Reply #27: Sure. Because voting for a corporate-favoring windsock makes PERFECT SENSE!!!

[HughBeaumont]

I love the "loyalty oath" posts, as if we really DON'T know what this is all about.

This is all about "You're GOING to get a DLC candidate. You're GOING to get Hillary. You might as well accept it, because it's going to happen. And should it happen, you'd better choose and choose correctly, unless you want to get your Democratic card revoked!"

Um, NO. I don't have to do shit except stay half-Italian and DIE.

Here's the deal. I know I'LL be working to keep Madam Windsock out of the primary.

But if you're asking me to get behind a Hillary Clinton candidacy should my efforts fail, I'm not doing it.

I DO NOT SUPPORT CANDIDATES THAT THINK THERE ARE POSITIVES TO JOB OFFSHORING!

I DO NOT SUPPORT CANDIDATES THAT GIVE THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY THE GREEN LIGHT TO ATTACK SOVERIGN NATIONS!

I'm also sick of the "if I knew then" defense. If you knew WHAT? What 23 Dem senators already knew? That Bewsh and his administration was/are lying sacks of monkeyshit who wanted this illegal occupation since they captured the Blight House? That Bewsh was going to win both elections come hell or high water whether we wanted it or not for this very purpose?

Shit, a damned satirical newspaper got it . . . IN the beginning of 2001, no less. What did NO one understand about the way a Reagan-redux presidency operates going into this?

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

Sorry, Hillary's whole candidacy and the constant barrage of trolling, finger-wagging and tsk-tsking by her loyal supporters smacks of the SAME damned inevitability that we were resigned to with the Failure Fuhrer. I ain't doing it.

Let's toss aside the IWR vote, which don't get me wrong is a sore spot.

It's her trade position, which you gotta admit isn't exactly worker-friendly. Ohio (especially Cuyahoga County) has bled so many jobs, white and blue collar, due to free-trade policies which she continues to support and make no apologies for supporting (it dumbfounds me that ANY union would endorse her when she's made it clear she loves free trade, wants to increase H1B and L1 visas and wouldn't change the disastrous-for-the-working-classes NAFTA). There AREN'T two sides to outsourcing as she has claimed (look to my journal or previous posts, I have links). This practice DOES NOT work for Joe Dayjob; it only benefits the wealthy of the countries involved. She's WRONG on this issue.

And until she starts making a strong stand for worker protections, some compromise in amending the existing lousy trade agreements her husband signed and his friend's (41) administration authored and stands against greedy corporations and the Republicans that run them, I can't get behind that.

It's so important and critical for the future of the youth of this country that economic fairness be stressed as a top priority. You cannot have politicians and leaders keep telling America's young to go into Math and Science and Technology as a career, when the reality is, they'll likely already be priced out of a job when they graduate thanks to cheap offshore labor. Right now we simply don't have fairness or any kind of a plan to amend this course of rotten and it's getting worse. I'm not convinced that a Hillary presidency is going to change that.

Then there's the "well, that's the best you can HOPE for" argument.

Bills don't get paid on HOPE. Economies cannot recover on HOPE. People who aren't meant to go to diploma mill colleges can't just HOPE they'll qualify for a job that pays at least a liveable wage. 47 million people shouldn't have to go to sleep at night HOPING they'll not have a debilitating illness that bankrupts their entire family.

American soldiers can't HOPE they'll be done with this useless tax-wasting MORGUE they're unfortunately sewn up in.

There needs to be a plan to revive the economy to accommodate ALL workers, not just toss your hands in the air and give up. There needs to be a PLAN for single-payer health care system, not a shrug, sigh and a "Oh well, that's just the way it is". You want to know WHY all those jobs went overseas . . . one of the main reasons is that Big Insurance frowns on single payer, therefore the employer ends up holding the bag. I WANT to pay taxes to help myself, my family and my fellow citizens, not funnel it in the pockets of the Bushes, Cheneys, Rices and Chertoffs via the Pentasewer.

There needs to be a PLAN to BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME!

I WANT a candidate that doesn't support corporate rights over human rights. I DON'T think that's too damned much to ask or expect from a DEMOCRATIC candidate. Hillary has not at ALL proven to me through her actions and statements that she can stand up to corporations or the MIC.

And FYI, I VOTED for Gore. I VOTED for and supported Kerry because at least he was honest, albeit a bad campaigner.

Hillary is just a baggage-ridden windsock who takes no strong progressive STANDS on anything.

And I'm frankly SICK of capitulating. I'm SICK of America's royalty worship, I'm SICK of corporations and I'm completely fucking SICK of Americans who AREN'T WILLING TO INSTITUTE CHANGE.

Over and over and over again until Dumberica gets it right, I guess: DON'T vote against your best interests.