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Wed Oct-17-07 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 107. And Let's Not Forget: "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society" |
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God, how many times have I seen the gun obsessives use that odious, utterly untrue little mantra over the years, in this and other forums, on bumperstickers on the backs of their trucks, in hyper-macho braying at beer joints and hunting camps.
The notion that gun activists aren't positively horny to have more people armed in this country is disproven every day by the content of our very own Gun Dungeon.
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| -Question for lurking freepers, "gun nuts" and regular DUers alike; re; Iran's Nukes |
Atman |
Oct-16-07 04:11 PM |
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Doesn't every home in Iraq have an AK-47? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 04:15 PM |
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But,..but...They're MUSLIMS !!!!!!!!!!! |
MNDemNY |
Oct-16-07 04:15 PM |
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Interesting connection |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Oct-16-07 04:15 PM |
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Ah - but you see, we're on the top of the heap in terms of armaments. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Oct-16-07 04:16 PM |
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I think that is a great big Straw Man |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 04:17 PM |
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It is a common wingnut argument. It was a popular NRA theme after the VTECH shooting. NT |
MADem |
Oct-16-07 04:20 PM |
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Then surely you can cite at least one instance of someone in the NRA saying EVERYONE should be armed |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:02 PM |
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Why should I "bring it on?" That's not the argument being made. |
MADem |
Oct-16-07 05:13 PM |
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Go back and read the OP because you obviously didn't read it right the first time |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:15 PM |
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Oct-16-07 05:53 PM |
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A fellow named John Lott wrote a book......... |
PaDem |
Oct-16-07 08:53 PM |
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The catchy title is not the whole content of that book |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 08:01 AM |
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So should his supporters. |
blondeatlast |
Oct-17-07 05:39 PM |
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Yes, you are "just sayin'" |
slackmaster |
Oct-18-07 08:19 AM |
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Are you seriously suggesting the NRA has not said guns keep America safe? |
Toots |
Oct-17-07 08:29 AM |
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I am not aware of the NRA ever arguing for arming everyone - Got a cite? |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 09:24 AM |
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. |
benEzra |
Oct-17-07 12:17 PM |
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"Assault weapon" = small-caliber non-automatic rifle with a protruding handgrip or modern styling... |
benEzra |
Oct-17-07 12:20 PM |
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really? |
unpossibles |
Oct-16-07 04:26 PM |
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If you heard it a lot then you shouldn't have much problem finding a link to support it |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:03 PM |
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You seem to be doing just fine. |
Atman |
Oct-16-07 05:17 PM |
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Appeals to scorn and ridicule are a logical fallacies |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:19 PM |
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Oct-16-07 05:20 PM |
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You have just intentionally misrepresented what I said AND indulged in a personal attack |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:21 PM |
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No, I did not. |
Atman |
Oct-16-07 05:23 PM |
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You're spinning madly because you are unable to support what you wrote |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:23 PM |
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ok, not technically calling for "arming everyone" |
unpossibles |
Oct-17-07 08:56 AM |
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Some people have speculated that the killer MIGHT have been stopped |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 09:26 AM |
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You're kidding, right? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 04:27 PM |
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Yes, in fact I have read the book and it's obvious you haven't |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:04 PM |
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The book doesn't suggest that Armed citizens stop crimes? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 05:45 PM |
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The book does not call for arming everyone |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 06:46 PM |
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Arming more folks doesn't drop crime? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 06:48 PM |
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Please read the book rather than trying to extrapolate the title into the whole message |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 06:49 PM |
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It doesn't even suggest this? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 06:50 PM |
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You would be well served to read the book |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 06:53 PM |
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Who's arguing points? |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 07:02 PM |
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What's the question again? |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 07:03 PM |
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Fair enough. |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 07:10 PM |
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Oct-16-07 04:47 PM |
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google " if everyone had guns" seriously. I just did... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Oct-16-07 08:01 PM |
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Appeal to Google Hit Count Fallacy |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 08:25 AM |
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There was plenty on the first page to support the poster's argument |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Oct-17-07 08:10 PM |
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I just tried it and you are completely wrong |
slackmaster |
Oct-18-07 08:18 AM |
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I think you have not been paying attention. |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-16-07 10:12 PM |
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Does not support the premise stated in the OP |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 08:24 AM |
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I've heard that said many times |
BushOut06 |
Oct-17-07 10:53 AM |
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No, Slacky says no one has ever said it. |
Atman |
Oct-17-07 10:57 AM |
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He asked you to give ONE instance of someone saying that EVERYONE should be armed. You failed. |
piedmont |
Oct-17-07 01:37 PM |
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And Let's Not Forget: "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society" |
Paladin |
Oct-17-07 08:25 PM |
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Isn't that EXACTLY what supposedly kept the Cold War "cold"? |
dicksteele |
Oct-16-07 04:18 PM |
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There are some folks, even some I see here, that if they had a gun, they'd fucking shoot anyone |
MADem |
Oct-16-07 04:19 PM |
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No, see, only INDIVIDUALS should have nuclear weapons. |
impeachdubya |
Oct-16-07 04:20 PM |
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I think you're missing the point |
unpossibles |
Oct-16-07 04:27 PM |
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Nice try atman. |
BellaB |
Oct-16-07 04:33 PM |
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You are capable of discerning a difference in an "arm"? |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Oct-16-07 04:36 PM |
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excuse me!?! |
BellaB |
Oct-16-07 04:46 PM |
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You made a point that had little to do with the original post. |
Atman |
Oct-16-07 04:55 PM |
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I'm glad you agree |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Oct-16-07 05:25 PM |
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Hello Sweetie....... |
Megahurtz |
Oct-16-07 07:57 PM |
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Oct-16-07 04:52 PM |
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when you are dead, will you care that it was a handgun or a nuke? |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Oct-16-07 08:09 PM |
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Uh...freedom isn't free! Why do you hate America? - n/t |
porphyrian |
Oct-16-07 05:05 PM |
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nobody wants crazy people to have guns, i.e., V Tech... |
India3 |
Oct-16-07 05:13 PM |
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India3 gets it |
slackmaster |
Oct-16-07 05:16 PM |
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Now that you mention it, |
gatorboy |
Oct-16-07 06:01 PM |
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Think harder... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Oct-16-07 08:14 PM |
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I'm talking about religious insanity. |
India3 |
Oct-17-07 09:45 AM |
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sorry, I took your words literally |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Oct-17-07 08:14 PM |
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It is called the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction. |
The Stranger |
Oct-16-07 05:13 PM |
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The difference is fairly obvious. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-16-07 05:24 PM |
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Sort of like, "A nuclear armed planet is a polite planet", right? I love it! Great point! |
scarletwoman |
Oct-16-07 07:10 PM |
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when was the last time nuclear armed state went to war against another nuclear armed state? |
SergeyDovlatov |
Oct-17-07 12:42 AM |
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when was the last time nuclear armed state went to war against another nuclear armed state? |
SergeyDovlatov |
Oct-17-07 12:42 AM |
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Actually, the great physicist, Niels Bohr, proposed just that |
Venus Dog |
Oct-16-07 07:19 PM |
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Shhhhhh. Stop thinking logically. Here's some TV. |
Blashyrkh |
Oct-16-07 07:25 PM |
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I'm an agnostic on whether or not Iran |
Mike03 |
Oct-16-07 07:31 PM |
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Interesting viewpoint, Mike |
mvccd1000 |
Oct-17-07 03:13 AM |
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Well, if you decide to get one and need advice... |
krispos42 |
Oct-17-07 11:31 AM |
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Well I Do Certainly Believe That |
Megahurtz |
Oct-16-07 07:43 PM |
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"Arming everyone" is not really about arming everyone. |
ManiacJoe |
Oct-16-07 08:09 PM |
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Oh, the irony! |
Atman |
Oct-16-07 08:30 PM |
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so the magic question then is |
unpossibles |
Oct-16-07 08:50 PM |
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Ultimately those who have the power decide who is the "good guy" |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 08:07 AM |
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true |
unpossibles |
Oct-17-07 08:32 AM |
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Unfortunately, because of our irresponsiblity and desire for unfettered power |
YankmeCrankme |
Oct-17-07 11:09 AM |
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I agree with you |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 11:56 AM |
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The U.S. is just pissed at every nation that wont go along with... |
superkia |
Oct-16-07 09:22 PM |
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Oct-16-07 10:38 PM |
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Actually this has been argued academically... |
whoneedstickets |
Oct-16-07 10:42 PM |
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Not even the NRA would argue that mentally challenged people should have guns. |
mvccd1000 |
Oct-17-07 03:19 AM |
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I don't believe any nutjob should have access to guns or nuclear weapons... |
cynatnite |
Oct-17-07 03:20 AM |
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Every nation SHOULD have nuclear weapons. |
MLFerrell |
Oct-17-07 08:39 AM |
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The problem I see with that is the possibility that non-government players will steal one |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 08:49 AM |
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Both of those possibilities already exist, yet have not come to pass. |
MLFerrell |
Oct-17-07 08:59 AM |
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I'm not convinced the Soviet arsenal has been properly accounted for |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 09:01 AM |
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shooting from the hip here |
madokie |
Oct-17-07 08:44 AM |
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You're making a lot of sense, too much for our elected leaders |
YankmeCrankme |
Oct-17-07 11:14 AM |
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exactly |
iamthebandfanman |
Oct-17-07 09:54 AM |
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Nobody having nukes is not a realistic possibility now |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 10:48 AM |
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It does work to a point. |
Cleita |
Oct-17-07 11:02 AM |
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We're not allowed to even think about it, according to Slacky. |
Atman |
Oct-17-07 11:05 AM |
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You and everybody else have the option of not responding to me |
slackmaster |
Oct-17-07 12:27 PM |
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Small arms aren't nuclear weapons... |
benEzra |
Oct-17-07 12:12 PM |
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Still engaging in personal attacks. You've embarassed yourself pretty well with this thread. |
piedmont |
Oct-17-07 02:09 PM |
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Oct-17-07 02:22 PM |
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What an enlightening thread. Thanks Peidmont and Slacky. |
Atman |
Oct-17-07 04:48 PM |
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Look, I saw the point of your OP and thought it was interesting. |
Lautremont |
Oct-17-07 05:39 PM |
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He can't do it because nobody in their right mind thinks everyone should be armed |
slackmaster |
Oct-18-07 08:42 AM |
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You got it...Pointing out the Hypocracy...why shouldn't Everyone Have Nukes if |
KoKo01 |
Oct-17-07 05:33 PM |
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In the Gungeon we have a standard term for this silly argument |
slackmaster |
Oct-18-07 08:28 AM |
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Locking |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-18-07 09:04 AM |
#112 |
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