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47. It won't even go -that- well, because the "LW HEAD" will be Joe Lieberman. nm
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  - Wasn't the so-called 'Saturday Night Massacre' the last straw for Nixon's presidency?  htuttle   Feb-13-07 02:54 PM   #1 
  - yes, but we are a dumber public now and will just let it happen  itsmesgd   Feb-13-07 02:58 PM   #7 
  - Kind of off-topic, but I'd say we are less educated on purpose.  LonelyLRLiberal   Feb-13-07 06:01 PM   #109 
  - You have to remember that back in the mid '70's,  femrap   Feb-13-07 06:19 PM   #113 
  - The difference is the timing. Cox had just begun investigation. Fitz has now "completed" his.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:00 PM   #8 
  - I don't doubt what you're saying but he did ask if the leak was part of what he was  cui bono   Feb-14-07 04:37 AM   #148 
  - Well, yeah, that was the beginning of th end for Crafty Richard.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-13-07 03:00 PM   #9 
  - That was back in the days  seasonedblue   Feb-13-07 03:06 PM   #16 
  - Yes, the attorney general refused to do Nixon's bidding. HUGE historical  robinlynne   Feb-13-07 03:16 PM   #26 
     - Absolutely! How many people did tricky dick go through before he found someone who would? n/t  hootinholler   Feb-13-07 05:04 PM   #87 
        - Didn't Bork finally do the firing? nt  femrap   Feb-13-07 06:20 PM   #114 
           - Yes, Nixon went through two AG, before settling on Bork to do his dirty work.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 07:12 PM   #129 
  - The mainstream media is much more compliant now  NewJeffCT   Feb-13-07 03:30 PM   #43 
  - It won't even go -that- well, because the "LW HEAD" will be Joe Lieberman. nm  dicksteele   Feb-13-07 03:40 PM   #47 
  - I think I saw that interview on Hannity & Colmes last night (eom)  WhaTHellsgoingonhere   Feb-15-07 12:13 PM   #159 
  - Bingo  malaise   Feb-13-07 04:02 PM   #59 
  - Except the GOP didn't control most broadcast media back then.  blm   Feb-13-07 04:03 PM   #62 
  - I remember that like it was yesterday  Jacobin   Feb-13-07 05:37 PM   #104 
     - I remember it very clearly as well....  femrap   Feb-13-07 06:24 PM   #116 
  - Interesting speculation.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-13-07 02:55 PM   #2 
  - Um, they could fire Fitz any time they wanted to.  Kagemusha   Feb-13-07 02:55 PM   # 
  - Timing is everything. Once Libby is convicted, "there's no longer any need" for Fitz to continue  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:03 PM   #13 
     - I'm just saying that was never not in the talking points.  Kagemusha   Feb-13-07 03:08 PM   #18 
     - To counter that point,  Qutzupalotl   Feb-13-07 05:49 PM   #106 
  - I wish I could  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 02:55 PM   #3 
  - Nope. n/t  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 02:56 PM   #4 
  - I scrolled down for your name to see your "take"  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-07 03:00 PM   #10 
  - why?  LSK   Feb-13-07 03:07 PM   #17 
  - Because  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 03:25 PM   #37 
     - the Bush admin has the same problem  LSK   Feb-13-07 03:28 PM   #42 
  - boy, you sure have a lot of valentines!  robinlynne   Feb-13-07 03:17 PM   #27 
  - He sure does!  cat_girl25   Feb-13-07 03:51 PM   #54 
  - I agree, nope nt  Crabby Appleton   Feb-13-07 04:39 PM   #78 
  - You can do better than that.  Morgana LaFey   Feb-13-07 06:36 PM   #118 
  - I'm on htuttle's wavelength on this one. Dismissing prosecutors  Old Crusoe   Feb-13-07 02:56 PM   #5 
  - See my #8 or #13 replies - it's all about the timing of the dismissal  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:05 PM   #15 
     - Intended my response to be in support of your info...  Old Crusoe   Feb-13-07 03:13 PM   #21 
  - I wish what you say didn't make sense, but it does.  SharonRB   Feb-13-07 02:58 PM   #6 
  - BINGO! When I read Fred Thompson's statement I thought  KoKo01   Feb-13-07 03:02 PM   #11 
  - I'm going to consult w an old experienced prosecutor for a reasoned opinion.  lonestarnot   Feb-13-07 03:02 PM   #12 
  - Nothing they do can shock me anymore.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:10 PM   #20 
     - Old prosecutor says no. Special provisions for special prosecutors.  lonestarnot   Feb-13-07 03:40 PM   #48 
     - But at Fitz's appointment, Deputy Attorney General Comey suggested otherwise  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:15 PM   #66 
        - That is just blah blah blah. Ain't happening.  lonestarnot   Feb-13-07 07:05 PM   #127 
        - "in practicum" is what matters  SemperEadem   Feb-15-07 12:35 PM   #161 
     - Gonzales has a snittier smirk than W....  femrap   Feb-13-07 06:26 PM   #117 
  - The clarifying letter from Comey to Fitzgerald, spelling out  Spazito   Feb-13-07 03:03 PM   #14 
  - but the precedent is established. US Attorney General Gonzales only need wave his hand..  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:13 PM   #22 
  - way wrong. n/t  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 03:13 PM   #23 
  - How is Fitz any different from the recently terminated Gonzo Six?  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:19 PM   #30 
  - He's acting as "special counsel" here,  Marie26   Feb-13-07 05:21 PM   #96 
  - Gonzales recused himself from the CIA Leak Case: He has no legal interest in Fitzgerald (!) ...  tiptoe   Feb-15-07 11:25 AM   #154 
  - Excellent find!  Spazito   Feb-15-07 11:29 AM   #155 
  - Gonzales already distinguished Pat Fitzgerald as THE determiner of "what will happen going forward"  tiptoe   Feb-15-07 11:54 AM   #157 
  - I hope you are WAY RIGHT about it being Way Wrong!  ClayZ   Feb-13-07 03:27 PM   #41 
     - I am. n/t  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 04:36 PM   #73 
  - No, in this case, Fitzgerald is NOT serving as US District  Spazito   Feb-13-07 03:18 PM   #29 
  - But in that capacity, Fitz is still under Gonzales. And if Alberto says:  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:21 PM   #32 
     - Wrong.  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 03:23 PM   #34 
     - I believe in my OP, I requested that somebody *show me* I'm wrong  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:25 PM   #36 
     - Read.  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 03:26 PM   #39 
        - Wrong.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:28 PM   #68 
           - Read further. n/t  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 04:34 PM   #70 
     - I hope you are right.  Seldona   Feb-13-07 05:05 PM   #88 
     - Fitz's boss atthe time he was assigned this case set it up so Fitz can not be removed!  flyarm   Feb-13-07 05:09 PM   #93 
  - He can fire him as US Attorney  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 03:20 PM   #31 
  - Thanks Julie. Now we're getting somewhere.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:27 PM   #40 
  - actually, I think only the pres can fire a us attorney  onenote   Feb-13-07 03:32 PM   #44 
     - We just went through this in Seattle  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 03:58 PM   #57 
        - Regarding authority of Gonzo to remove Special Council, see seasonedblue's post #49 below.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:08 PM   #64 
        - TinMan, I've read James Comey's comments on the appointment of Mr. Fitzgerald previously  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 04:39 PM   #77 
           - Just to add to your comments, the press conference  Spazito   Feb-13-07 05:10 PM   #94 
        - McKay resigned  onenote   Feb-13-07 05:32 PM   #100 
  - Don't think you are right  onenote   Feb-13-07 03:24 PM   #35 
     - Gonzales just did *exactly that* to six other USDAs - under powers "derived" from the Patriot Act  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:33 PM   #45 
        - Tin Man,  seasonedblue   Feb-13-07 03:41 PM   #49 
        - Thanks for that info. If Comey figured he had the authority, then by extension, Gonzales has it too.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 03:53 PM   #55 
        - This press conference took place Dec/2003 before....  Spazito   Feb-13-07 05:06 PM   #89 
           - Thank you,  seasonedblue   Feb-13-07 06:56 PM   #126 
           - Good work, Spaz - a gold star for your succint explanation  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 08:06 PM   #132 
              - Thanks, Tin Man! Posting theories, opinions are the best  Spazito   Feb-13-07 09:13 PM   #137 
                 - Yes, and it's always good  seasonedblue   Feb-15-07 12:02 PM   #158 
                    - I think your posting the press conference was a GOOD thing!  Spazito   Feb-15-07 12:14 PM   #160 
        - special protections for special prosecutors regardless of patriot cow paddy.  lonestarnot   Feb-13-07 03:42 PM   #50 
        - wrong. Gonzales did not fire the other USDAs under powers from the Patriot Act  onenote   Feb-13-07 05:22 PM   #97 
           - "Stepping down" is defacto firing. People don't volunteer to resign without credible threat  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 05:31 PM   #99 
              - right. but I don't think Fitz is susceptible to that sort of intimidation  onenote   Feb-13-07 05:34 PM   #102 
  - Bingo  proud patriot   Feb-13-07 05:35 PM   #103 
  - The cat is out of the bag...  Hubert Flottz   Feb-13-07 03:08 PM   #19 
  - You're right - we need Keith Olbermann to mention this - put it on the record  file83   Feb-14-07 12:22 AM   #140 
  - It will be on a Friday with other events dominating the news  herbster   Feb-13-07 03:14 PM   #24 
  - This is discouraging...  meldroc   Feb-13-07 03:14 PM   #25 
  - Fitz is not an Independent Counsel. Independent Counsel law expired in 1999 & was not renewed. n/t  Garbo 2004   Feb-14-07 03:34 AM   #147 
     - Actually, it was the independent prosecutor law that expired  JulieRB   Feb-15-07 11:53 AM   #156 
  - I wonder what took them so long?  The Backlash Cometh   Feb-13-07 03:18 PM   #28 
  - It sounds like Fitz is on the right track  C_U_L8R   Feb-13-07 03:23 PM   #33 
  - Well, good luck with that.  aquart   Feb-13-07 03:26 PM   #38 
  - Never in hell  WilliamPitt   Feb-13-07 03:36 PM   #46 
  - Thank you.  lonestarnot   Feb-13-07 03:42 PM   #52 
  - Altho Fitz cannot be removed, the US Attorneys recently were, hamstringing  Dems Will Win   Feb-13-07 03:49 PM   #53 
  - It's also important  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 04:02 PM   #60 
  - What cause did Nixon have for firing Cox????  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:33 PM   #69 
     - Nope.  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 04:35 PM   #71 
        - Gonzo and Bush are free to invent reasons, too.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:37 PM   #74 
           - You are silly.  H2O Man   Feb-13-07 04:38 PM   #76 
              - If you need a refresher: Time Magazine. Oct. 29, 1973  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:42 PM   #80 
  - Iraq.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:04 PM   #63 
  - If you don't think they've already been over his background  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 04:48 PM   # 
     - He wanted to get a cat? Off-topic but  glitch   Feb-13-07 06:01 PM   #108 
        - It's time for some off-topic Patrick Fitzgerald love!  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 06:38 PM   #120 
  - In their arrogance, however, I have heard several supporters of  Arkansas Granny   Feb-13-07 04:27 PM   #67 
  - You're right. "Plame wasn't undercover. It's a witch hunt by the Bush haters..." yadda yadda yadda  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:35 PM   #72 
  - Seeing "seventeen kinds of fresh hell" set loose amoung the cabal  sellitman   Feb-13-07 06:48 PM   #123 
  - Am I the only one in the world  JulieRB   Feb-13-07 06:51 PM   #124 
     - Someone upthread made a good point about this.  WilliamPitt   Feb-13-07 07:11 PM   #128 
        - Or maybe someone in Congress will ask him to testify.  conscious evolution   Feb-13-07 07:39 PM   #130 
  - I'm sure our courageous risk-taking media has lots of runaway brides, diapered astronauts,  aint_no_life_nowhere   Feb-13-07 03:42 PM   #51 
  - Why is it that all-caps titles always lead to a lousy post?  La_Fourmi_Rouge   Feb-13-07 03:55 PM   #56 
  - If I could recommend a post in this thread it would be yours  Laurab   Feb-13-07 06:44 PM   #121 
  - I double dog dare 'em !  TorchesAndPitchforks   Feb-13-07 03:59 PM   #58 
  - K& R.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-13-07 04:02 PM   #61 
  - kinda late for that if you ask me  HuffleClaw   Feb-13-07 04:15 PM   #65 
  - I think they hired Fitz cause he's a repuke, and figured that HE would be their patsy nt  gulfcoastliberal   Feb-13-07 04:37 PM   #75 
  - That's what I thought when I read Thompson's remarks  SquireJons   Feb-13-07 04:42 PM   #79 
  - Agree wholeheartedly, 100% - nt  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 04:49 PM   #82 
  - So, God forbid, suppose no one beyond Libby is convicted...  Frustratedlady   Feb-13-07 04:48 PM   #81 
  - I would defer to H20 Man's judgment (and crystal ball) on anything to do with  Peace Patriot   Feb-13-07 04:54 PM   #83 
  - Sealed vs Sealed: Fitz' automatic "Doomsday Machine" response to any "dismissal attack"?  tiptoe   Feb-17-07 03:07 AM   #162 
     - And in answer to my premature question: "Does Fitz' anyone in AG Office?"...from #110:  tiptoe   Feb-17-07 05:20 AM   #163 
  - Wait, So That Melodramatic All Caps Header And Rambling Body All Came Down To "Cause I Think So"???  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-13-07 04:54 PM   #84 
  - Read it again.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 05:01 PM   #86 
  - No Thanks. I Wasted Enough Time Already Reading It The First Time.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-13-07 05:07 PM   #91 
     - Yours, by contrast, are non-existent. Same as it ever was.  Jim Sagle   Feb-13-07 11:31 PM   #139 
  - Perhaps the handle of the OP  Patsy Stone   Feb-13-07 06:51 PM   #125 
  - I see but...  JackRiddler   Feb-13-07 05:00 PM   #85 
  - Or alternatively, attack Iraq, then shitcan Fitz - and Cheney stays put.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 05:06 PM   #90 
  - Why bother?  Marie26   Feb-13-07 05:07 PM   #92 
  - The action would *NOT* happen now. Libby's trial will conclude, with Fitz in charge.  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 05:24 PM   #98 
     - There's no indication they're planning to do that  Marie26   Feb-13-07 05:34 PM   #101 
     - Yes, they won't fire Fitz in the middle. But once Libby is convicted, no "need" for Fitz to remain  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 05:44 PM   #105 
        - Nah  Marie26   Feb-13-07 05:53 PM   #107 
     - It's not Fitz's grand jury. It's not a special grand jury dedicated solely to Fitz's investigation.  Garbo 2004   Feb-14-07 03:22 AM   #146 
        - GJ term expires this April  Tin Man   Feb-14-07 08:47 AM   #150 
           - Fitzgerald can always use a regular Federal grand jury....  Spazito   Feb-14-07 09:06 AM   #151 
  - No need to fire Fitzgerald....  MilesColtrane   Feb-13-07 05:11 PM   #95 
  - Yes, "Plan A" is to sacrifice Libby. What I have described is "Plan B"  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 06:17 PM   #112 
  - Fitz can't be removed as Special Counsel.  Independent_Liberal   Feb-13-07 06:08 PM   #110 
  - I remember the outrage when Nixon's people fucked with the justice system  antifaschits   Feb-13-07 06:17 PM   #111 
  - yeah, then Conyers will appoint him special prosecuter  AZDemDist6   Feb-13-07 06:20 PM   #115 
  - Just want to add a comment on the Comey letter, and any reliance on a  Peace Patriot   Feb-13-07 06:37 PM   #119 
  - "We live in a bubble of Bush facism"  agincourt   Feb-14-07 12:35 AM   #141 
  - I love it..  sendero   Feb-13-07 06:48 PM   #122 
  - The most important thing on their agenda is to make a last gasp  higher class   Feb-13-07 07:51 PM   #131 
  - Did you go with TIN MAN just so that people would give you  BuyingThyme   Feb-13-07 08:12 PM   #133 
  - ROTFLMAO !!!  Tin Man   Feb-13-07 08:18 PM   #134 
  - Tin Man, you are scaring me big time...  derby378   Feb-13-07 08:22 PM   #135 
  - That is what I have been afraid of. They will not let anyone do the  jwirr   Feb-13-07 09:12 PM   #136 
  - I would imagine that the Congress wouldn't roll over for that.  Vinnie From Indy   Feb-13-07 09:41 PM   #138 
  - this IS the most corrupt administration in history, right?  Stephanie   Feb-14-07 12:42 AM   #142 
  - "The Man" speaks the truth as to the intentions of the "evil doers"  autorank   Feb-14-07 01:43 AM   #143 
  - Hmm, sounds complicated  ProudDad   Feb-14-07 01:43 AM   #144 
  - Totally vile, and completely logical.  Edweird   Feb-14-07 03:03 AM   #145 
  - Looks like people need to actually read legislation...  GreenEyedLefty   Feb-14-07 07:42 AM   #149 
  - Great post Tin Man  bobbie   Feb-14-07 10:47 AM   #152 
  - So, do they dismiss him now, during the Libby trial, or afterwards?  leveymg   Feb-14-07 02:49 PM   #153 

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