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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:46 PM
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45. I appreciate that response.... In my opinion,
the laypeople of the Democratic party need to take it back from the politicians instead of handing it over to a presumptive candidate on a silver platter. They ALL should have to EARN our votes. No one should be coronated by two or three states.
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  -OK, NOW---The explanation behind the polls. rateyes  Oct-09-07 06:36 PM   #0 
  - Again, kicking for exposure...appreciating any recs. Thanks.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 06:39 PM   #1 
  - According to political compass John Edwards appears the least conservative of the group  liberaldemocrat7   Oct-09-07 09:34 PM   #42 
     - The hard left Edwards took will not help him in the general election.  BrightKnight   Oct-09-07 10:28 PM   #61 
        - Edwards is the only candidate who has the courage and resolve  JDPriestly   Oct-09-07 11:52 PM   #65 
        - They did a good job cleaning up after Bush Sr.. The cabinet was solid...  BrightKnight   Oct-10-07 12:36 AM   #67 
        - Doing things differently is NOT cleaning up.  NCevilDUer   Oct-10-07 11:27 AM   #98 
        - NCevilDUer, I agree with you; but...  dickbearton   Oct-10-07 05:06 PM   #137 
        - How I would like to think that HC would bring things back to normal  goclark   Oct-10-07 04:09 PM   #134 
        - Bullshit.  Clark2008   Oct-10-07 11:12 AM   #93 
        - You Live In The South So You MUST Have Some Idea About HOW  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 11:42 AM   #101 
           - I have to jump in. I do not have one single friend who is a democrat  JeanGrey   Oct-10-07 12:15 PM   #114 
           - Hey, I've Run Into Those Who Are VERY Soft For Hillary... But  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 12:35 PM   #122 
           - That says more about your friends then HC...  dickbearton   Oct-10-07 05:23 PM   #138 
           - Elizabeth Edwards pointed out (while in Iowa) recently  JDPriestly   Oct-10-07 06:31 PM   #142 
  - I missed most of your polls earlier  Lone_Star_Dem   Oct-09-07 06:42 PM   #2 
  - I'm pretty much with you  Juniperx   Oct-09-07 06:42 PM   #3 
  - IMO  againes654   Oct-09-07 08:44 PM   #34 
  - I think #1 will pretty much happen on it's own...  rucky   Oct-09-07 06:43 PM   #4 
  - I think you have a pretty good read on this.  Mojambo   Oct-09-07 06:43 PM   #5 
  - Anybody willing to give one more rec? After that, I don't care  rateyes   Oct-09-07 06:50 PM   #6 
  - I've already rec'd it  Lone_Star_Dem   Oct-09-07 06:55 PM   #9 
     - Thanks.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 06:57 PM   #11 
        - I was going to come back and kick for a 5th, but you're up to 20 already.  Lone_Star_Dem   Oct-09-07 07:33 PM   #21 
           - I hope we can get this discussion going all over the country...  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:38 PM   #44 
  - Shamelessly kicking to see if I can get one more R? Thanks.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 06:54 PM   #7 
  - You trigger some thoughts...  Jackpine Radical   Oct-09-07 06:54 PM   #8 
  - It will have to be a concious decision of the people. nt  rateyes   Oct-09-07 06:56 PM   #10 
  - Why behind Edwards?  creeksneakers2   Oct-10-07 07:13 PM   #143 
  - tough question to ponder....  RiverStone   Oct-09-07 06:59 PM   #12 
  - This is so...interesting.  renie408   Oct-09-07 07:02 PM   #13 
  - #5..k&R...GOOD IDEAS!! Edwards is my guy unless Gore gets in!!  flyarm   Oct-09-07 07:02 PM   #14 
  - About Gore... me, too. n/t  renie408   Oct-09-07 07:02 PM   #15 
  - I support John even if Gore jumps in. But I would welcome Gore  saracat   Oct-09-07 07:04 PM   #16 
  - fly speaks for me n/t  themartyred   Oct-09-07 10:40 PM   #62 
  - Does anyone know how to rename the links above...  rateyes   Oct-09-07 07:19 PM   #17 
  - yeah use the HTML lookup table  BelgianMadCow   Oct-09-07 07:34 PM   #22 
     - here it is for the first poll  BelgianMadCow   Oct-09-07 07:39 PM   #23 
        - Thanks. I won't do that now, but will remember it for the future...  rateyes   Oct-09-07 10:03 PM   # 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Oct-09-07 07:19 PM   #18 
  - Rest assured, she is not going to make it...Edwards wins IA by 2%, Obama wins  Nimrod2005   Oct-09-07 07:26 PM   #19 
  - Can you tell me the TX lottery numbers?  againes654   Oct-09-07 08:03 PM   #27 
  - Rattie, I have to absorb all of that. This calls for coffee! but k&r for sure.  robinlynne   Oct-09-07 07:26 PM   #20 
  - Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate that matches my views on most issues  Steve_DeShazer   Oct-09-07 07:51 PM   #24 
  - Dennis Rocks  mikelewis   Oct-09-07 08:30 PM   #31 
  - I agree with you 100%  againes654   Oct-09-07 08:36 PM   #33 
     - Betrayal is a harsh word... probably too harsh.  mikelewis   Oct-09-07 09:11 PM   #36 
     - Well thanks for bursting my bubble  againes654   Oct-09-07 09:16 PM   #37 
     - Yes  Steve_DeShazer   Oct-09-07 09:49 PM   #46 
        - Thank you  againes654   Oct-09-07 10:07 PM   #54 
        - Yes, i would add to that  John Q. Citizen   Oct-09-07 11:45 PM   #64 
  - If Al Gore enters, the whole equation changes...  calipendence   Oct-09-07 09:21 PM   #38 
  - I hope you're right about that, Steve.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:37 PM   #43 
  - Yes Kucinich matches my views the best, but Edwards is 2nd and can win  LSK   Oct-10-07 10:04 AM   #87 
     - Great minds think alike ! nt  EVDebs   Oct-10-07 01:33 PM   #126 
  - Kicked and HIGHLY recommended  againes654   Oct-09-07 07:57 PM   #25 
  - I appreciate that response.... In my opinion,  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:46 PM   #45 
     - Exactly  againes654   Oct-09-07 10:20 PM   #57 
  - I like the strategic approach  Yael   Oct-09-07 08:00 PM   #26 
  - You cite small-response DU polls as being representative of the general public?  MethuenProgressive   Oct-09-07 08:08 PM   #28 
  - But if all those that did participate  againes654   Oct-09-07 08:18 PM   #29 
  - It's not representative of the General Public but it is or should be indicative of the possible...  mikelewis   Oct-09-07 08:22 PM   #30 
  - That's what I was aiming at. Thanks.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:55 PM   #49 
  - No, I don't do that. I started pretty well knowing  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:53 PM   #48 
  - i have been saying that since 2000  bpeale   Oct-10-07 12:06 PM   #108 
  - Small sample = larger margin of error  Squatch   Oct-10-07 08:43 AM   #83 
  - I agree but you have to take into account the compacted primary season this cycle....  Blackhatjack   Oct-09-07 08:31 PM   #32 
  - Food for thought.  Hatchling   Oct-09-07 09:05 PM   #35 
  - That is how I feel as well  me b zola   Oct-09-07 10:08 PM   #55 
  - So now we believe "polls" -- and MSM . . . ????  defendandprotect   Oct-09-07 09:22 PM   #39 
  - Oh my God, that was well said, you'll scare people by making so much sense!!  SaveAmerica   Oct-09-07 09:23 PM   #40 
  - You're thinking what I'm thinking.  rateyes   Oct-09-07 09:58 PM   #50 
     - Well I will do what I can to get the idea going  againes654   Oct-09-07 10:23 PM   #58 
     - Grassroots, you've planted the seed here. You'll need to find someone  SaveAmerica   Oct-09-07 10:43 PM   #63 
  - oh yeah, gladly recommended  SaveAmerica   Oct-09-07 09:23 PM   #41 
  - No flames here.  utopiansecretagent   Oct-09-07 09:53 PM   #47 
  - Nice analysis, I appreciate it. I have always felt that Edwards was the  Colorado Progressive   Oct-09-07 10:03 PM   #51 
  - This is a very good idea except...  JMDEM   Oct-09-07 10:03 PM   #52 
  - In that scenario, I'm for Edwards and Obama working out  rateyes   Oct-09-07 10:06 PM   #53 
  - Agreed  marions ghost   Oct-10-07 02:15 AM   #69 
  - Of all three options, I also like #3 the best.  Mister Ed   Oct-09-07 10:12 PM   #56 
  - I like your Option #3 as well. If they all can't stay in maybe the top five?  KoKo01   Oct-09-07 10:26 PM   #59 
  - I'm for option #3  cynthia   Oct-09-07 10:28 PM   #60 
  - First - 1/2 of 3% of the eligible voters in Iowa  ProudDad   Oct-10-07 12:12 AM   #66 
  - And, that's what I'm trying to avoid...  rateyes   Oct-10-07 06:38 AM   #73 
  - I have no greater hope than Clinton NOT getting the nomination.  Tafiti   Oct-10-07 01:37 AM   #68 
  - Somehow everybody was pulled together for Kerry.  iaviate1   Oct-10-07 02:58 AM   #71 
  - I supported the lesser evil last time...  iaviate1   Oct-10-07 02:55 AM   #70 
  - I don't think that's what he's saying.  Tafiti   Oct-10-07 12:08 PM   #109 
  - The Re-Pugs  kiloman   Oct-10-07 06:04 AM   #72 
  - They know they'd like to run against her n/t  dragonlady   Oct-10-07 04:00 PM   #133 
  - We are totally on the same page RE ! Excellent analysis. I wonder  Laura PackYourBags   Oct-10-07 06:50 AM   #74 
  - Here is my thinking this Wednesday morning. I have hope. That finally. The  Ninga   Oct-10-07 06:56 AM   #75 
  - Damn, rateyes!  caseycoon   Oct-10-07 07:03 AM   #76 
  - Yes, but if you put up a NYC lawyer (Ghoul) vs. a Southern Lawyer my guess is  skyblue   Oct-10-07 07:08 AM   #77 
  - Oh really?? If Edwards is the "Southern Lawyer" his win/loss record fighting for the  Ninga   Oct-10-07 07:34 AM   #79 
     - Polls don't show that he's doing that impressively vs. Ghoul. Don't Get me Wrong: I like Edwards.  skyblue   Oct-10-07 07:54 AM   #80 
        - I know. My thought is that Edwards vs. Ghoul in Miss, LA, Tenn, SD, ND  Ninga   Oct-10-07 09:18 AM   #84 
           - I figure Florida lg num electoral votes for Biden. NYC Metro retirees are not warm and fuzzy.  skyblue   Oct-11-07 04:21 AM   #146 
  - Don't forget superdelegates  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-10-07 07:11 AM   #78 
  - Your results were so bizarre I don't think they explain anything at all  muriel_volestrangler   Oct-10-07 08:30 AM   #81 
  - Agreed.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 09:56 AM   #86 
  - Sorry but you make way too much sense.  Semper_FiFi   Oct-10-07 12:29 PM   #120 
  - According to a guest on NPR, the repubs want  zalinda   Oct-10-07 08:32 AM   #82 
  - I Can Certainly See Why  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-10-07 11:16 AM   #94 
  - There's a fundamental flaw in your underlying assertions  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 09:36 AM   #85 
  - The othe rmajor flaw  MonkeyFunk   Oct-10-07 10:18 AM   #89 
  - Agreed.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 10:56 AM   #90 
  - To be honest, these polls may not even represent the avg DUer  LeftCoast   Oct-10-07 11:25 AM   #97 
     - Good point. The time frame is also an issue.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 11:41 AM   #100 
  - The national polls are irrelevant. What is important is the first  harun   Oct-10-07 11:55 AM   #105 
  - They're certainly more relevant than 100 people voting in a DU poll.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 12:05 PM   #107 
     - Not to the point being made by the OP they are not and that  harun   Oct-10-07 12:20 PM   #115 
        - The point being made by the OP is apparently that a few DU polls represent  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 12:33 PM   #121 
  - Useless  kenfrequed   Oct-10-07 11:58 AM   #106 
  - Good plan; I will not support HRC under any circumstance. nm  NoFederales   Oct-10-07 10:15 AM   #88 
  - this is exactly why we need instant run off voting.  toadzilla   Oct-10-07 11:03 AM   #91 
  - I've been sounding the IRV trumpet for years ...  Martin Eden   Oct-10-07 12:43 PM   #124 
  - Wall street & the corporate media cabal (cmc)  xxqqqzme   Oct-10-07 11:10 AM   #92 
  - The simple answers  MsMagnificent   Oct-10-07 11:20 AM   #95 
  - Ed Schultz did a straw poll on Friday asking who people would vote for  AllyCat   Oct-10-07 11:55 AM   #104 
  - I Agree With All You Have Said & I Too As Woman Just Find Her  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 02:17 PM   #131 
  - This thread is proof that lots of people on DU have never taken Statistics  LeftCoast   Oct-10-07 11:24 AM   #96 
  - Wishful thinking trumps logic.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 11:49 AM   #103 
  - And Desperation Trumps Almost Everything Else!! If I Can Help Stop  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 12:24 PM   #117 
  - Every Idea Starts Really Small... Ideas CAN Grow!!! n/t  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 12:14 PM   #113 
  - What A Phenomenal Suggestion And/Or Idea!! I KNOW I've Run Into  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 11:29 AM   #99 
  - K & R Like A Sonofabitch!  Dinger   Oct-10-07 11:48 AM   #102 
  - I'm with you.  Duncan   Oct-10-07 12:10 PM   #110 
  - Al Gore!  meowomon   Oct-10-07 12:12 PM   #111 
  - Ga-Ga Gore!!  Swamp Rat   Oct-10-07 12:25 PM   #119 
  - But if we had Rethugs posing as Dems on this anonymous chat board they could skew the results  NNN0LHI   Oct-10-07 12:14 PM   #112 
  - I Think We Already Have Them OR At The Very Least PAID Hillary  ChiciB1   Oct-10-07 12:21 PM   #116 
  - The polls were simply an experiment to judge if I was  rateyes   Oct-10-07 12:24 PM   #118 
     - "the majority of Democrats find the most objectionable"  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 01:17 PM   #125 
     - Stop Making Things Up  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-10-07 06:25 PM   #141 
  - DENNIS IS THE ONE  mastrmassr   Oct-10-07 12:40 PM   #123 
  - I would support Edwards should he not get the Dem nomination and runs as an Indy  EVDebs   Oct-10-07 01:35 PM   #127 
  - Her base is larger than 33%. Try 50% nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Oct-10-07 01:36 PM   #128 
  - I don't think so. 'An inch deep and a mile wide' commitments off the cuff nt  EVDebs   Oct-10-07 01:37 PM   #129 
     - Closer to 50% than 33%. 47% at the moment, on average.  TwilightZone   Oct-10-07 03:59 PM   #132 
  - Hillary has what W. had in 2000--name recognition. Clinton/Bush--former president's names help.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-10-07 02:11 PM   #130 
  - She will win  CrispyQGirl   Oct-10-07 04:38 PM   #135 
  - That's interesting because I live in the South and I and many of my  MasonJar   Oct-10-07 05:02 PM   #136 
  - NO. I'm just as opposed to the #2 as Clinton. Only Kucinich or Edwards  bjobotts   Oct-10-07 05:59 PM   #139 
  - Another rec from me...  redqueen   Oct-10-07 06:15 PM   #140 
  - Sensational, thoughtful analysis  Mike03   Oct-10-07 07:17 PM   #144 
  - Pulling together all the opposition to Hillary  creeksneakers2   Oct-10-07 08:00 PM   #145 
  - Kick because Thom Hartman is talking about this post.  Opposite Reaction   Oct-11-07 01:13 PM   #147 
 

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