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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:31 PM
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6. Of course
And this utopia leads to errors in judgement

But that is what doctrinaire though leads to

But that is also why they are so authoritarian in nature and cannot see the forest for the trees, as it were

I mean Somalia is a paradise of privatized everything.
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  -Neo Liberalism nadinbrzezinski  Oct-18-07 01:19 PM   #0 
  - there is recent book out: The short history of Neoliberalism-----that I need to read also  rodeodance   Oct-18-07 01:24 PM   #1 
  - One to place on my readying list  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:24 PM   #2 
  - A neolib is a neocon in a new suit.  baldguy   Oct-18-07 01:26 PM   #3 
  - In order of aperance philosophically  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:29 PM   #5 
     - The word needs to be brought out if it is to be fought.  mmonk   Oct-18-07 10:26 PM   #69 
  - I've found both Neo-Liberals, and Neo-Cons to be utopians of the worse kind.  Solon   Oct-18-07 01:27 PM   #4 
  - Of course  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:31 PM   #6 
  - I think the big problem is that they mistakenly assume that free trade is the removal of barriers...  Solon   Oct-18-07 01:39 PM   #12 
     - Well I hate to quote Reagan, but there is no such thing as a free lunch  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:50 PM   #18 
        - That's true, they also don't account for the "invisible" form of oppression...  Solon   Oct-18-07 02:01 PM   #24 
           - SHHH... you are bringing out what most folks in the US  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:06 PM   #27 
              - You bring up an even more extreme example, "slave" isn't even an exaggeration...  Solon   Oct-18-07 02:22 PM   #36 
              - That is why I used the term  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:25 PM   #38 
                 - Indentured Servitude probably would be a more accurate term...  Solon   Oct-18-07 02:37 PM   #46 
                    - True... and the practices have been around  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:39 PM   #47 
              - Also the root of the US Attorney firings...  hootinholler   Oct-18-07 03:19 PM   #48 
  - Utopians are always dangerous. That should become a maxim. It should  applegrove   Oct-18-07 05:41 PM   #54 
  - After reading this, I now believe I have an uncle who is a "neo-liberal"  KansDem   Oct-18-07 01:31 PM   #7 
  - Or he could be one type of Libertarian that draws  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:33 PM   #8 
  - That might explain it.  KansDem   Oct-18-07 02:05 PM   #26 
     - Well the retired military  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:09 PM   #29 
  - Actually, your uncle would appear to be a "classic liberal" according  pampango   Oct-18-07 02:11 PM   #30 
     - You are correct  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:14 PM   #32 
  - You might consider  cali   Oct-18-07 01:34 PM   #9 
  - Posting again to thread where the OP has you on ignore.  Swamp Rat   Oct-18-07 01:39 PM   #13 
  - What does that have to do with anything?  cali   Oct-18-07 01:42 PM   #14 
  - Since you continue to mock my friends, I will respond any damn time I please.  Swamp Rat   Oct-18-07 09:13 PM   #59 
  - Cali is free to post  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:52 PM   #19 
  - Passive-aggressive behavior is does not fly with me, especially when it is disruptive.  Swamp Rat   Oct-18-07 09:28 PM   #60 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-18-07 09:44 PM   #62 
     - I will note  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 10:13 PM   #68 
  - How do you know if someone has you on ignore? n/t  pampango   Oct-18-07 01:54 PM   #20 
     - I've told her  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:55 PM   #21 
  - You are correct, in a sense, I also don't believe the DLC wants to be authoritarian...  Solon   Oct-18-07 01:45 PM   #15 
     - And listeing to the leaders of the movement, currently such as  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:48 PM   #17 
     - I agree And trade is an excellent example.  cali   Oct-18-07 01:56 PM   #22 
        - Look at their policies on trade...  Solon   Oct-18-07 02:17 PM   #33 
           - NAFTA has many side agreements that have never  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:21 PM   #35 
           - I know NAFTA itself limited free movement to certain professions...  Solon   Oct-18-07 02:27 PM   #40 
              - Bingo  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:30 PM   #42 
           - That's a really good point about democratic accountability.  pampango   Oct-18-07 02:36 PM   #45 
  - A neo-lib is a neo-con who says he "regrets" the civilian casualties.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-18-07 01:35 PM   #10 
  - From link  T.Ruth2power   Oct-18-07 01:37 PM   #11 
  - Oh it is part and parcel of it  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 01:46 PM   #16 
  - Neo=Fascist no matter what word comes after n/t  iamthebandfanman   Oct-18-07 02:00 PM   #23 
  - It is marketing partly  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:03 PM   #25 
  - yup and heres why  iamthebandfanman   Oct-18-07 02:09 PM   #28 
     - Well fascism was a new marketing ploy too  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:13 PM   #31 
  - neo-hippies?  mdmc   Oct-18-07 10:34 PM   #70 
  - Third way=triangulation  Generator   Oct-18-07 02:19 PM   #34 
  - Aristotle also believed in that superstitious essentialism horse shit.  porphyrian   Oct-18-07 02:23 PM   #37 
  - Yes he did, but it is critical to track where ideas come from  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:26 PM   #39 
     - Sure. I'm responding to those applying his antiquated beliefs to contemporary practice. - n/t  porphyrian   Oct-18-07 02:30 PM   #41 
  - Robert F Kennedy Jr said it best.  GETPLANING   Oct-18-07 02:34 PM   #43 
  - WOW he is perceptive as usual  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 02:35 PM   #44 
  - This is why the US government is setup as a republic, rather than a pure democracy....  AntiFascist   Oct-18-07 03:21 PM   #49 
  - Exactly and why I refered to Aristotle  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 03:22 PM   #50 
  - Kick for the afternoon crowd  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 05:23 PM   #51 
  - Hey Nadin, Tom Hartmann was recommending a book about neoliberalism on his show yesterday  Elspeth   Oct-18-07 05:33 PM   #52 
     - We can always look for it on a podcast  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 05:36 PM   #53 
        - Where are you located Nadin?  Elspeth   Oct-18-07 09:39 PM   #61 
           - San Diego  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 09:45 PM   #63 
              - Yeah. That would be fun.  Elspeth   Oct-18-07 09:57 PM   #66 
                 - Well we went to the demonstrations  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 10:12 PM   #67 
                    - I'm almost never home, so an iPod or MP3 player for AAR seems right  Elspeth   Oct-19-07 10:41 AM   #72 
  - I thought the third way was between neo-liberalism and socialism? Am I misinformed?  applegrove   Oct-18-07 05:43 PM   #55 
  - It is centrism you are right, according to the links on wiki  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 05:45 PM   #56 
     - I don't like Blair but I liked the Clintons. Many people made it into the  applegrove   Oct-18-07 05:46 PM   #57 
        - I liked him as well, even if he was the best  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 05:49 PM   #58 
  - Thank you for this important information. There seems to be several folks here who pooh pooh this  mod mom   Oct-18-07 09:53 PM   #64 
  - Exactly and those who poopooh it  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-18-07 09:57 PM   #65 
  - K&R n/t  LWolf   Oct-18-07 10:34 PM   #71 
  - Confused About one Comment  Hidden Stillness   Oct-20-07 11:00 AM   #73 
 

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