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Mon Oct-15-07 08:27 AM
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But I do know some CEO's....I'm not a CEO myself though.
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| -Newsweek: Dems Are the New Republicans |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 07:34 AM |
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Wow, no takers yet... It's getting "chilly" in here. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 07:43 AM |
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Our party is dying... |
TwoSparkles |
Oct-15-07 07:46 AM |
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very well said TS |
leftchick |
Oct-15-07 07:51 AM |
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No, our party is ALIVE and our party is GROWING |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 07:55 AM |
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Well, at least you're honest, and true to the ideals of the organization you support |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 08:02 AM |
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We |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:08 AM |
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Well, no. |
cali |
Oct-15-07 08:42 AM |
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After these seven years I find it astonishing |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:57 AM |
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Generally, they're not young people. |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:03 AM |
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I'm 30....I know most of them are older than I am |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:11 AM |
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What in the world would you do if you didn't have us boomers to bash? |
bobbolink |
Oct-15-07 12:29 PM |
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What in the world would you do if you didn't have us DLCer's to bash? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 01:04 PM |
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Rejoice. |
bobbolink |
Oct-15-07 07:06 PM |
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In the '60s we had the Great Society |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-15-07 11:30 PM |
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We've learned . . . that there isn't ENOUGH of a difference . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:03 PM |
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"We want a Democrat in the White House" |
AngryOldDem |
Oct-15-07 09:06 AM |
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I have no problem telling the difference |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:17 AM |
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If YOU can't tell the difference, then that's your problem and I'm sorry for you n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:19 AM |
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If you can't tell the difference you might be better off not voting at all. |
mondo joe |
Oct-15-07 10:05 AM |
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You'd think seven years of George W. Bush would teach these people... |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-15-07 10:32 AM |
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Not Al Gore, no. |
Clark2008 |
Oct-15-07 11:31 AM |
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Yup, win one for Big Business then |
Skidmore |
Oct-15-07 08:12 AM |
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perhaps the poster |
leftchick |
Oct-15-07 08:15 AM |
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I'm not a CEO |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:27 AM |
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The DLC democrat, which Clinton and others are part of |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 12:47 PM |
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Anti-corporatism? Then you're anti-DLC . . ... . .. . . . . .. . . .!!!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:13 PM |
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What is |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:23 AM |
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You don't see people being screwed? |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 08:27 AM |
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Take it to the people. One million $10 contributions is a lot of money. |
Skidmore |
Oct-15-07 08:27 AM |
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You need more than one million $10 contributions |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:44 AM |
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And, THAT is the crux of the problem in a nutshell! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 08:49 AM |
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So ONLY Dennis Kucinich is a "real" Democrat? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:53 AM |
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Maybe I should have said, "old-time" Democrat... |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 08:56 AM |
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Okay that's cool |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:03 AM |
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"Old time democrats" |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:06 AM |
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Mario Cuomo is a good example. n/t |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 09:44 AM |
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Psssst. |
Le Taz Hot |
Oct-15-07 09:46 AM |
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pssst. |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:54 AM |
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Perhaps it was this line: |
Le Taz Hot |
Oct-15-07 10:14 AM |
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You know I was not talking about "Dixiecrats"... n/t |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 09:52 AM |
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Tell me Social Security would pass today |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 12:50 PM |
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With this sorry-ass lot we have elected NOW? |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 02:53 PM |
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Well the problem we have is that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 03:26 PM |
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What's the point of asking that? |
cali |
Oct-15-07 03:33 PM |
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The last breakdown I heard on public financing was about $6 per person ---- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:14 PM |
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Actually, it's $10 million, which isn't significant Presidential money. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-15-07 10:33 AM |
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I really don't like this view on Big Business |
Indenturedebtor |
Oct-15-07 09:11 AM |
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You can support business or you can support labor. You cannot |
Marr |
Oct-15-07 09:54 AM |
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Utter nonsense |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:04 AM |
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That's not true, labor can exist just fine without big business around... |
Solon |
Oct-15-07 10:14 AM |
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Big Business gets it's |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:18 AM |
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EmployEES, big business IS the employers, don't confuse them, please. |
Solon |
Oct-15-07 10:27 AM |
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How can |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:33 AM |
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Don't tell me you never heard of co-ops? |
Solon |
Oct-15-07 10:37 AM |
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Would you like to say something about a "rising tide lifting all boats"? |
Marr |
Oct-15-07 11:21 AM |
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Labor unions are democractic |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 12:53 PM |
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Interesting coin . . . one side 400X the worth of the other -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:09 PM |
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Working in tandem is one thing |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 11:34 AM |
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Corporations shouldn't have more say in our government |
Mythsaje |
Oct-15-07 11:58 AM |
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The crux of the problem now is that corporations are STRONGER than |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:10 PM |
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I totally agree with this! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 04:44 PM |
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I can't say I agree. |
cali |
Oct-15-07 08:33 AM |
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The irony is that |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:40 AM |
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Well, his voting record is certainly DLC. |
Clark2008 |
Oct-15-07 11:47 AM |
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And I think you're wrong. |
Mythsaje |
Oct-15-07 12:02 PM |
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The party you've hijacked is alive, albeit parasitized. |
Tesha |
Oct-15-07 09:05 AM |
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How can we "hijack" our OWN party? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:26 AM |
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If they were standing in front of me, I'd say it to their faces. |
Tesha |
Oct-15-07 09:57 AM |
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No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:01 AM |
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Heck, apologies for the triple post....hopefully a Moderator will delete posts # 65 and # 66 |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:08 AM |
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You got anybody particularly in mind? 'Cause I voted for Gore and Kerry. (NT) |
Tesha |
Oct-15-07 10:09 AM |
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I wasn't specifically meaning you though was I? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:15 AM |
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No, you're still responsible. Kerry would *NEVER* have been my choice as the candidate. |
Tesha |
Oct-15-07 10:53 AM |
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Kerry wasn't my choice either, but I voted for him |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 01:16 PM |
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Kerry was bottom of the heap -- and Howard Dean was leading -- Oops .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:11 PM |
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LOL, you are seriously deficient in history |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 11:52 AM |
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Blaming it on Nader lets peaople avoid facing the sad fact that... |
Tesha |
Oct-15-07 01:22 PM |
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I agree -- |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 04:49 PM |
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I don't know how many times this has to be repeated to sink in |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 01:07 PM |
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No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:01 AM |
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I'm not a naderite |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-15-07 01:22 PM |
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Joy in "scapegoating" prevents one opening one's mind to reality, evidently -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:22 PM |
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No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:01 AM |
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Where is your evidence for "conspiracy' between Nader/Greens and Scalia -- ???? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:23 PM |
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That's the third time you've repeated the same |
Mythsaje |
Oct-15-07 10:56 PM |
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Make no mistake, its not their party. It still belongs to Democrats |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 12:22 PM |
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Gee, how can you say that it's progress |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 11:23 AM |
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Great point! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 11:34 AM |
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The DLC is nothing but corporate whores |
alarimer |
Oct-15-07 12:04 PM |
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Yes, you're party - the GOP - is winning |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 12:17 PM |
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My party is the Democratic Party |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 01:12 PM |
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I used to be a member of DLC |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 02:51 PM |
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It once worked for the Democratic Party? |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 03:01 PM |
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I'll take money and winning. Policy making ability when out of power = zilch. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-15-07 08:15 AM |
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Lovely. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 08:19 AM |
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We have no legislative agenda at all as the minority party |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-15-07 08:30 AM |
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We are no longer the "Minority" Party. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 09:02 AM |
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If you got rid of the DLC and the Blue Dogs then |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:15 AM |
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Not necessarily so |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 11:57 AM |
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This is just the "There'll be no one left in the Party..." argument. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 12:28 PM |
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bwahaha |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:19 AM |
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With how partisan things are now, you either need the White House or 2/3's in Congress to do policy |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-15-07 10:25 AM |
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To get solid and concrete results on our legislative agenda we |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:49 AM |
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Let see, yeah, Bill Clinton was a real people's president |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 12:01 PM |
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Yes he was, President Bill Clinton was an excellant President |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 01:00 PM |
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NAFTA, DOMA, Don't Ask / Don't Tell, The Welfare Reform Act, |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 04:39 PM |
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Wow, talk about a biased view of the world |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 04:50 PM |
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And you don't see why many Americans can't see the difference |
Mythsaje |
Oct-15-07 11:16 PM |
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What legislative agenda when the President can veto with no override possible? |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-15-07 10:29 AM |
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Yep, it's just plain common sense and pragmatics isn't it? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 08:26 AM |
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No thanks, not if its GOP |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 12:20 PM |
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Awesome post! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 09:12 AM |
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I don't know where you live |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:22 AM |
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Sadly I agree with you |
Lorien |
Oct-15-07 09:29 AM |
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Was it a mistake to abandon working people and economic fairness for IDENTITY POLITICS? |
Romulox |
Oct-15-07 09:35 AM |
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Funny thing about political parties - the people in them decide what they are. |
mondo joe |
Oct-15-07 10:04 AM |
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I've been around and around on this issue so many times here... |
warren pease |
Oct-15-07 10:57 AM |
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"here’s the down-and-dirty: the Democrats are utterly complicit"!!!! |
leftchick |
Oct-15-07 11:16 AM |
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Awesome post! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 11:32 AM |
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Cause of death: DLC cancer |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Oct-15-07 10:58 AM |
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Thanks! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 11:31 AM |
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The deathly part of this is... most USians don't realize it. |
bobbolink |
Oct-15-07 12:00 PM |
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Establishment Candidate Translates Into |
Me. |
Oct-15-07 08:24 AM |
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Big business knows that the neocon label is bankrupt |
Elspeth |
Oct-15-07 09:05 AM |
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The economy and the stock market have been historically better under Dem presidents |
skipos |
Oct-15-07 09:16 AM |
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Many newer Democrats are aisle jumpers who want to be on the winning team |
Romulox |
Oct-15-07 09:21 AM |
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Much Of What You Say Is True |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-15-07 09:31 AM |
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Dad's an alchoholic, but at least he's *somewhat* fun to be around when he is drunk |
Romulox |
Oct-15-07 09:36 AM |
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How Do We Address The Real Problem |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-15-07 09:51 AM |
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The fight analogy is fatally flawed...politics should be collaborative and consensus based |
Romulox |
Oct-15-07 09:56 AM |
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"War Is The Continuation Of Politics By Other Means" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-15-07 10:03 AM |
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The dominant ideology in the modern Democratic party is PREDICATED on adopting right-wing economics |
Romulox |
Oct-15-07 10:08 AM |
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They're only getting money - not winning |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 12:24 PM |
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Absolutely correct! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 12:30 PM |
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I Don't Understand |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-15-07 09:23 AM |
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seconded. |
lionesspriyanka |
Oct-15-07 09:23 AM |
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Exactly correct |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 09:34 AM |
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Hey,DSB |
cali |
Oct-15-07 09:40 AM |
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That's crap, Cali... |
Mythsaje |
Oct-15-07 11:21 PM |
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Hey, TC -- take a look at this article I posted in the Editorials forum |
antigop |
Oct-15-07 09:53 AM |
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Nail hit on the head with that one, my friend! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 10:49 AM |
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A choice between neo-cons or neo-libs. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-15-07 09:53 AM |
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We call this "Sophie's Choice" in my house.... |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 10:50 AM |
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Sellout bastards. We're so screwed! |
Joanne98 |
Oct-15-07 09:54 AM |
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Support the PDA and DFA |
bonito |
Oct-15-07 10:26 AM |
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Huh? AIPAC has NOTHING to do with this |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-15-07 10:30 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-15-07 10:41 AM |
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AIPAC is simply MIIC . . . Nixon armed right-wing fundamentalist Israel . . . and buried . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 02:59 PM |
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Heres some info |
bonito |
Oct-15-07 10:54 AM |
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I would say these two excerpts illustrate the point: |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 11:26 AM |
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I will help you out |
leftchick |
Oct-15-07 11:19 AM |
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Not many seem to grasp this concept. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 11:21 AM |
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We are trying to "purge" Republicans from the Democratic Party ---- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 02:56 PM |
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If people can't wrap their minds around any other difference |
tblue37 |
Oct-15-07 10:34 AM |
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So you're willing to throw away thousands of innocent lives down the hole of an illegal, immoral war |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 12:09 PM |
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Straw man argument. I didn't say that at all. I just said that in order to |
tblue37 |
Oct-15-07 12:12 PM |
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No, you didn't state it so succinctly, |
MadHound |
Oct-15-07 12:19 PM |
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So you're willing to throw away 1000s of innocent women by a ban on abortion? |
RainDog |
Oct-15-07 05:34 PM |
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raaaa raaaa raaaaa sis boom bah |
fenriswolf |
Oct-15-07 12:59 PM |
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K&R |
DeepModem Mom |
Oct-15-07 11:49 AM |
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DC Dems walk, talk and act like GOP |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 12:14 PM |
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I agree. Good point! n/t |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 12:25 PM |
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This is nothing more a way to distract the voter from realizing just how ignorant it is to vote repu |
AuntPatsy |
Oct-15-07 12:26 PM |
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afternoon kick (n/t) |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 12:40 PM |
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So Republicans are finally realizing that "trickle down economics" doesn't work in the long term? |
mzmolly |
Oct-15-07 12:49 PM |
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Sometimes it's hard to tell. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 01:10 PM |
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..... |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 03:08 PM |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 04:09 PM |
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A view from the gutter |
RainDog |
Oct-15-07 01:34 PM |
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DLC doesn't attract voters |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 02:53 PM |
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But, they attract Corporations. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 02:55 PM |
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Real Dems believe in getting votes, making progress |
OzarkDem |
Oct-15-07 03:13 PM |
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Yup, those are the ones I remember! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 04:40 PM |
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were you guys around during the Roosevelt administration? |
RainDog |
Oct-15-07 05:20 PM |
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yes, democrats aren't the DLC |
RainDog |
Oct-15-07 05:06 PM |
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Rant on anytime |
bonito |
Oct-15-07 08:29 PM |
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Kucinich: "DLC are the same as neo-con Republicans" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 02:54 PM |
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Do you agree with that, or disagree? |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 02:56 PM |
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A G R E E with Kucinich . . . !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-15-07 03:28 PM |
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Thought so! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 03:43 PM |
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Excellent Article! |
leftchick |
Oct-15-07 05:25 PM |
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You are very welcome! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-15-07 05:40 PM |
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Just finished reading the link |
bonito |
Oct-16-07 10:55 PM |
#183 |