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Thu Oct-11-07 10:01 PM
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| 71. Yes. TV news is a propaganda organ of the p-nac elites. |
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Without it, our totems, icons, and sacred symbols would not be dabbed in tears and rubbed in our faces so effectively.
This has happened all through history.
The 4th estate is a threat to the republic now.
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| -911: I will now speak heresy |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 07:45 AM |
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I am sick and tired of the fear-mongering re: 9/11 too, read this: |
FLDem5 |
Oct-11-07 07:49 AM |
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Absolutely right. |
colorado_ufo |
Oct-11-07 06:24 PM |
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What is heart wrenching is that 9-11 was a criminal act and wasn't treated |
higher class |
Oct-11-07 09:56 PM |
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Right after Bush said that he'd make sure that we got those responsible, |
truedelphi |
Oct-12-07 01:19 AM |
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We are now nothing but a bunch of well-armed, trigger-happy bedwetters n/t |
eridani |
Oct-11-07 11:32 PM |
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"USA's PET TRAGEDY" is how I have heard it described |
bos1 |
Oct-12-07 04:49 AM |
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ouch. |
FLDem5 |
Oct-12-07 07:05 AM |
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PERFECT. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 08:38 AM |
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give me credit! |
bos1 |
Oct-13-07 03:26 AM |
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The thing you just don't get is that 9/11 was THE reason for * & Co to SHRED the Constitution. |
TheGoldenRule |
Oct-11-07 09:44 PM |
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I did not say I WANTED another 9-11, I said I am willing to RISK another 9-11 |
FLDem5 |
Oct-12-07 07:06 AM |
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Amen. |
f the letter |
Oct-12-07 10:52 AM |
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No More Fear-Mongering! |
Beartracks |
Oct-11-07 11:41 PM |
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FLDem5 I am with you 100% |
davekriss |
Oct-12-07 08:26 AM |
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thanks. |
FLDem5 |
Oct-12-07 11:23 AM |
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More than double that amount (3000) die every single frigging week from |
Toots |
Oct-11-07 07:49 AM |
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All the evidence of late says... |
Tesha |
Oct-11-07 07:56 AM |
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Terror??? |
Plucketeer |
Oct-11-07 06:57 PM |
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shhhh... Blackwater is going to start out on the gangs. The ones they can't kill |
Ghost in the Machine |
Oct-11-07 07:20 PM |
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Since the day it occurred, I've thought that the best thing America could have done... |
Tesha |
Oct-11-07 07:53 AM |
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Best suggestion I've heard YET. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:03 AM |
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I had sorta the same idea |
VWolf |
Oct-11-07 08:49 AM |
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I think Bush gets down on his knees and daily thanks GOD for 911. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:52 AM |
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Oh, no doubt there nt |
VWolf |
Oct-11-07 09:21 AM |
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He'd have been a half termer |
comtec |
Oct-12-07 04:03 AM |
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Absolutely. As always, "who benefits from the crime?" |
WritersBlock |
Oct-13-07 07:11 AM |
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My immediate reaction was also to rebuild the WTC exactly as it was... |
BrklynLib at work |
Oct-12-07 07:51 AM |
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America's bed-wetting overreaction to 9/11 is ridiculous. |
mwb970 |
Oct-11-07 08:00 AM |
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Why past time to move on ! |
Cybergata |
Oct-11-07 08:11 PM |
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Conservatives are wimps, ultimately |
dmesg |
Oct-11-07 08:04 AM |
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I'm so tired of "King of the Hill" and "my dick's bigger than yours" |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:10 AM |
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Oh, man, I've been saying the same things in private for years! I applaud you for having the |
sinkingfeeling |
Oct-11-07 08:43 AM |
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OH but WE are worth SO MUCH MORE than the rest of the world. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:50 AM |
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Heresy? Far from it! |
VWolf |
Oct-11-07 08:53 AM |
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I've gotten to the point where I don't CARE about the answers anymore. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:56 AM |
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Well you should care |
VWolf |
Oct-11-07 09:27 AM |
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ANTHRAX WAS TERRORISM TOO!! |
Beetwasher |
Oct-11-07 08:55 AM |
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True, but diminished to the point of obscurity. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 09:06 AM |
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Thank you. |
BuyingThyme |
Oct-11-07 08:57 AM |
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Attacks on women's health clinic and workers by those opposed to their operation |
havocmom |
Oct-11-07 09:00 AM |
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True, but my point is not making lists, but putting 911 in its proper perspective. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 09:09 AM |
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Well said. |
Terran |
Oct-11-07 09:06 AM |
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Emphasis on the "jerk" in my book. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 09:13 AM |
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I remember an interview with the widow of one of the men killed |
Arkansas Granny |
Oct-11-07 09:10 AM |
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"Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror" |
CGowen |
Oct-11-07 09:10 AM |
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Then our government has been carrying out acts of terrorism on us for over 5 years now n/t |
rox63 |
Oct-11-07 08:22 PM |
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your post kicks butt. K&R. nt |
raccoon |
Oct-11-07 09:16 AM |
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The Power of Nightmares (BBC) is REQUIRED VIEWING here on DU. |
The Stranger |
Oct-11-07 09:17 AM |
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thanks for posting that.I'm watching it now |
w8liftinglady |
Oct-11-07 10:13 AM |
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lest not forget 911 led to Iraq war where over 3000 US soldiers |
lovuian |
Oct-11-07 09:24 AM |
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Well done |
T.Ruth2power |
Oct-11-07 09:25 AM |
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The real tragedy of 9/11 |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-11-07 10:06 AM |
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that is profound & hits the nail right on the head |
bpeale |
Oct-11-07 10:28 AM |
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You're perfectly correct, of course. Dwelling on it is letting terrorists win. |
redqueen |
Oct-11-07 10:10 AM |
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I believe the fear and hate mongering that followed 9/11 was to ready us for the Iraq invasion. |
KansDem |
Oct-11-07 10:27 AM |
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our daily 5 minutes of hate, huh? |
bpeale |
Oct-11-07 10:29 AM |
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No, just reality... |
KansDem |
Oct-11-07 11:27 AM |
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Fair enough |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-11-07 11:34 AM |
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I think I love you |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-11-07 11:32 AM |
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It has aways amused me that "PRAVDA" means "OFFICIAL TRUTH"... |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 11:36 AM |
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Nah, we're just stubborn. |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-11-07 11:45 AM |
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"pravda" is simply the Russian word for "truth" |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-11-07 01:49 PM |
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I've always seen 9/11 as an American "Kamikaze" event |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-11-07 01:44 PM |
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Yes, good analogy |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-11-07 01:48 PM |
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Good post |
fujiyama |
Oct-11-07 08:47 PM |
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Oh, I'm a huge Pratchett fan n/t |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-13-07 06:37 AM |
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Your post was great. Asking and answering why they |
higher class |
Oct-11-07 10:27 PM |
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More Pratchett |
Prophet 451 |
Oct-13-07 07:00 AM |
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How about we treated this as it was |
Pirate looks at 50 |
Oct-11-07 11:38 AM |
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Then you'll have to call me a heretic, too. |
RevCheesehead |
Oct-11-07 11:39 AM |
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drunk drivers are a MUCH bigger threat to our safety than terrorists. |
QuestionAll |
Oct-11-07 11:41 AM |
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"no money in it for the military-industrial complex" --DING DING DING, we have a winnah! |
kath |
Oct-11-07 11:50 PM |
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K/R. nt |
cyberpj |
Oct-11-07 01:57 PM |
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You put this in excellent prospective |
libodem |
Oct-11-07 02:37 PM |
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live in fear, die in fear |
spanone |
Oct-11-07 02:40 PM |
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I'd like to point out some things about the conspiratorial angle... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-11-07 02:51 PM |
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Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth now has 190 A&E professionals |
petgoat |
Oct-11-07 06:25 PM |
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What does the typical gravity-driven collapse of a 100-story building |
Spinzonner |
Oct-11-07 07:43 PM |
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Obviously that is an explosion, not a gravity-driven collapse. |
petgoat |
Oct-12-07 01:08 AM |
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Of course |
Spinzonner |
Oct-12-07 02:06 AM |
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Crushing a soda cracker illustrates the sequence of events |
petgoat |
Oct-12-07 02:16 AM |
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Ah, refreshing sanity. K&R. (nt) |
Ignis |
Oct-11-07 02:58 PM |
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9/11 took out a few BUILDINGS. Katrina took out a CITY. |
catzies |
Oct-11-07 03:10 PM |
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It was a tragedy, not sort of a tragedy |
adigal |
Oct-11-07 07:29 PM |
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What has happened to your husband is an individual TRAVESTY. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:36 PM |
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You're absolutely right. |
yardwork |
Oct-11-07 07:40 PM |
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And the Lusitania. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-11-07 08:37 PM |
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And the Gulf of Tonkin |
yardwork |
Oct-12-07 03:21 PM |
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Those weren't the only three acts... |
fujiyama |
Oct-11-07 08:39 PM |
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During World War II, European cities suffered the equivalent of 10, 20, 30 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-11-07 09:04 PM |
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Here, here! |
xxqqqzme |
Oct-11-07 09:32 PM |
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This thread is another sad reason why DU is mostly the fringe. |
liberalsoldier5 |
Oct-11-07 09:54 PM |
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Actually, the comparison between 9/11 and bombing women's clinics is similar... |
Solon |
Oct-11-07 10:08 PM |
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Good points. |
liberalsoldier5 |
Oct-11-07 10:33 PM |
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9/11 was a tragedy on a world scale... |
Solon |
Oct-11-07 11:26 PM |
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Our ARROGANCE demands this be a "WORLD SCALE" Tragedy. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:28 AM |
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I was thinking about the fact that up to 50+ nations lost citizens on that day... |
Solon |
Oct-12-07 07:43 AM |
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And how often do you hear that? |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 07:55 AM |
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Never, and that was the point of my post... |
Solon |
Oct-12-07 08:06 AM |
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Actually, I'm agreeing with you. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 08:15 AM |
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I share in that rage, its okay... |
Solon |
Oct-12-07 08:31 AM |
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Bush took used this opportunity to stage the world's biggest prick waving contest... |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 08:37 AM |
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It is said that war is the result of a failure of diplomacy... |
Solon |
Oct-12-07 08:46 AM |
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Bush and his family are perfect examples of "The New Elite." |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 08:59 AM |
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I'm not ashamed at all. |
liberalsoldier5 |
Oct-12-07 01:19 PM |
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WHY would you feel more grief over the American victims? |
baby_mouse |
Oct-13-07 05:50 AM |
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bombast |
datasuspect |
Oct-12-07 07:11 AM |
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Thank you too. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 07:58 AM |
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Agreed, and thanks for writing this....nt |
DemGa |
Oct-12-07 03:32 PM |
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Why do you think an absence of nationalism is equivalent to one world government? NT |
baby_mouse |
Oct-13-07 05:52 AM |
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Yes. TV news is a propaganda organ of the p-nac elites. |
upi402 |
Oct-11-07 10:01 PM |
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I hear what you're saying... |
NoGodsNoMasters |
Oct-11-07 10:02 PM |
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Hey man -- let's let all the murderers and rapists and child molesters off the hook too, right? |
JMDEM |
Oct-12-07 12:15 AM |
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Oh give me a break. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:20 AM |
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Your reply assumes that the Bushcists are not the guilty parties. |
petgoat |
Oct-12-07 06:22 PM |
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Better still, why not establish a 500 mile high monument commemorating EVERY EXECUTION. |
baby_mouse |
Oct-13-07 05:54 AM |
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You didn't die, so it's all good. |
Truthiness Inspector |
Oct-12-07 12:50 AM |
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I don't know WHERE I saw ANY of this as GOOD. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:21 AM |
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So, because PNAC was able to pull off the greatest attack on the US, forgive the traitor Bush? |
Major Hogwash |
Oct-12-07 01:21 AM |
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I didn't say that EITHER. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:23 AM |
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not the best writing... |
obxhead |
Oct-12-07 02:42 AM |
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Thank you (I think.) |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:38 AM |
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It is the neocon goal as outlined in PNAC that they want the world population |
whistle |
Oct-12-07 04:04 AM |
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this is news to me. link? nt |
bos1 |
Oct-12-07 04:47 AM |
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The Iraq War has damaged us more than the attacks of 9/11 |
Roland99 |
Oct-12-07 05:06 AM |
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You want to care for the living? How about New Orleans? |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-12-07 05:41 AM |
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You couldn't be more right, and could not agree with you more. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 05:46 AM |
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Can Rudy still count on you for your vote? |
vssmith |
Oct-12-07 05:57 AM |
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HA HA. VERY funny. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 06:21 AM |
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"Let's remember the dead, but let us care for the LIVING: there is more profit in it." |
MethuenProgressive |
Oct-12-07 07:19 AM |
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So true. As long as we allow the likes of BushCo, Ghouliani and the others of their ilk to milk |
BrklynLib at work |
Oct-12-07 07:49 AM |
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agree w/the spirit of the OP, but 9-11 was more than a tragedy "of a sort" |
npincus |
Oct-12-07 11:05 AM |
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Of a sort refers to the personal tragedy felt by New Yorkers... |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 11:50 AM |
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I agree. Lives were 'forever changed' because Bush had so much invested |
renie408 |
Oct-13-07 07:20 AM |
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we are in total agreement. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-13-07 09:57 PM |
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That's why Truthists are pushing to expose the lies and take the issue away from them. nt |
petgoat |
Oct-14-07 01:16 PM |
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16,037 people were murdered in the U.S. in 2001. |
LWolf |
Oct-12-07 12:17 PM |
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Hello, you've missed your own point- |
MrMickeysMom |
Oct-12-07 03:42 PM |
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The only thing I fear about 9/11 was that the Bush Crime Family did it! |
B Calm |
Oct-13-07 06:21 AM |
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I remember that on 9/11, a guy was driving his pickup to work and was killed on a state highway... |
renie408 |
Oct-13-07 07:04 AM |
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