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10. Lovely.
You don't care about the results on our legislative agenda at all?

TC

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  -Newsweek: Dems Are the New Republicans Totally Committed  Oct-15-07 07:34 AM   #0 
  - Wow, no takers yet... It's getting "chilly" in here.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 07:43 AM   #1 
  - Our party is dying...  TwoSparkles   Oct-15-07 07:46 AM   #2 
  - very well said TS  leftchick   Oct-15-07 07:51 AM   #3 
  - No, our party is ALIVE and our party is GROWING  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 07:55 AM   #4 
  - Well, at least you're honest, and true to the ideals of the organization you support  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 08:02 AM   #5 
  - We  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:08 AM   #6 
     - Well, no.  cali   Oct-15-07 08:42 AM   #20 
     - After these seven years I find it astonishing  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:57 AM   #26 
        - Generally, they're not young people.  cali   Oct-15-07 09:03 AM   #28 
        - I'm 30....I know most of them are older than I am  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:11 AM   #35 
           - What in the world would you do if you didn't have us boomers to bash?  bobbolink   Oct-15-07 12:29 PM   #126 
           - What in the world would you do if you didn't have us DLCer's to bash?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 01:04 PM   #135 
              - Rejoice.  bobbolink   Oct-15-07 07:06 PM   #177 
           - In the '60s we had the Great Society  Art_from_Ark   Oct-15-07 11:30 PM   #182 
        - We've learned . . . that there isn't ENOUGH of a difference . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:03 PM   #152 
     - "We want a Democrat in the White House"  AngryOldDem   Oct-15-07 09:06 AM   #33 
        - I have no problem telling the difference  cali   Oct-15-07 09:17 AM   #39 
        - If YOU can't tell the difference, then that's your problem and I'm sorry for you n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:19 AM   #40 
        - If you can't tell the difference you might be better off not voting at all.  mondo joe   Oct-15-07 10:05 AM   #70 
        - You'd think seven years of George W. Bush would teach these people...  BadgerLaw2010   Oct-15-07 10:32 AM   #83 
           - Not Al Gore, no.  Clark2008   Oct-15-07 11:31 AM   #102 
  - Yup, win one for Big Business then  Skidmore   Oct-15-07 08:12 AM   #7 
  - perhaps the poster  leftchick   Oct-15-07 08:15 AM   #8 
  - I'm not a CEO  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:27 AM   #15 
     - The DLC democrat, which Clinton and others are part of  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 12:47 PM   #129 
        - Anti-corporatism? Then you're anti-DLC . . ... . .. . . . . .. . . .!!!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:13 PM   #157 
  - What is  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:23 AM   #11 
     - You don't see people being screwed?  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 08:27 AM   #14 
     - Take it to the people. One million $10 contributions is a lot of money.  Skidmore   Oct-15-07 08:27 AM   #16 
     - You need more than one million $10 contributions  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:44 AM   #21 
     - And, THAT is the crux of the problem in a nutshell!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 08:49 AM   #22 
     - So ONLY Dennis Kucinich is a "real" Democrat?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:53 AM   #24 
        - Maybe I should have said, "old-time" Democrat...  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 08:56 AM   #25 
           - Okay that's cool  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:03 AM   #29 
              - "Old time democrats"  cali   Oct-15-07 09:06 AM   #32 
              - Mario Cuomo is a good example. n/t  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 09:44 AM   #53 
              - Psssst.  Le Taz Hot   Oct-15-07 09:46 AM   #54 
              - pssst.  cali   Oct-15-07 09:54 AM   #59 
                 - Perhaps it was this line:  Le Taz Hot   Oct-15-07 10:14 AM   #74 
              - You know I was not talking about "Dixiecrats"... n/t  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 09:52 AM   #56 
              - Tell me Social Security would pass today  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 12:50 PM   #131 
                 - With this sorry-ass lot we have elected NOW?  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 02:53 PM   #145 
                 - Well the problem we have is that  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 03:26 PM   #162 
                 - What's the point of asking that?  cali   Oct-15-07 03:33 PM   #164 
     - The last breakdown I heard on public financing was about $6 per person ----  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:14 PM   #159 
     - Actually, it's $10 million, which isn't significant Presidential money.  BadgerLaw2010   Oct-15-07 10:33 AM   #85 
     - I really don't like this view on Big Business  Indenturedebtor   Oct-15-07 09:11 AM   #34 
     - You can support business or you can support labor. You cannot  Marr   Oct-15-07 09:54 AM   #61 
     - Utter nonsense  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:04 AM   #68 
        - That's not true, labor can exist just fine without big business around...  Solon   Oct-15-07 10:14 AM   #75 
        - Big Business gets it's  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:18 AM   #77 
           - EmployEES, big business IS the employers, don't confuse them, please.  Solon   Oct-15-07 10:27 AM   #80 
              - How can  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:33 AM   #84 
                 - Don't tell me you never heard of co-ops?  Solon   Oct-15-07 10:37 AM   #87 
        - Would you like to say something about a "rising tide lifting all boats"?  Marr   Oct-15-07 11:21 AM   #97 
        - Labor unions are democractic  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 12:53 PM   #132 
        - Interesting coin . . . one side 400X the worth of the other -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:09 PM   #154 
     - Working in tandem is one thing  MadHound   Oct-15-07 11:34 AM   #105 
     - Corporations shouldn't have more say in our government  Mythsaje   Oct-15-07 11:58 AM   #110 
        - The crux of the problem now is that corporations are STRONGER than  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:10 PM   #155 
           - I totally agree with this!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 04:44 PM   #169 
  - I can't say I agree.  cali   Oct-15-07 08:33 AM   #18 
  - The irony is that  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:40 AM   #19 
     - Well, his voting record is certainly DLC.  Clark2008   Oct-15-07 11:47 AM   #106 
        - And I think you're wrong.  Mythsaje   Oct-15-07 12:02 PM   #113 
  - The party you've hijacked is alive, albeit parasitized.  Tesha   Oct-15-07 09:05 AM   #31 
  - How can we "hijack" our OWN party?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:26 AM   #46 
  - If they were standing in front of me, I'd say it to their faces.  Tesha   Oct-15-07 09:57 AM   #63 
     - No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:01 AM   #64 
     - Heck, apologies for the triple post....hopefully a Moderator will delete posts # 65 and # 66  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:08 AM   #72 
     - You got anybody particularly in mind? 'Cause I voted for Gore and Kerry. (NT)  Tesha   Oct-15-07 10:09 AM   #73 
     - I wasn't specifically meaning you though was I?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:15 AM   #76 
        - No, you're still responsible. Kerry would *NEVER* have been my choice as the candidate.  Tesha   Oct-15-07 10:53 AM   #91 
           - Kerry wasn't my choice either, but I voted for him  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 01:16 PM   #139 
              - Kerry was bottom of the heap -- and Howard Dean was leading -- Oops ....  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:11 PM   #156 
     - LOL, you are seriously deficient in history  MadHound   Oct-15-07 11:52 AM   #108 
     - Blaming it on Nader lets peaople avoid facing the sad fact that...  Tesha   Oct-15-07 01:22 PM   #140 
        - I agree --  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 04:49 PM   #170 
     - I don't know how many times this has to be repeated to sink in  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 01:07 PM   #136 
     - No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:01 AM   #65 
     - I'm not a naderite  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-15-07 01:22 PM   #141 
     - Joy in "scapegoating" prevents one opening one's mind to reality, evidently -- !!!  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:22 PM   #160 
     - No, Ralph Nader and The Naderites are RESPONSIBLE for the mess we're in  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:01 AM   #66 
        - Where is your evidence for "conspiracy' between Nader/Greens and Scalia -- ????  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:23 PM   #161 
        - That's the third time you've repeated the same  Mythsaje   Oct-15-07 10:56 PM   #179 
  - Make no mistake, its not their party. It still belongs to Democrats  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 12:22 PM   #121 
  - Gee, how can you say that it's progress  MadHound   Oct-15-07 11:23 AM   #99 
  - Great point!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 11:34 AM   #104 
  - The DLC is nothing but corporate whores  alarimer   Oct-15-07 12:04 PM   #114 
  - Yes, you're party - the GOP - is winning  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 12:17 PM   #118 
     - My party is the Democratic Party  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 01:12 PM   #138 
        - I used to be a member of DLC  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 02:51 PM   #143 
           - It once worked for the Democratic Party?  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 03:01 PM   #151 
  - I'll take money and winning. Policy making ability when out of power = zilch.  BadgerLaw2010   Oct-15-07 08:15 AM   #9 
  - Lovely.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 08:19 AM   #10 
  - We have no legislative agenda at all as the minority party  NNN0LHI   Oct-15-07 08:30 AM   #17 
  - We are no longer the "Minority" Party.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 09:02 AM   #27 
     - If you got rid of the DLC and the Blue Dogs then  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:15 AM   #37 
     - Not necessarily so  MadHound   Oct-15-07 11:57 AM   #109 
        - This is just the "There'll be no one left in the Party..." argument.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 12:28 PM   #125 
     - bwahaha  cali   Oct-15-07 09:19 AM   #41 
     - With how partisan things are now, you either need the White House or 2/3's in Congress to do policy  BadgerLaw2010   Oct-15-07 10:25 AM   #78 
  - To get solid and concrete results on our legislative agenda we  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:49 AM   #23 
  - Let see, yeah, Bill Clinton was a real people's president  MadHound   Oct-15-07 12:01 PM   #112 
     - Yes he was, President Bill Clinton was an excellant President  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 01:00 PM   #134 
        - NAFTA, DOMA, Don't Ask / Don't Tell, The Welfare Reform Act,  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 04:39 PM   #167 
        - Wow, talk about a biased view of the world  MadHound   Oct-15-07 04:50 PM   #171 
        - And you don't see why many Americans can't see the difference  Mythsaje   Oct-15-07 11:16 PM   #180 
  - What legislative agenda when the President can veto with no override possible?  BadgerLaw2010   Oct-15-07 10:29 AM   #81 
  - Yep, it's just plain common sense and pragmatics isn't it?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 08:26 AM   #13 
  - No thanks, not if its GOP  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 12:20 PM   #120 
  - Awesome post!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 09:12 AM   #36 
  - I don't know where you live  cali   Oct-15-07 09:22 AM   #43 
  - Sadly I agree with you  Lorien   Oct-15-07 09:29 AM   #47 
  - Was it a mistake to abandon working people and economic fairness for IDENTITY POLITICS?  Romulox   Oct-15-07 09:35 AM   #50 
  - Funny thing about political parties - the people in them decide what they are.  mondo joe   Oct-15-07 10:04 AM   #69 
  - I've been around and around on this issue so many times here...  warren pease   Oct-15-07 10:57 AM   #93 
  - "heres the down-and-dirty: the Democrats are utterly complicit"!!!!  leftchick   Oct-15-07 11:16 AM   #95 
  - Awesome post!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 11:32 AM   #103 
  - Cause of death: DLC cancer  notsodumbhillbilly   Oct-15-07 10:58 AM   #94 
  - Thanks!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 11:31 AM   #101 
  - The deathly part of this is... most USians don't realize it.  bobbolink   Oct-15-07 12:00 PM   #111 
  - Establishment Candidate Translates Into  Me.   Oct-15-07 08:24 AM   #12 
  - Big business knows that the neocon label is bankrupt  Elspeth   Oct-15-07 09:05 AM   #30 
  - The economy and the stock market have been historically better under Dem presidents  skipos   Oct-15-07 09:16 AM   #38 
  - Many newer Democrats are aisle jumpers who want to be on the winning team  Romulox   Oct-15-07 09:21 AM   #42 
  - Much Of What You Say Is True  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-15-07 09:31 AM   #48 
  - Dad's an alchoholic, but at least he's *somewhat* fun to be around when he is drunk  Romulox   Oct-15-07 09:36 AM   #51 
     - How Do We Address The Real Problem  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-15-07 09:51 AM   #55 
        - The fight analogy is fatally flawed...politics should be collaborative and consensus based  Romulox   Oct-15-07 09:56 AM   #62 
           - "War Is The Continuation Of Politics By Other Means"  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-15-07 10:03 AM   #67 
              - The dominant ideology in the modern Democratic party is PREDICATED on adopting right-wing economics  Romulox   Oct-15-07 10:08 AM   #71 
  - They're only getting money - not winning  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 12:24 PM   #122 
  - Absolutely correct!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 12:30 PM   #127 
  - I Don't Understand  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-15-07 09:23 AM   #44 
  - seconded.  lionesspriyanka   Oct-15-07 09:23 AM   #45 
  - Exactly correct  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 09:34 AM   #49 
  - Hey,DSB  cali   Oct-15-07 09:40 AM   #52 
     - That's crap, Cali...  Mythsaje   Oct-15-07 11:21 PM   #181 
  - Hey, TC -- take a look at this article I posted in the Editorials forum  antigop   Oct-15-07 09:53 AM   #57 
  - Nail hit on the head with that one, my friend!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 10:49 AM   #89 
  - A choice between neo-cons or neo-libs.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-15-07 09:53 AM   #58 
  - We call this "Sophie's Choice" in my house....  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 10:50 AM   #90 
  - Sellout bastards. We're so screwed!  Joanne98   Oct-15-07 09:54 AM   #60 
  - Support the PDA and DFA  bonito   Oct-15-07 10:26 AM   #79 
  - Huh? AIPAC has NOTHING to do with this  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-15-07 10:30 AM   #82 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-15-07 10:41 AM   #88 
     - AIPAC is simply MIIC . . . Nixon armed right-wing fundamentalist Israel . . . and buried . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 02:59 PM   #150 
     - Heres some info  bonito   Oct-15-07 10:54 AM   #92 
     - I would say these two excerpts illustrate the point:  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 11:26 AM   #100 
     - I will help you out  leftchick   Oct-15-07 11:19 AM   #96 
     - Not many seem to grasp this concept.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 11:21 AM   #98 
     - We are trying to "purge" Republicans from the Democratic Party ----  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 02:56 PM   #149 
  - If people can't wrap their minds around any other difference  tblue37   Oct-15-07 10:34 AM   #86 
  - So you're willing to throw away thousands of innocent lives down the hole of an illegal, immoral war  MadHound   Oct-15-07 12:09 PM   #115 
  - Straw man argument. I didn't say that at all. I just said that in order to  tblue37   Oct-15-07 12:12 PM   #116 
  - No, you didn't state it so succinctly,  MadHound   Oct-15-07 12:19 PM   #119 
  - So you're willing to throw away 1000s of innocent women by a ban on abortion?  RainDog   Oct-15-07 05:34 PM   #175 
  - raaaa raaaa raaaaa sis boom bah  fenriswolf   Oct-15-07 12:59 PM   #133 
  - K&R  DeepModem Mom   Oct-15-07 11:49 AM   #107 
  - DC Dems walk, talk and act like GOP  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 12:14 PM   #117 
  - I agree. Good point! n/t  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 12:25 PM   #123 
  - This is nothing more a way to distract the voter from realizing just how ignorant it is to vote repu  AuntPatsy   Oct-15-07 12:26 PM   #124 
  - afternoon kick (n/t)  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 12:40 PM   #128 
  - So Republicans are finally realizing that "trickle down economics" doesn't work in the long term?  mzmolly   Oct-15-07 12:49 PM   #130 
  - Sometimes it's hard to tell.  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 01:10 PM   #137 
  - .....  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 03:08 PM   #153 
     - *  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 04:09 PM   #166 
  - A view from the gutter  RainDog   Oct-15-07 01:34 PM   #142 
  - DLC doesn't attract voters  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 02:53 PM   #144 
     - But, they attract Corporations.  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 02:55 PM   #147 
     - Real Dems believe in getting votes, making progress  OzarkDem   Oct-15-07 03:13 PM   #158 
        - Yup, those are the ones I remember!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 04:40 PM   #168 
           - were you guys around during the Roosevelt administration?  RainDog   Oct-15-07 05:20 PM   #173 
     - yes, democrats aren't the DLC  RainDog   Oct-15-07 05:06 PM   #172 
        - Rant on anytime  bonito   Oct-15-07 08:29 PM   #178 
  - Kucinich: "DLC are the same as neo-con Republicans" . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 02:54 PM   #146 
  - Do you agree with that, or disagree?  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 02:56 PM   #148 
     - A G R E E with Kucinich . . . !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-15-07 03:28 PM   #163 
        - Thought so!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 03:43 PM   #165 
  - Excellent Article!  leftchick   Oct-15-07 05:25 PM   #174 
  - You are very welcome!  Totally Committed   Oct-15-07 05:40 PM   #176 
  - Just finished reading the link  bonito   Oct-16-07 10:55 PM   #183 
 

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