watching episodes of the popular TV show 24, but I think it's much more likely that they get it from the church. There seems to be no alternate message about torture being taught at these churches. Why is that, I wonder?
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  -Why the Nazis are Relevant (not why you think) arendt  Oct-18-07 08:42 PM   #0 
  - Wow.  bain_sidhe   Oct-18-07 08:52 PM   #1 
  - I do that, too.  NYC   Oct-18-07 09:37 PM   #10 
  - I think you're correct on all counts.  DemBones DemBones   Oct-18-07 08:57 PM   #2 
  - WOW, The Sequel  ocd liberal   Oct-18-07 09:01 PM   #3 
  - I guess you just had to be there - no, it's not that bad  Fredda Weinberg   Oct-18-07 09:07 PM   #4 
  - Its not that bad until its that bad. One nuke can ruin your whole day.  arendt   Oct-18-07 09:11 PM   #5 
     - Please, don't compare Arab Americans to German Jews ... not yet  Fredda Weinberg   Oct-18-07 09:54 PM   #12 
  - Nice detailed explanation. One thing missing.  djohnson   Oct-18-07 09:11 PM   #6 
  - ? Godless liberals anywhere are the scapegoat for this screaming mob.  arendt   Oct-18-07 09:12 PM   #7 
     - For one, we are their electorate  djohnson   Oct-18-07 09:27 PM   #9 
     - But they're not killing "godless liberals" overseas, just untermenschen.  arendt   Oct-18-07 10:41 PM   #21 
     - OK - but what do God fearing - and loving - Christian liberals do when the nice folks they hang with  papau   Oct-19-07 08:21 PM   #50 
  - 31 Similarities Between Hitler and President Bush  seemslikeadream   Oct-18-07 09:14 PM   #8 
  - Now *there's* a new argument  cuke   Oct-18-07 09:49 PM   #11 
  - Berman is really insightful. He talks about a "typology of heresy"...  arendt   Oct-18-07 10:47 PM   #22 
  - Were the Nazi's a millenarian movement ?  cali   Oct-18-07 09:55 PM   #13 
  - Do you think that Robertson and Falwell types are true believers?  Usrename   Oct-18-07 10:26 PM   #17 
     - I'm not sure about Falwell or Robertson specifically  cali   Oct-18-07 10:37 PM   #18 
     - I always thought the Nazis believed as deeply as anyone ever has.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 12:45 AM   #26 
        - There's zero evidence that the Nazis  cali   Oct-19-07 11:02 AM   #39 
           - Look, a whole bunch of these people are not the whack jobs you think they are.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 11:39 AM   #40 
              - I'll only deal with your last statement  cali   Oct-19-07 12:25 PM   #41 
                 - It's still wrong to decree there is ZERO evidence. There is some.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 02:26 PM   #42 
                    - I have no way of answering that.  cali   Oct-19-07 02:39 PM   #43 
                       - fear and the demonization of the "other"  Usrename   Oct-19-07 04:28 PM   #47 
                          - You're welcome. I'm actually really enjoying this  cali   Oct-19-07 07:55 PM   #49 
                             - Right, we have enough of our own monsters right here in this country.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 10:55 PM   #52 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-18-07 10:39 PM   #20 
  - Well done. recommended.  dicksteele   Oct-18-07 09:57 PM   #14 
  - Symbolism was huge with those guys.  Usrename   Oct-18-07 09:59 PM   #15 
  - Your "POLITICAL STATEMENTS IN AMERICA TODAY" fits O'Reilly's philosophy.  rusty quoin   Oct-18-07 10:07 PM   #16 
  - The fact the man is still on the air, offering nothing but fundie hatred, is proof...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:35 AM   #36 
  - I've been reading almost exclusively about fascism, Hitler, the Nazis, the SS, the Gestapo  GreenTea   Oct-18-07 10:38 PM   #19 
  - Of course they are similar.  txaslftist   Oct-19-07 03:25 PM   #45 
  - and, my candidate for the Board of Directors of it all ...  cosmicdot   Oct-18-07 11:36 PM   #23 
  - DINGDINGDING - we have a winner. "Cheney meets CNP in secret"...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:20 AM   #34 
  - Correction to the koz article  WizardTN   Oct-21-07 10:26 AM   #61 
  - I don't think so.  Nabeshin   Oct-18-07 11:50 PM   #24 
  - They can bite all of us who saw from the beginning, arendt  tom_paine   Oct-18-07 11:52 PM   #25 
  - Kicked and recommended. /nt  artemisia1   Oct-19-07 01:01 AM   #27 
  - again. eom  Karenina   Oct-19-07 04:46 AM   #28 
     - The so called Christian RWing get their inspiration from the  Disturbed   Oct-19-07 05:32 AM   #29 
        - I am saving this encyclopedia of reasons why the OT sucks...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:18 AM   #33 
  - I don't know who you aim to convince, since you've put anyone who disagrees on ignore  jpgray   Oct-19-07 05:47 AM   #30 
  - Today's wingers want to be Nazis. But they're WAY too stupid and cowardly to bring it off.  Perry Logan   Oct-19-07 05:51 AM   #31 
  - You can read a lot from their lingo  mogster   Oct-19-07 07:01 AM   #32 
  - Fundamentalists still have tax-exempt status, even as they preach partisan hatred...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:29 AM   #35 
  - Domionists are pretty freaking scary, even without Nazis to compare them to. nt  eppur_se_muova   Oct-19-07 10:51 AM   #37 
  - morning kick...  nashville_brook   Oct-19-07 10:55 AM   #38 
  - Of course the Nazis are relevant to political discussions.  txaslftist   Oct-19-07 03:21 PM   #44 
  - Afternoon kick. nt  DemBones DemBones   Oct-19-07 03:26 PM   #46 
  - I agree. They can just BITE me too!  truedelphi   Oct-19-07 07:46 PM   #48 
  - THIS is why DU is relevant.  Octafish   Oct-19-07 08:26 PM   #51 
  - Interesting comparisons...  NoGodsNoMasters   Oct-19-07 11:49 PM   #53 
  - Way to go, Atman  Elspeth   Oct-19-07 11:58 PM   #54 
  - thank you, arendt  flordehinojos   Oct-20-07 04:27 AM   #55 
  - Without being overly academic,  Beerboy   Oct-20-07 05:01 AM   #56 
  - There's no nice way to say Nazi  The Wizard   Oct-20-07 01:13 PM   #57 
  - This is the best discussion of the subject I've ever read:  mojowork_n   Oct-20-07 01:47 PM   #58 
  - Nazis=DUALISM=Bush Terra=War on Drugs=Commie Witch Hunts  McCamy Taylor   Oct-20-07 06:32 PM   #59 
  - Dualism vs non dualism, thank you.  Usrename   Oct-21-07 01:18 AM   #60 
  - kick  junofeb   Oct-21-07 07:25 PM   #62 
 

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