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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:37 PM
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22. While the Old American Republic was a relative force for enlightenment
principles of the Rule of Law, Equal Justice and Liberty over Tyranny, I owuld have said this was a most terrible idea and that the Civil War was fully justified to save it for the world.

Now, I am not so sure. Sentimentally, along with the slim hope that the Old Republic of America can still be restored, makes me reject the idea knee-jerk fashion.

This is a tough one, but as it becomes clearer (IF it becomes clearer instead of reversing course) that the Old Republic is now the Evil Empire, so to speak, maybe Balkanization by hook or by crook isn't so bad.

Who's to say? Peak Oil and Global Warming will force the issue, maybe within 50 years or less, so Balkanization may arrive out of resource poverty and necessity.

Glad I won't be around to see it.
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  -Several States Are Discussing Secession From The United States babylonsister  Oct-04-07 03:34 PM   #0 
  - Very interesting.  saracat   Oct-04-07 03:37 PM   #1 
  - We are devo! n/t  Fredda Weinberg   Oct-04-07 03:39 PM   #2 
  - I look forward to my taxes being spent on something constructive!  mediaman007   Oct-04-07 03:41 PM   #3 
  - You mean New England?  Clark2008   Oct-04-07 03:59 PM   #9 
  - The term actually began in Harlan Kentucky  Toots   Oct-04-07 04:19 PM   #13 
     - That is interesting. Thanks. n/t  renie408   Oct-04-07 04:38 PM   #24 
  - Gee, could you explain the 'leaving' part to all the other rude Yankees that have moved down here?  renie408   Oct-04-07 04:37 PM   #23 
  - sounds like the Republic of Texas  MrCoffee   Oct-04-07 03:43 PM   #4 
  - That works for Calif.  mitchtv   Oct-04-07 03:46 PM   #5 
  - We should add Oregon and Washington too.  alittlelark   Oct-04-07 03:47 PM   #6 
  - South Carolina has had articles of secession drawn up  China_cat   Oct-04-07 03:49 PM   #7 
  - Been there. Done that.  NoPasaran   Oct-04-07 03:51 PM   #8 
  - Vermont too.  Chipper Chat   Oct-04-07 04:05 PM   #11 
  - should such a thing happen  angrycarpenter   Oct-04-07 04:01 PM   #10 
  - and rightly so?n and anyone that raises a weapon to try and  NavyDavy   Oct-04-07 04:06 PM   #12 
  - Define rightly.  backscatter712   Oct-04-07 04:34 PM   #17 
     - Probably because we already fought a civil war.  geomon666   Oct-04-07 04:37 PM   #21 
  - Bah, didn't stop the Eastern Bloc countries from leaving the control of the USSR.  Selatius   Oct-04-07 04:32 PM   #16 
  - assume texas broke away  angrycarpenter   Oct-04-07 04:50 PM   #34 
     - Your scenario is unrealistic, and I refuse to entertain it.  Selatius   Oct-04-07 05:59 PM   #35 
        - of course it's unrealistic  angrycarpenter   Oct-04-07 06:16 PM   #37 
  - Depends on what happens though  knight_of_the_star   Oct-04-07 06:05 PM   #36 
  - This is what the Rs are up to. Then they get all the Fed land and minerals in the West!  L. Coyote   Oct-04-07 04:20 PM   #14 
  - Are the "states" (state gov't officials) officially discussing it  Lex   Oct-04-07 04:23 PM   #15 
  - Just two different wacked out groups meeting and dreaming.  geomon666   Oct-04-07 04:34 PM   #18 
     - It may be two wacked out groups  cali   Oct-04-07 04:35 PM   #19 
        - Well by all means, go ahead and try it.  geomon666   Oct-04-07 04:40 PM   #26 
           - Excuse me? Did I say I supported it?  cali   Oct-04-07 04:44 PM   #29 
              - I didn't say you did.  geomon666   Oct-04-07 04:48 PM   #32 
  - The Southern states would implode within five minutes without their constant fix of Federal money.  Perry Logan   Oct-04-07 04:36 PM   #20 
  - While the Old American Republic was a relative force for enlightenment  tom_paine   Oct-04-07 04:37 PM   #22 
  - what if i'm in a state that wants to secede  Southpawkicker   Oct-04-07 04:39 PM   #25 
  - Here in Baja Canada...  warren pease   Oct-04-07 04:41 PM   #27 
  - Do you think they are serious? ARE THEY serious?  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-04-07 04:43 PM   #28 
  - Yes, in Vermont they're serious.  cali   Oct-04-07 04:46 PM   #31 
     - a catalyst, always,....for whom i do not know,...  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-04-07 06:24 PM   #39 
  - yeah, right that will happen.  book_worm   Oct-04-07 04:45 PM   #30 
  - We've been on top of this since yesterday  KamaAina   Oct-04-07 04:48 PM   #33 
  - The League of the South are neo-Confederates and racists  underpants   Oct-04-07 06:23 PM   #38 
  - I wish VA would secede  48percenter   Oct-04-07 06:27 PM   #40 
  - There'd be a double secession in New England  D__S   Oct-04-07 07:20 PM   #41 
  - Oh brother.... sigh.  lonestarnot   Oct-04-07 07:25 PM   #42 

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