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Thu Oct-11-07 04:02 PM
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| 69. It's not all glacier melt, no. |
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However, filling the lakes without the glacier melt would be as difficult as filling the oceans. The great lakes are, essentially, a freshwater inland sea. The water that flows into and out of them is immense, but the water filling the lakes is ancient.
Without the action of the glaciers in scouring the land, there would be no lakes. If it weren't for glacier melt, the scouring would not have produced lakes. It would take 25 Great Salt Lakes just to fill Lake Erie and that’s the smallest of the real Great Lakes! Only 1% of the water in the great lakes is renewed each year.
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| -New Mexico governor wants Michigan's water |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 02:46 PM |
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We have to drink somehow |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 02:49 PM |
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The get it from Lake Tahoe |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 02:52 PM |
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Shit happens, we are where we are. |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 03:06 PM |
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We do NOT have the water to spare |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 03:10 PM |
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How much water is in the great lakes... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:11 PM |
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Not enough and too much n/t |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 03:17 PM |
#24 |
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Well if you're so sure... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:21 PM |
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As I stated above |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 03:39 PM |
#46 |
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And that's got nothing to due with New Mexico. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 05:54 PM |
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Why do you need to? |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 07:36 PM |
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You sure as shootin' can leave NM. |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 03:15 PM |
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My lifestyle is perfectly fine, thanks for asking. |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 03:22 PM |
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Then tell your governor to put his hand back into HIS OWN pocket. nt |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 03:44 PM |
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You live in a place that hasn't got enough water to sustain the people who live there. |
Tesha |
Oct-11-07 05:12 PM |
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All of our lives are *FUNDAMENTALLY* out of balance with nature. |
SimpleTrend |
Oct-15-07 01:06 PM |
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Then they should take it from the South |
Clark2008 |
Oct-11-07 03:17 PM |
#25 |
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You do? Both Atlanta and Raleigh are facing imminent shortages |
KamaAina |
Oct-11-07 03:52 PM |
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No, we don't. We have a complete ban on outdoor water use in north GA. |
piedmont |
Oct-11-07 05:32 PM |
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Who is the "We"? Speak for yourself. |
bamalib |
Oct-11-07 07:24 PM |
#131 |
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I'm in North Georgia and part of the "We." |
RebelOne |
Oct-15-07 01:18 PM |
#171 |
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They don't have it to spare, that's the whole point |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:27 PM |
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And if thats the case, fine. |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 03:35 PM |
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Well there's not |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:42 PM |
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Is that all the water you guys have in the north west, just the great lakes? |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 03:43 PM |
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Northwest? Do you know where the Great Lakes are??? nt |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 03:45 PM |
#52 |
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No I have no clue |
Pawel K |
Oct-11-07 04:33 PM |
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The Great Lakes are not in the Northwest |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:48 PM |
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Tell that to the Canadians. It's their water, too. |
amandabeech |
Oct-11-07 03:49 PM |
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Why do you think it would stop with NM? |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 05:23 PM |
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Did I say I thought it would? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 05:45 PM |
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I wasn't talking to you. n/t |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 05:51 PM |
#121 |
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OK, nevermind then. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 05:52 PM |
#122 |
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You get the sun, we get the water |
gollygee |
Oct-11-07 05:07 PM |
#102 |
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You have got to be shitting me. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-14-07 10:22 PM |
#163 |
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Then move to a place with water. |
theHandpuppet |
Oct-11-07 03:48 PM |
#55 |
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Good point - golf courses use excessive amounts of water |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:00 PM |
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It's not about drinking water |
Truth2Tell |
Oct-11-07 04:59 PM |
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Do you have a watered lawn? do you play on local golf courses? If you do you... |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-07 05:11 PM |
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No, I dont play golf. |
Pawel K |
Oct-12-07 08:33 AM |
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you water your lawn? |
LisaM |
Oct-12-07 11:50 AM |
#152 |
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Oh please, spare me the hippie bullshit. nt |
Pawel K |
Oct-12-07 12:00 PM |
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Seriously, you must be high |
LisaM |
Oct-12-07 12:02 PM |
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If you grew too big for your water supply, you'd better shrink. nt |
piedmont |
Oct-11-07 05:27 PM |
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So stop planting golf courses on sand and move back to the Midwest. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-11-07 09:02 PM |
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so move to where the water is. |
QuestionAll |
Oct-11-07 09:05 PM |
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How about living somewhere where the water is? |
JVS |
Oct-11-07 11:54 PM |
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Richardson wants states to discuss water policy |
heraldsqure |
Oct-11-07 02:51 PM |
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Why should they? |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 02:53 PM |
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Name removed |
Oct-11-07 03:23 PM |
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What water issues??? Here in Michigan we have plenty! |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 03:13 PM |
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Exactly, with climate change water availability may shift. |
seasat |
Oct-11-07 06:30 PM |
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he's not proposing taking great lakes water.....yet. This is how it starts. |
bbgrunt |
Oct-14-07 10:39 PM |
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He can go to hell. Drain the Great Lakes? Or is the water going to be piped back? |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-11-07 09:03 PM |
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Not just 'no', but 'HELL NO!' |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 02:53 PM |
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EXCELLENT POINT |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 02:55 PM |
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I'll second that!! |
theHandpuppet |
Oct-11-07 03:52 PM |
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That's a great idea |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 03:16 PM |
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Boo-Ya! |
Clark2008 |
Oct-11-07 03:18 PM |
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Ooh,I like that one |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 04:56 PM |
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Ought humans to live in desert regions? |
WinkyDink |
Oct-11-07 02:54 PM |
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Ought they live in Michigan? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 02:56 PM |
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That's where the precious liquid stuff of life is--so, yes. They ought. |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 02:59 PM |
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It ain't liquidy when it's fifty below. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:03 PM |
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Well, the consequences of having enough fresh water |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:15 PM |
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That's what axes are for. |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:18 PM |
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And getting water from somewhere else is what pipes are for. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:22 PM |
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And yet, somehow the adaptable folks from Michigan manage to survive |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:23 PM |
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Michigan's completely self sufficient? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:25 PM |
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I'm guessing not H2O. |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:26 PM |
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No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:28 PM |
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Petroleum is drilled, refined, bought and sold by private industry. |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:39 PM |
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My relatives in Michigan, where I grew up, aren't interested in a business contract |
amandabeech |
Oct-11-07 04:16 PM |
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There is petroleum here as well natural gas for heating in Michigan |
1gobluedem |
Oct-11-07 03:42 PM |
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Are you for oil pipelines too? |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:25 PM |
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Uh, generally, yes. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:27 PM |
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Let me ask what you do to cut back energy (and water) usage |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:41 PM |
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Take navy showers |
Thothmes |
Oct-15-07 08:16 AM |
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good, stay the fuck down there, and keep your paws off the great lakes. n/t |
Scout |
Oct-11-07 03:59 PM |
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And matches |
Clark2008 |
Oct-11-07 03:24 PM |
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And kettles. |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:25 PM |
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you mean I dont drink Lake Michigan water in winter? |
LSK |
Oct-11-07 03:59 PM |
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I mean Michigan sucks. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:00 PM |
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uhh, Michigan is just across the lake from me |
LSK |
Oct-11-07 04:06 PM |
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Isn't Michigan just across the lake from itself? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:10 PM |
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its down the road 3 blocks, take a left, turn right at the mail box |
LSK |
Oct-11-07 04:19 PM |
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Please explain that. |
NutmegYankee |
Oct-11-07 05:16 PM |
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People have been living in New Mexico for thousands of years too. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 05:54 PM |
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And they haven't needed Great Lakes water, so problem solved. |
spoony |
Oct-12-07 02:07 AM |
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And they got along fine. Guess they weren't using as much water. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-12-07 11:55 AM |
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Do you imagine our lakes |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 04:57 PM |
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Do you imagine things don't live in New Mexico? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:58 PM |
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Did I say that? |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 05:15 PM |
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Don't bother. |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 05:32 PM |
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Did I say the entire lake freezes? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 05:43 PM |
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You said"it ain't liquidy",which I assumed |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 05:56 PM |
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The entire lake isn't at -50 below. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 07:25 PM |
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Well, duh---who is desperate for WATER here? |
WinkyDink |
Oct-11-07 05:25 PM |
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Yes. The Midwest is a normal temperate, wet, fertile climate. Very habitable. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-11-07 09:04 PM |
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Just an idea... |
silverweb |
Oct-11-07 02:59 PM |
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Probably easier to desalinate saline aquifers |
XemaSab |
Oct-11-07 04:07 PM |
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I don't know. |
silverweb |
Oct-11-07 04:53 PM |
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In Santa Barbara they found it easier to hook up to State water than keep the desal plant running |
XemaSab |
Oct-11-07 04:58 PM |
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For now. |
silverweb |
Oct-11-07 05:16 PM |
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Water shortages are a major global issue, so the smart.... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 05:39 PM |
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Exactly what I'm thinking. |
silverweb |
Oct-11-07 06:29 PM |
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Sometimes you just have to admit that any further growth must be curtailed, because |
wienerdoggie |
Oct-11-07 03:00 PM |
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This same sort of idiocy was spouted a couple of decades ago |
IDemo |
Oct-11-07 03:03 PM |
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The water wars may yet result in the break-up of the union. |
hedgehog |
Oct-11-07 03:03 PM |
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sorry no can do |
madrchsod |
Oct-11-07 03:05 PM |
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I'd sell water to NM. At $80 dollars/barrel |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 03:10 PM |
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Well, that would certainly cure |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 05:17 PM |
#109 |
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The problem is... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 05:42 PM |
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I've got no problem with that. It should go to the highest bidder, just like NM's oil |
Romulox |
Oct-11-07 11:40 PM |
#145 |
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No. |
PDJane |
Oct-11-07 03:18 PM |
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Oh I find that hard to believe. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:29 PM |
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I presume that you aren't serious |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:54 PM |
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Well sure it's got a big moraine. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 03:59 PM |
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But it points to the fact that it's a finite resource n/t |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:02 PM |
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It also points to the fact that it's a renewable resource. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:10 PM |
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After the next Ice Age? |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:13 PM |
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No, thanks to precipitation. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:24 PM |
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Oh, fishing, shipping, commercial recreation, wind farms |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:32 PM |
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And this proposal would have a significant impact on those? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:34 PM |
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Tinkering with natural resources is always a crapshoot |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:43 PM |
#86 |
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Yes, the Great Lakes get affected by things. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:44 PM |
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I think probably both |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 04:52 PM |
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I only drink whiskey. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:52 PM |
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It's not all glacier melt, no. |
PDJane |
Oct-11-07 04:02 PM |
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Great Lakes water |
IDemo |
Oct-11-07 04:05 PM |
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Lets do the math. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:22 PM |
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What you're missing is the depth of the river. |
PDJane |
Oct-11-07 04:47 PM |
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Mmm, no I'm not. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Oct-11-07 04:49 PM |
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It's so cute to watch people from different states fight each other. |
originalpckelly |
Oct-11-07 03:34 PM |
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Michigan is actually less cold than some other northern states |
LisaM |
Oct-11-07 03:49 PM |
#57 |
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both your descriptions are incorrect, in my opinion .... |
Scout |
Oct-11-07 04:05 PM |
#71 |
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"one's colder than a witch's thorax" |
marmar |
Oct-11-07 05:00 PM |
#100 |
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Indeed. It's too bad they don't play each other in football. |
KamaAina |
Oct-11-07 07:39 PM |
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Great Lakes diversion enrages all Great Lakes states. Fuck the Southwest. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-11-07 08:58 PM |
#137 |
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Well, let him walk over to Michigan with a big bucket and a sponge. |
HypnoToad |
Oct-11-07 03:46 PM |
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Lake Superior was down a foot from last year |
LSK |
Oct-11-07 03:53 PM |
#60 |
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desert rats, stay away from our Great Lakes water! n/t |
Scout |
Oct-11-07 03:54 PM |
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Sort of like what they've done in California? |
XemaSab |
Oct-11-07 04:09 PM |
#74 |
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What about everyone who wants our (Louisiana) natural gas and oil |
RGBolen |
Oct-11-07 04:11 PM |
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BS hit piece. He did not say that. |
seasat |
Oct-11-07 04:47 PM |
#89 |
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"States like Wisconsin are awash in water" |
malakai2 |
Oct-11-07 10:44 PM |
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Perhaps now people are realizing the lack of logic of building large cities in the DESERT?!!? |
marmar |
Oct-11-07 04:51 PM |
#91 |
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I had a political science teacher |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-07 05:05 PM |
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Maybe the SW should quit wasting water on golf courses and pretty green lawns... |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-07 05:10 PM |
#103 |
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Agreed. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-11-07 05:30 PM |
#113 |
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I live in a Great Lakes state and I collect rainwater to use in my... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 11:33 PM |
#144 |
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and lush green sodded lawns & fountains & imported garden plants |
SoCalDem |
Oct-11-07 05:31 PM |
#114 |
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ROFLMAO!!! What morans!!! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-07 07:09 PM |
#130 |
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Well, Richardson certainly has connections to people who.... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 06:15 PM |
#126 |
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Those aren't the ties you need to worry about. |
seasat |
Oct-11-07 06:47 PM |
#129 |
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Yet, he's pointing out how much "extra" water we have up here... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 11:46 PM |
#146 |
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He wants reclamation to be a Cabinet level position |
LisaM |
Oct-12-07 12:00 PM |
#156 |
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Peak oil and gas will stop this shit. |
Bushwick Bill |
Oct-11-07 08:16 PM |
#135 |
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Fuck him, our lakes. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Oct-11-07 08:57 PM |
#136 |
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Good thing we don't think the same way about our oil and gas. |
TX-RAT |
Oct-15-07 01:17 PM |
#170 |
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All your great lake are belong to us! |
fujiyama |
Oct-11-07 09:43 PM |
#142 |
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...... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-11-07 11:53 PM |
#147 |
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Tough... Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God. |
Romulox |
Oct-12-07 12:09 AM |
#149 |
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Dallas wants Oklahoma's water too |
Horse with no Name |
Oct-12-07 11:59 AM |
#154 |
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State hate people |
loser_user |
Oct-14-07 08:36 PM |
#158 |
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here's a bold idea: don't live in the desert if you want water |
mark414 |
Oct-14-07 08:38 PM |
#159 |
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Many years ago |
Blue_In_AK |
Oct-14-07 08:55 PM |
#160 |
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Many years ago |
Thothmes |
Oct-15-07 08:18 AM |
#167 |
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Perhaps |
CHIMO |
Oct-14-07 09:05 PM |
#161 |
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Privatize the Great Lakes...trade water like a commodity...let the free market decide |
entanglement |
Oct-14-07 09:57 PM |
#162 |
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if they want water, tell them to go to the golf courses and stand under a sprinkler. |
bbgrunt |
Oct-14-07 10:25 PM |
#164 |
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Uh, Bill? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-15-07 08:37 AM |
#168 |
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