| 119. No, I meant Wolf. Read Stiglitz' review. It's in post #63 |
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I know you said you heard her say that the admin is fascist, but I don't think that's neccessarily the same as saying the nation is under fascist rule.
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| -Denial |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:30 AM |
#0 |
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No one will listen, nadin.. That is one inconvenient truth. |
tom_paine |
Oct-14-07 02:37 AM |
#1 |
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I know |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:40 AM |
#3 |
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Hmmmm.... |
physioex |
Oct-14-07 02:38 AM |
#2 |
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We have been trained well |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:40 AM |
#4 |
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Denial... |
physioex |
Oct-14-07 02:43 AM |
#5 |
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I'd say there may be some question about Kubler-Ross's ordering being correct, |
bbgrunt |
Oct-14-07 02:37 PM |
#55 |
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are you sure? |
hfojvt |
Oct-14-07 03:15 PM |
#113 |
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If what Ralph Nader said is true about not impeaching Bush, then... |
Selatius |
Oct-14-07 02:43 AM |
#6 |
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There you go... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:45 AM |
#7 |
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Y'know what was funny? How many DUers decided to shoot the messenger. |
Selatius |
Oct-14-07 02:55 AM |
#9 |
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After tonight that was not a surprising response |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:57 AM |
#10 |
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perfectly stated. nt |
bbgrunt |
Oct-14-07 02:40 PM |
#62 |
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and prevent discussion on the crucial issues that caused people to vote for him. |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:15 PM |
#112 |
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Ignorance Is Bliss; Knowing Is Killing Me Slowly, as There Is Nothing I Can Do About It |
Demeter |
Oct-14-07 02:53 AM |
#8 |
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I guess, but I can't stay silent |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:58 AM |
#11 |
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What happened in New Orleans occurred right in front of everybody's face, |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-07 03:16 AM |
#12 |
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I hope we can stop it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:20 AM |
#13 |
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The sad thing is, we have the lessons of history and the means to access them, yet they are ignored |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-07 03:30 AM |
#14 |
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The problem is that if you raise nazis |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:36 AM |
#15 |
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Speaking of 'anomie' |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-07 03:56 AM |
#16 |
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Wow, some of those photos you took I assume |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:36 PM |
#53 |
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The Sad Thing Is That I Actually Believed It Couldn't |
lligrd |
Oct-14-07 05:51 AM |
#18 |
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"What good fortune for governments that the people do not think." - Hitler |
RFKin2008 |
Oct-14-07 07:00 PM |
#214 |
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Thank you |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-07 08:19 PM |
#217 |
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Good one! |
fortyfeetunder |
Oct-14-07 02:36 PM |
#54 |
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Denial indeed. |
democrank |
Oct-14-07 05:42 AM |
#17 |
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It isn't so much as denial, but people don't pay attention |
DemReadingDU |
Oct-14-07 05:57 AM |
#19 |
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You know where I stand on this issue. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 05:59 AM |
#20 |
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Denial |
Afje |
Oct-14-07 06:32 AM |
#21 |
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On edit, I get what you mean |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 07:52 AM |
#24 |
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Sure it can happen here. And none of the posters |
cali |
Oct-14-07 06:39 AM |
#22 |
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go away cali. you are nasty. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 01:10 PM |
#28 |
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No. Thanks for the ever so kind invitation |
cali |
Oct-14-07 01:13 PM |
#29 |
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good idea. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 01:20 PM |
#31 |
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Trust me. |
Puglover |
Oct-14-07 06:45 PM |
#212 |
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Oh geeeeeez nothing like calling the kettle black |
seemslikeadream |
Oct-14-07 02:10 PM |
#38 |
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and one liners prove your assertion so well. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 02:23 PM |
#41 |
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Let's demonstrate WHY some of what you wrote was challenged |
cali |
Oct-14-07 06:57 AM |
#23 |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Oct-14-07 12:21 PM |
#25 |
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Eyes that cannot discern the ink in the water... |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-14-07 12:26 PM |
#26 |
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I think the quote was actually "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause!" |
calipendence |
Oct-14-07 12:29 PM |
#27 |
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parts of an interview with costa-gavros and jean-claude grumberg, about their film |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 01:17 PM |
#30 |
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You can deplore this administration's crimes without claiming they inevitably lead to Nazi fascism |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 01:22 PM |
#32 |
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Making all arguments that warn of parallels |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 01:28 PM |
#34 |
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Guantanamo is a gulag. It is not however comparable to Soviet gulags or Dachau |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 01:32 PM |
#35 |
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The arguments many are making are trajectory. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 01:38 PM |
#36 |
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No, they are not "trajectory" |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:15 PM |
#39 |
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If you believe that there are elements of a police state,a nd that to continue on this road |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:32 PM |
#49 |
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You can agree that we are on that road, yet disagree that our road resembles that of Germany |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:34 PM |
#51 |
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Wrong, you are misrepresenting the OP |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:37 PM |
#57 |
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By trajectory, I am refering to the steps to shut down a working democracy. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:42 PM |
#221 |
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But there have been times this country met all ten steps, and did not proceed to fascism |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:28 PM |
#44 |
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Those had an end game (the wars). They also did not involve acceptance |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:36 PM |
#219 |
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The concentration camps in Germany were only able to happen because of |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:31 PM |
#46 |
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But Germany's exemplars of the ten steps were on a wholly different magnitude |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:32 PM |
#47 |
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no. Germany got further along the steps. The whole point here is that the road |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:37 PM |
#56 |
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You are misrepresenting the author and the OP |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:39 PM |
#58 |
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Their path does not resemble ours at all. Proto-fascist Germany is not comparable to where we are |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:40 PM |
#61 |
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And the OP refuses to use anyother example besides Nazi Germany |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:48 PM |
#74 |
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I don't think you read the book, did you? |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:48 PM |
#75 |
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The author believes we are already a fascist nation |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:53 PM |
#82 |
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That would entail looking up her work and posting it for you. So do you think we have a true democra |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:58 PM |
#91 |
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Well, I hate to ask you to do something as difficult |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:06 PM |
#98 |
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I keep telling you to read it, and you say you dont need to, you already know more than the author. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:07 PM |
#99 |
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That's just untrue |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:10 PM |
#105 |
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ok. there are 3 of you attacking her premise, so I may have mixed you up. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:16 PM |
#115 |
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That's how they tend to start. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:31 PM |
#218 |
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nope. It stareted in the same way, and progressed slowly. You just know how their |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:47 PM |
#72 |
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It didn't start in the same way. Mass-scale politcal riots and shootings? Economic chaos? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:50 PM |
#76 |
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as PNAC put it" without 9-11 it would have taken a much longer time here". |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:54 PM |
#84 |
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You didn't answer my questions. Those elements were key in Germany's decline--where are they? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:55 PM |
#86 |
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Our discussion is about WHAT the 2 GOVERNMENTS did that is similar. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:05 PM |
#96 |
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The government -organized- the brutal, lethal reaction to worker riots in Germany |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:08 PM |
#100 |
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Believe that if you want. or join us and fight it. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:10 PM |
#103 |
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So you deny the violence was govt-organized? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:11 PM |
#106 |
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what violence? what am i supposed to be denying? |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:20 PM |
#121 |
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Post #100 - govt organize violence against workers |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:31 PM |
#136 |
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has nothing to do with this discussion. and, unfortunately, we are headed |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:35 PM |
#143 |
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The violence was HOW Hitler rose to power |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:54 PM |
#163 |
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Fighting it doesn't include making a false historical comparison. That -undermines- the fight |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:13 PM |
#107 |
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I only see 3 people belittling. MOst people, upon hearing her theory get |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:20 PM |
#120 |
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Ask your favorite history professor if our state is much like pre-fascist or fascist Germany |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:23 PM |
#124 |
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are you a history professor? besides what she says is: there are ten steps |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:27 PM |
#130 |
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We've heard about the ten steps |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:34 PM |
#139 |
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Nobody is making that claim. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:47 PM |
#222 |
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Thank you for bringing up Argentina |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:08 PM |
#101 |
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That is the part that is puzzling to her |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:56 PM |
#87 |
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That is the part that is puzzling to her |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:56 PM |
#88 |
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And Germans are people too!! |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:58 PM |
#89 |
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How their story ended |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:52 PM |
#81 |
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I will say it one again before you go on IGNORE |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:41 PM |
#64 |
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It's a shame that basic disagreement elicits such a closed-minded response from you |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:42 PM |
#66 |
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You continue to make the unbelievable claim that you want to discuss the METHOD |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:00 PM |
#92 |
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they are comparable |
GreenArrow |
Oct-14-07 06:19 PM |
#208 |
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inevitable it is not. nor is that the argument. What is amazing is that when you |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 01:56 PM |
#37 |
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You are100% wrong |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:19 PM |
#40 |
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You obviously did not read the book! She says there are 10 steps to fascism. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:27 PM |
#42 |
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10 of the 10 occured under Lincoln and FDR--right here. |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:29 PM |
#45 |
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did you read it yet? |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:46 PM |
#71 |
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Don't hide behind the book. I've seen her explain her thesis numerous times |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:51 PM |
#80 |
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It's all she has |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:55 PM |
#85 |
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You're discussing a thesis written about in a book. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:32 PM |
#137 |
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A thesis YOU wont post |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:35 PM |
#142 |
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here you go: the basic thesis is: |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:38 PM |
#148 |
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Only one minor quible, she uses Authoritarian systems |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:39 PM |
#149 |
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ok. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:40 PM |
#153 |
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Well, that explains why you don't see me criticizing Wolf |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:52 PM |
#162 |
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I was talking about the OP, not Wolf |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:32 PM |
#48 |
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The Op, and wolf say no such thing. They both say we are already in the process! |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:39 PM |
#59 |
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But our process doesn't resemble that of Germany--at all! |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:41 PM |
#65 |
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When asked if we are already a fascists state, Wolf said "YES" |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:45 PM |
#70 |
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Wolf believes we are well on the way to fascism. 90% of the way there, in fact. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:28 PM |
#43 |
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Wrong again. Wolf says we are already there |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 02:34 PM |
#50 |
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She would do well to distinguish between fascism and social-fascism |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:36 PM |
#52 |
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read the book. You are arguing semantics, not reality. really. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:40 PM |
#60 |
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read the book. you are arguing and just missing the whole point. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:45 PM |
#67 |
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We are -not- doing the same things as the Nazis, or even Weimar Germany |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:47 PM |
#73 |
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I disagree strongly with you. It is also very easy to see similarities between |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 02:51 PM |
#79 |
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If we were like Germany, Nader and Kucinich would be dead |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 02:54 PM |
#83 |
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wellstone is pretty dead. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:00 PM |
#93 |
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He was not rifle-butted in the face, shot, and dumped in a river |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:06 PM |
#97 |
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Those steps, to me, surely look like fascism. I dont believe there are any true democracies |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:09 PM |
#102 |
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America under FDR? America under Lincoln? Fascism to you? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:10 PM |
#104 |
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I dont see why you make the comparison at all. FDR tore down corporate power, |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:18 PM |
#118 |
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Ah but FDR meets all ten of Naomi's steps |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:21 PM |
#122 |
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secret prisons? |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:24 PM |
#125 |
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The internment camps don't qualify? If no, then Gitmo doesn't qualify |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:26 PM |
#128 |
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There was torture in the japanese camps? Never heard that before. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:28 PM |
#131 |
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Many died or were permanently injured for lack of medical care |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:35 PM |
#141 |
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no jsut going through the list. FDR's time doesn't fit in. MCCArthyism was the closest |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:36 PM |
#145 |
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you dont need gitmo for that argument. we have secret prisGons now all over the world, in |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:31 PM |
#134 |
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Then why did the OP insist on using Gitmo? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:37 PM |
#147 |
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who cares? why are you fighting the OP with such a vehemence? |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:39 PM |
#150 |
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Did you read the OP? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:56 PM |
#165 |
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not even close. here they are: |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:26 PM |
#127 |
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I know what they are. Which do you think aren't met? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:29 PM |
#132 |
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here you go |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:34 PM |
#140 |
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5, 6 and 10 all are YES by virtue of Japanese internment |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:40 PM |
#154 |
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this is hopeless. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 03:37 PM |
#146 |
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There are also similarities between * and Gandhi |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:03 PM |
#95 |
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Last weekend I went to best buys |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:50 PM |
#77 |
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I was just about to agree with you |
cali |
Oct-14-07 02:51 PM |
#78 |
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In their mind, ignoring the differences is keeping an open mind |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:13 PM |
#108 |
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Sadly when you do that, you completely toss critical thinking |
cali |
Oct-14-07 03:16 PM |
#116 |
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Yes, but if allowed to continue could get worse in its abuses. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:39 PM |
#220 |
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Actually, not to pick nits or count angels or whatever, that's |
cali |
Oct-14-07 02:45 PM |
#68 |
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Do you mean the OP or the author, Wolf? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:16 PM |
#114 |
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No, I meant Wolf. Read Stiglitz' review. It's in post #63 |
cali |
Oct-14-07 03:19 PM |
#119 |
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No, Wolf was pretty clear about it |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 03:43 PM |
#157 |
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That's interesting. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:13 PM |
#177 |
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"getting their rocks off" is a good way to put it |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:46 PM |
#190 |
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Denial is a survival strategy, not a great one, but there it is. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-14-07 01:25 PM |
#33 |
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I agree with him, the Interwebs are a tool |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 02:45 PM |
#69 |
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Here. A review of "The Shock Doctrine" |
cali |
Oct-14-07 02:41 PM |
#63 |
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The modern totalitarian Empire superficially looks nothing like Germany... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-14-07 02:58 PM |
#90 |
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I agree to a point--arguing it's not like Germany's decline indicates knowledge, not ignorance |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:02 PM |
#94 |
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People are always stuck with comparisons... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-14-07 03:14 PM |
#110 |
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There are valid historical analogies. One just needs to acknowledge the capacity for error |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:18 PM |
#117 |
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I would rephrase that slightly. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-07 03:23 PM |
#123 |
| -
like this? |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:40 PM |
#152 |
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There is nothing wrong with comparison |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:03 PM |
#167 |
| -
Agreed but... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-14-07 05:33 PM |
#203 |
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I actually agree with much of your post |
cali |
Oct-14-07 03:14 PM |
#109 |
| -
to argue "it's nothing exactly like nazi germany" is to argue 2 empires must be 100% identical |
NuttyFluffers |
Oct-14-07 11:02 PM |
#224 |
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kick |
spanone |
Oct-14-07 03:14 PM |
#111 |
| -
"Cassandra's Curse" |
proud patriot |
Oct-14-07 03:24 PM |
#126 |
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Most of this thread turned into arguing about different flavors of fascism, ignoring CURRENT THREATS |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:27 PM |
#129 |
| -
The fascists love when a bad argument marginalizes a real, crucial warning |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:29 PM |
#133 |
| -
the bad arguers are the ones doing the marginalizing |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:34 PM |
#138 |
| -
Uncritical illogical thinking got us into this mess. You would use the same to get us out? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 03:42 PM |
#156 |
| -
Nice strawman. No thanks. |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:04 PM |
#168 |
| -
Go look in a mirror. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:26 PM |
#185 |
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How is that a strawman? |
jpgray |
Oct-14-07 06:02 PM |
#205 |
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smug putdowns? Did you read the OP? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:01 PM |
#166 |
| -
this bs is a waste of time |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:05 PM |
#169 |
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So being "in denial" was meant to flatter? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:07 PM |
#170 |
| -
go rack up your posts somewhere else. buzz away, little fly. |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:11 PM |
#175 |
| -
I'm not going anywhere |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:46 PM |
#191 |
| -
I actually think they are AFRAID |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:31 PM |
#135 |
| -
the alarms been goin off for a long time |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:35 PM |
#144 |
| -
And that is the hardest step |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:39 PM |
#151 |
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that's the only step, unless one is a hypocrite. Not a hard choice. |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 03:40 PM |
#155 |
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It should't be a hard choice |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:45 PM |
#158 |
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The elders in my family are afraid now. because of the mccarthy era. because |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:50 PM |
#161 |
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Some of my family friends came from Europe |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 03:54 PM |
#164 |
| -
BINGO! Maybe that is why they deny. Accepting this thesis means that we have to do |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:48 PM |
#160 |
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if only |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:08 PM |
#171 |
| -
You don't need to accept the thesis to have been fighting |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:21 PM |
#182 |
| -
so you agree fighting about it is pointless |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:38 PM |
#187 |
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no. I don't. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:43 PM |
#189 |
| -
fighting is a pointless waste of time |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 05:29 PM |
#202 |
| -
Straw man |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:08 PM |
#172 |
| -
What astonishing hubris and ignorance tied up in one |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:10 PM |
#174 |
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funny how those who want to fight here are some of the meanest, just like to fight |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:12 PM |
#176 |
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No, it's not just about liking to fight. it's about caring passionately |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:16 PM |
#179 |
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the meanness speaks for itself |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:21 PM |
#181 |
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That's an opinion. Not a fact. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:25 PM |
#184 |
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what's wrong with |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:37 PM |
#186 |
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I did that initially in her first thread |
cali |
Oct-14-07 04:41 PM |
#188 |
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then don't bother |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:51 PM |
#195 |
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Ignoring the differences is "open-minded"; Considering the differences is "in denial" |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:48 PM |
#192 |
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another stupid strawman question. don't put your assumptions on me |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:50 PM |
#194 |
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Is that all you have? |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:53 PM |
#197 |
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no, i've got your number |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:54 PM |
#199 |
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Feel free to call anytime, day or nite |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 05:01 PM |
#200 |
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LOL. |
cali |
Oct-14-07 06:25 PM |
#210 |
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um. you got it backwards. The point is not to amke the same mistake the German people made. |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 03:46 PM |
#159 |
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no |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:09 PM |
#173 |
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Ok what amazes me is the incredible need to still |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 04:16 PM |
#178 |
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if we discuss instead of argue, maybe sumthin to think about is whether we have free&fair elections |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:19 PM |
#180 |
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Trust me, we tried |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 04:22 PM |
#183 |
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You only tried to avoid responding to criticism |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:50 PM |
#193 |
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flaming, baiting, stalking, attacking, taking fights from thread to thread...................... |
omega minimo |
Oct-14-07 04:53 PM |
#196 |
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An excellent description of the OP |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 04:54 PM |
#198 |
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bingo again omega! |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 05:07 PM |
#201 |
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There's plenty of space between being in denial & being Chicken Little. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-14-07 05:35 PM |
#204 |
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Actually anything that has to do with AUTHORITARIAN models |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 06:05 PM |
#206 |
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Who is trying to silence you? |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-14-07 06:08 PM |
#207 |
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No she doesn't . |
cali |
Oct-14-07 06:23 PM |
#209 |
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I do, but it is the amount of thread hijacks that these guys |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 06:33 PM |
#211 |
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I think |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-14-07 06:47 PM |
#213 |
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It goes well beyond disagreement |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 07:03 PM |
#215 |
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*snort* |
cali |
Oct-14-07 07:07 PM |
#216 |
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the details of the fabric's pattern has nothing to do with the pattern of the dress |
NuttyFluffers |
Oct-14-07 11:15 PM |
#226 |
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The coincidental incidentals I posted in another thread. |
mmonk |
Oct-14-07 08:52 PM |
#223 |
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Yep, that is a good compilation |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-14-07 11:13 PM |
#225 |
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