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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:37 PM
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18. I'm not sure about Falwell or Robertson specifically
I'm talking generally about American millenarianism. As for scholarly support, check out Boyer's book, which unlike Cohn, is a really entertaining read.

As for why I post on subjects like this one, could be because history's my area of interest, and in particularly the history of millenarianism. I can't think of a single person in the field that believes that the Falwells and Robertsons pose a threat parallel to the Nazis.

Again, I'm not saying that there aren't parallels, and I'm not saying that the Dominionists aren't a threat and aren't deeply disturbing. Anyone familiar with the cases popping up at the Air Force Academy in CO, and officers such as Boykin, can see that right wing religious fundamentalism in the armed forces is a real problem.
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  -Why the Nazis are Relevant (not why you think) arendt  Oct-18-07 08:42 PM   #0 
  - Wow.  bain_sidhe   Oct-18-07 08:52 PM   #1 
  - I do that, too.  NYC   Oct-18-07 09:37 PM   #10 
  - I think you're correct on all counts.  DemBones DemBones   Oct-18-07 08:57 PM   #2 
  - WOW, The Sequel  ocd liberal   Oct-18-07 09:01 PM   #3 
  - I guess you just had to be there - no, it's not that bad  Fredda Weinberg   Oct-18-07 09:07 PM   #4 
  - Its not that bad until its that bad. One nuke can ruin your whole day.  arendt   Oct-18-07 09:11 PM   #5 
     - Please, don't compare Arab Americans to German Jews ... not yet  Fredda Weinberg   Oct-18-07 09:54 PM   #12 
  - Nice detailed explanation. One thing missing.  djohnson   Oct-18-07 09:11 PM   #6 
  - ? Godless liberals anywhere are the scapegoat for this screaming mob.  arendt   Oct-18-07 09:12 PM   #7 
     - For one, we are their electorate  djohnson   Oct-18-07 09:27 PM   #9 
     - But they're not killing "godless liberals" overseas, just untermenschen.  arendt   Oct-18-07 10:41 PM   #21 
     - OK - but what do God fearing - and loving - Christian liberals do when the nice folks they hang with  papau   Oct-19-07 08:21 PM   #50 
  - 31 Similarities Between Hitler and President Bush  seemslikeadream   Oct-18-07 09:14 PM   #8 
  - Now *there's* a new argument  cuke   Oct-18-07 09:49 PM   #11 
  - Berman is really insightful. He talks about a "typology of heresy"...  arendt   Oct-18-07 10:47 PM   #22 
  - Were the Nazi's a millenarian movement ?  cali   Oct-18-07 09:55 PM   #13 
  - Do you think that Robertson and Falwell types are true believers?  Usrename   Oct-18-07 10:26 PM   #17 
     - I'm not sure about Falwell or Robertson specifically  cali   Oct-18-07 10:37 PM   #18 
     - I always thought the Nazis believed as deeply as anyone ever has.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 12:45 AM   #26 
        - There's zero evidence that the Nazis  cali   Oct-19-07 11:02 AM   #39 
           - Look, a whole bunch of these people are not the whack jobs you think they are.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 11:39 AM   #40 
              - I'll only deal with your last statement  cali   Oct-19-07 12:25 PM   #41 
                 - It's still wrong to decree there is ZERO evidence. There is some.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 02:26 PM   #42 
                    - I have no way of answering that.  cali   Oct-19-07 02:39 PM   #43 
                       - fear and the demonization of the "other"  Usrename   Oct-19-07 04:28 PM   #47 
                          - You're welcome. I'm actually really enjoying this  cali   Oct-19-07 07:55 PM   #49 
                             - Right, we have enough of our own monsters right here in this country.  Usrename   Oct-19-07 10:55 PM   #52 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-18-07 10:39 PM   #20 
  - Well done. recommended.  dicksteele   Oct-18-07 09:57 PM   #14 
  - Symbolism was huge with those guys.  Usrename   Oct-18-07 09:59 PM   #15 
  - Your "POLITICAL STATEMENTS IN AMERICA TODAY" fits O'Reilly's philosophy.  rusty quoin   Oct-18-07 10:07 PM   #16 
  - The fact the man is still on the air, offering nothing but fundie hatred, is proof...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:35 AM   #36 
  - I've been reading almost exclusively about fascism, Hitler, the Nazis, the SS, the Gestapo  GreenTea   Oct-18-07 10:38 PM   #19 
  - Of course they are similar.  txaslftist   Oct-19-07 03:25 PM   #45 
  - and, my candidate for the Board of Directors of it all ...  cosmicdot   Oct-18-07 11:36 PM   #23 
  - DINGDINGDING - we have a winner. "Cheney meets CNP in secret"...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:20 AM   #34 
  - Correction to the koz article  WizardTN   Oct-21-07 10:26 AM   #61 
  - I don't think so.  Nabeshin   Oct-18-07 11:50 PM   #24 
  - They can bite all of us who saw from the beginning, arendt  tom_paine   Oct-18-07 11:52 PM   #25 
  - Kicked and recommended. /nt  artemisia1   Oct-19-07 01:01 AM   #27 
  - again. eom  Karenina   Oct-19-07 04:46 AM   #28 
     - The so called Christian RWing get their inspiration from the  Disturbed   Oct-19-07 05:32 AM   #29 
        - I am saving this encyclopedia of reasons why the OT sucks...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:18 AM   #33 
  - I don't know who you aim to convince, since you've put anyone who disagrees on ignore  jpgray   Oct-19-07 05:47 AM   #30 
  - Today's wingers want to be Nazis. But they're WAY too stupid and cowardly to bring it off.  Perry Logan   Oct-19-07 05:51 AM   #31 
  - You can read a lot from their lingo  mogster   Oct-19-07 07:01 AM   #32 
  - Fundamentalists still have tax-exempt status, even as they preach partisan hatred...  arendt   Oct-19-07 07:29 AM   #35 
  - Domionists are pretty freaking scary, even without Nazis to compare them to. nt  eppur_se_muova   Oct-19-07 10:51 AM   #37 
  - morning kick...  nashville_brook   Oct-19-07 10:55 AM   #38 
  - Of course the Nazis are relevant to political discussions.  txaslftist   Oct-19-07 03:21 PM   #44 
  - Afternoon kick. nt  DemBones DemBones   Oct-19-07 03:26 PM   #46 
  - I agree. They can just BITE me too!  truedelphi   Oct-19-07 07:46 PM   #48 
  - THIS is why DU is relevant.  Octafish   Oct-19-07 08:26 PM   #51 
  - Interesting comparisons...  NoGodsNoMasters   Oct-19-07 11:49 PM   #53 
  - Way to go, Atman  Elspeth   Oct-19-07 11:58 PM   #54 
  - thank you, arendt  flordehinojos   Oct-20-07 04:27 AM   #55 
  - Without being overly academic,  Beerboy   Oct-20-07 05:01 AM   #56 
  - There's no nice way to say Nazi  The Wizard   Oct-20-07 01:13 PM   #57 
  - This is the best discussion of the subject I've ever read:  mojowork_n   Oct-20-07 01:47 PM   #58 
  - Nazis=DUALISM=Bush Terra=War on Drugs=Commie Witch Hunts  McCamy Taylor   Oct-20-07 06:32 PM   #59 
  - Dualism vs non dualism, thank you.  Usrename   Oct-21-07 01:18 AM   #60 
  - kick  junofeb   Oct-21-07 07:25 PM   #62 

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