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Thu Oct-04-07 12:35 AM
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| 10. I have always aimed that word at George W. Bush as a whore of the Saudis. |
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How offended are you about that?
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| -Hillary Clinton is not a whore! |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:29 AM |
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Agreed. I can't stand her. But she is not a whore. |
AllyCat |
Oct-04-07 12:30 AM |
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I would say 'beholden' is a better word... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:33 AM |
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or men |
Clovis Sangrail |
Oct-04-07 12:32 AM |
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She is a politician, |
rusty quoin |
Oct-04-07 12:32 AM |
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WTF? No BODY called her that ... talk about setting up a straw-man argument just |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-04-07 12:33 AM |
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She's been called that at least twice in one thread in the last few minutes... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:34 AM |
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Yes she has. Pathetic. |
Beausoir |
Oct-04-07 12:37 AM |
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Well, it's not rampant! They're not calling her this in the cornfields of Nebraska yet? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-04-07 12:38 AM |
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In the cornfields of Nebraska |
huskerlaw |
Oct-04-07 11:38 AM |
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She was called a corporate "whore" not a "whore" |
kdmorris |
Oct-04-07 05:23 AM |
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big difference btwn "corporate whore" and "whore" -- but, don't let that get in the way |
nashville_brook |
Oct-04-07 12:14 PM |
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common sense so rare these days. |
AuntPatsy |
Oct-04-07 01:27 PM |
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How about corporate whore? |
Nutmegger |
Oct-04-07 12:34 AM |
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Yes n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:35 AM |
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Perhaps a DLC Clintonian Corporate Whore? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-04-07 12:39 AM |
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Still offensive no matter the attempts made to justify using it n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:44 AM |
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Tough! It's gender neutral - descriptive and quite accurate. CORPORATE WHORE! |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-04-07 12:48 AM |
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Gender neutral my ass... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:52 AM |
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Rudy G is a money-grubbing media whore. |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 01:13 AM |
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When do you ever see DUers call male Dems whores? |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 06:25 AM |
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Now we are narrowing the offensiveness only when relating to Dem candidates? |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 08:27 AM |
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When that person is the ONLY female in the race, yes. n/t |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 09:17 AM |
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I have seen the term used often in reference to Dems such as.. |
youthere |
Oct-04-07 08:29 AM |
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Again, why isn't the term applied to other Dem candidates who |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 09:19 AM |
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I've heard it used in reference to Obama and Edwards... |
youthere |
Oct-04-07 09:51 AM |
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Bill Clinton was a corporate whore too, for that matter. Exactly |
coalition_unwilling |
Oct-04-07 12:38 PM |
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How bout polititcians are whores? |
BoneDaddy |
Oct-04-07 12:40 PM |
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It's being applied to her b/c she's DLC, not b/c of her gender |
silverojo |
Oct-04-07 04:05 AM |
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It's not gender neutral. The word whore historically has been associated |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 06:22 AM |
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It is gender neutral. Do you think men can't be corporate whores?n/t |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:53 AM |
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To Quote Green Day: |
YOY |
Oct-04-07 10:52 AM |
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wouldn't it be |
durrrty libby |
Oct-04-07 11:28 AM |
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I just cut and pasted it from a lyrics page |
YOY |
Oct-04-07 11:33 AM |
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I always heard that lyric as "who", not "he". |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 11:48 AM |
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I though the next two lines were |
YOY |
Oct-04-07 12:19 PM |
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Well, to be honest... |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 12:28 PM |
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Common misinterpretation of that lyric |
Chovexani |
Oct-04-07 01:07 PM |
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Sorry if you find it offensive to you, personally. |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:53 AM |
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Bingo nt |
lateo |
Oct-04-07 08:06 AM |
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Oct-04-07 08:30 AM |
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link? |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:34 AM |
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Here: |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:35 AM |
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ah thanks. |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:38 AM |
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Oh...what a lovely distinction. Calling a woman a WHORE is okay with you then. |
Beausoir |
Oct-04-07 12:40 AM |
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do you have a reading comprehension problem? |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:43 AM |
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This is what you said... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:49 AM |
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nope, I think i'm being pretty clear. |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 01:00 AM |
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look it up in any modern dictionary... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 01:07 AM |
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yup, you've pretty much confirmed with this post you are intentionally |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 01:09 AM |
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Terms also have figurative meanings, you know. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Oct-04-07 02:08 AM |
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... |
ellisonz |
Oct-04-07 02:39 AM |
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The INHERENT context of "corporate whore" makes it clear which definition is in use. |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 09:42 AM |
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Most of the candidates are beholden... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:40 AM |
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another reading comprehension problem |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:45 AM |
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So is that your justification for using such an offensive word? n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:44 AM |
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no, again, you are mischaracterizing what I said, TWICE |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:46 AM |
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I have always aimed that word at George W. Bush as a whore of the Saudis. |
Cleita |
Oct-04-07 12:35 AM |
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I'm offended by the use of 'whore', 'slut' and others... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:37 AM |
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So what do we call George W. Bush, the subordinate |
Cleita |
Oct-04-07 12:39 AM |
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The name you use is your choice... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:43 AM |
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Bill's a corporate whore too |
sandnsea |
Oct-04-07 12:35 AM |
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I am a whore and I find that to be offensive... |
mikelewis |
Oct-04-07 12:38 AM |
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Excuse me, but if you're referring to the term "corporate whore," |
blonndee |
Oct-04-07 12:39 AM |
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Agreed. It is an apt description with the addition of the |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 12:41 AM |
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No, she's not... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:45 AM |
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What's offensive is her corporate whoring. n/t |
blonndee |
Oct-04-07 12:48 AM |
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2 ass wipes on a thread call her a corporate whore and you see this as a movement? |
seriousstan |
Oct-04-07 12:40 AM |
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It's been going on a while now... |
cynatnite |
Oct-04-07 12:46 AM |
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oh, that title is just too easy to have fun with......naw, i won't this time... |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-04-07 12:46 AM |
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its not really that fun to have arguments with people ill equipped to even |
Lerkfish |
Oct-04-07 12:47 AM |
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I'm trying to follow suit but ohhhh I can't help myself! |
Kiouni |
Oct-04-07 03:26 AM |
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Has she changed her allegiances? Great news! |
ConsAreLiars |
Oct-04-07 12:49 AM |
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Ok, how about Corporate Shill, or is that too close to Shrill? |
whoneedstickets |
Oct-04-07 12:49 AM |
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"or is that too close to shrill" |
blonndee |
Oct-04-07 12:51 AM |
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i have to agree with Short and Firey's description of Clintonian DLC corporate whore... |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-04-07 12:52 AM |
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Obama's been called "a special interest whore" |
Semper_FiFi |
Oct-04-07 11:46 AM |
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we are NOT The Judean People's Front |
Clovis Sangrail |
Oct-04-07 01:08 AM |
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From DU's rules: |
Kurovski |
Oct-04-07 02:11 AM |
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Thank you for this! It's nice to know that the Admin is ok with corporate whore. Now |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Oct-04-07 06:12 AM |
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Wow... the rules are quoted right frickin here... but STILL |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:55 AM |
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I still find the term sexist and offensive - despite the rules |
tigereye |
Oct-04-07 10:50 AM |
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You want everyone to stop using "corporate whore"? |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 10:59 AM |
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no, just don't like the term "whore" applied so liberally and indiscriminately |
tigereye |
Oct-04-07 12:23 PM |
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So only women can be whores? |
provis99 |
Oct-04-07 02:39 AM |
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No, the word has a long historical use referring to women. |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 09:26 AM |
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Yes, it's absurd to pretend that the word is no longer about women |
spoony |
Oct-04-07 10:56 AM |
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I'm fine with that as long as we also stick with the historical gender of "President" |
jgraz |
Oct-04-07 11:46 AM |
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"it was meant to evoke the image of a female prostitute" |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 11:50 AM |
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From what I see it is inescapably about women |
spoony |
Oct-04-07 12:20 PM |
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I disagree completely. |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 12:21 PM |
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I'm sorry but the sting in that phrase has a very plain history |
spoony |
Oct-04-07 12:29 PM |
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I think what we're doing is estimating how many people |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 12:38 PM |
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*shrug* |
spoony |
Oct-04-07 12:45 PM |
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I can't. Context is key. |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 12:49 PM |
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I know! |
tigereye |
Oct-04-07 12:29 PM |
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Is it true? |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 12:39 PM |
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I'm messin with ya a little here, RQ |
tigereye |
Oct-04-07 01:44 PM |
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"Whore" is aimed at both men and women |
silverojo |
Oct-04-07 04:04 AM |
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She's a politician accepting money from various corporations, |
MadHound |
Oct-04-07 05:45 AM |
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Yep. D.C. is a "red light district" ... especially K Street. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-04-07 11:00 AM |
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The words "whore," "slut," "bitch" etc. are certainly offensive... |
Nabeshin |
Oct-04-07 05:58 AM |
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If you enjoy offending women, which you apparently do. n/t |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 09:25 AM |
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I wonder if Isaiah Thomas would agree with you? |
durrrty libby |
Oct-04-07 11:37 AM |
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It's misogyny. Right-wingers are all misogynists--and so, evidently, are a fair number of DUers. |
Perry Logan |
Oct-04-07 06:03 AM |
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Thinly veiled callout there Perry. Misogony => Right winger => DU'ers |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 08:17 AM |
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Oh for God's sake. Do you think only women can be whores? |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:56 AM |
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I don't see it as a sexist term. That's your opinion. |
Kahuna |
Oct-04-07 06:12 AM |
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Oct-04-07 08:59 AM |
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"This s#@t on hear is rediculous" |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 09:19 AM |
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It's acceptable as per DU's rules. |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:54 AM |
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I agree. Calling a woman like Hillary a whore is just as offensive |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-07 09:23 AM |
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Definition for ya... |
BushDespiser12 |
Oct-04-07 09:33 AM |
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See post 49. And men can be whores too... what does it make a person |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 09:57 AM |
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well there's corporate tool, shill, or slave |
Neo |
Oct-04-07 09:50 AM |
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Perhaps you should take this up with Skinner. Because he makes the rules here. |
MilesColtrane |
Oct-04-07 10:08 AM |
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"Constructive criticism of Democrats or the Democratic Party is permitted" |
spoony |
Oct-04-07 11:00 AM |
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k&r |
Katherine Brengle |
Oct-04-07 10:09 AM |
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Congratulations on getting a thread to the greatest page that has "Hillary" and |
yodermon |
Oct-04-07 10:12 AM |
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How the HELL are people voting for this BS? |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 10:36 AM |
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DU Rules: |
Hissyspit |
Oct-04-07 10:16 AM |
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The correct term is |
Le Taz Hot |
Oct-04-07 10:27 AM |
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more like a corporate strumpet i suppose.... |
dionysus |
Oct-04-07 10:37 AM |
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Oct-04-07 10:45 AM |
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Dude, if you keep insulting the Mods, it won't be your choice to "stop posting" the insults. |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 10:54 AM |
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Nice granite cookie recipe. n/t |
MilesColtrane |
Oct-04-07 11:04 AM |
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Is, too. nt |
piedmont |
Oct-04-07 11:01 AM |
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You people don't even know how unintentionally funny this thread is! |
babylonsister |
Oct-04-07 11:01 AM |
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Hilary's HealthCare(?) Plan is much more offensive |
bvar22 |
Oct-04-07 11:09 AM |
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It's not an offensive term against women. |
Feron |
Oct-04-07 11:25 AM |
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On what planet, pal? |
Elspeth |
Oct-04-07 11:28 AM |
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And this somehow means we need to change the language? |
jgraz |
Oct-04-07 11:44 AM |
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"I swear, we should have a basic logic test before people can post on this board." |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 11:53 AM |
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So, how many male prostitutes do you think there are? |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 11:54 AM |
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On ANY planet where the dominant species has a grasp of CONTEXT. |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 11:55 AM |
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Leave Hillary Alone |
aikoaiko |
Oct-04-07 11:36 AM |
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Bastard. I was just going to post that. |
jgraz |
Oct-04-07 11:44 AM |
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You bastard whore prick slut !! |
Kurovski |
Oct-04-07 01:09 PM |
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Its ok, I can tolerate your language because thats all it is -- plus its just a metaphor. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-04-07 01:26 PM |
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I'm sorry, I thought I just saw some non-hysterical logic on DU |
jgraz |
Oct-04-07 01:36 PM |
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Depends on its usage |
huskerlaw |
Oct-04-07 11:41 AM |
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Of course you are correct and Bravo for this thread |
durrrty libby |
Oct-04-07 11:44 AM |
#113 |
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Actually not "correct" at all, since no one called her that. |
dicksteele |
Oct-04-07 12:21 PM |
#130 |
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Those of us who have been stretched unitl their bones crack on the rack of misery |
truedelphi |
Oct-04-07 11:46 AM |
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She panders to the corporates and the DLC |
RiverStone |
Oct-04-07 11:52 AM |
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Do you object to the term "corporate whore"? Cause nobody called her a "whore". |
redqueen |
Oct-04-07 11:55 AM |
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She's a pandering politician. Which is the reverse of what whores do. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-04-07 11:54 AM |
#123 |
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Praise Kucinich and pass the Everlasting Gobstoppers |
BrightKnight |
Oct-04-07 12:30 PM |
#135 |
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I believe there is a hide thread feature |
Neo |
Oct-04-07 12:33 PM |
#136 |
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Leave Hillary alone! |
stimbox |
Oct-04-07 12:33 PM |
#137 |
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I prefer "war monger" myself, as that is gender neutral. -n/t |
coalition_unwilling |
Oct-04-07 12:36 PM |
#138 |
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And LBJ's opponent didn't have sex with livestock. n/t |
ieoeja |
Oct-04-07 12:41 PM |
#143 |
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I think most of the people who call her a whore do so not because she is female, |
Puregonzo1188 |
Oct-04-07 01:28 PM |
#150 |
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I think its pretty obvious that she is not. |
AuntPatsy |
Oct-04-07 01:37 PM |
#152 |
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Locking. |
pinto |
Oct-04-07 02:26 PM |
#154 |
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