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26. True according to you. That would be an "opinion."
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  -The best trick the GOP ever pulled: getting leftists to blame the Democrats for bad GOP policies jpgray  Oct-03-07 01:53 PM   #0 
  - Right on ...  NanceGreggs   Oct-03-07 02:04 PM   #1 
  - Because leftists don't want to just shut up until Nov 2008 and take it.  Kagemusha   Oct-03-07 02:05 PM   #2 
  - I blame the Democrats who vote with/enable the Republicans.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-03-07 02:05 PM   #3 
  - Amen! While our "opposition" party is far from perfect...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-03-07 02:08 PM   #4 
  - Succinctly stated and,...true.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 02:28 PM   #21 
  - True according to you. That would be an "opinion."  Raster   Oct-03-07 02:35 PM   #26 
     - Yup. It is true to me. That's truth enough. nt  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 02:37 PM   #27 
  - Right now there is no opposition party. But I agree, we need to take back the dem party  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 04:10 PM   #73 
  - The first step in "repairing" it  OzarkDem   Oct-03-07 04:40 PM   #84 
  - I'm WAITING FOR opposition  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:37 AM   #103 
  - Now that we control Congress, every piece of bad legislation the direct fault of the Dem Leadership  tritsofme   Oct-03-07 02:08 PM   #5 
  - That's the way I see it  Nite Owl   Oct-03-07 02:28 PM   #22 
  - Sshh!!! You're not supposed to bring that up... It interferes with the GO TEAM GO bullshit!  Raster   Oct-03-07 02:31 PM   #23 
  - ....  sniffa   Oct-03-07 02:37 PM   #28 
  - Indeed.  lateo   Oct-05-07 11:47 AM   #112 
  - That's fair enough. Do you think the fractured nature of the party influences the leadership?  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:19 PM   #48 
     - It's the ones with large piles of CASH  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:38 AM   #104 
  - So my team is right no matter what  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 02:11 PM   #6 
  - quiet you  sniffa   Oct-03-07 02:13 PM   #8 
  - There is some truth to that  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 02:18 PM   #14 
     - It's interesting to hear this  Oak2004   Oct-05-07 04:25 PM   #118 
  - I guess brown shirts are ok as long as their our brown shirts.  mod mom   Oct-03-07 02:46 PM   #32 
  - But we have a better taste in tailor for the brown shirts  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 03:02 PM   #37 
  - I came here as an activist to get the word out about a Fight for Democracy Rally  mod mom   Oct-03-07 03:15 PM   #44 
  - Well said, the cancer is the DLC  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 03:23 PM   #51 
     - Your posts, as well as Understanding Life's, Octafish, Seemslikeadream and others  mod mom   Oct-03-07 03:48 PM   #64 
        - Strategy is still a matter of course.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 04:01 PM   #70 
           - Given how much the DLC shares  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 04:04 PM   #71 
           - Can we be more specific than merely "DLC" because I have seen members,...  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 05:19 PM   #86 
              - It's been done before  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-05-07 01:16 AM   #110 
           - I never suggested allowing a GOP candidate to win. I am suggested that GOP and DLC  mod mom   Oct-03-07 09:24 PM   #92 
              - I'm sorry. I never intended to accuse you of that. You are NOT that.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-04-07 06:03 PM   #93 
  - Oops...dupe.  mod mom   Oct-03-07 03:15 PM   #45 
  - Spot on. It's a difficult issue to addresss...  Union Thug   Oct-03-07 03:29 PM   #53 
     - We may be in the midst of a perfect storm  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 03:42 PM   #61 
     - You make a good point.  Union Thug   Oct-03-07 03:52 PM   #66 
     - It's actually MILLIONS  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:41 AM   #105 
     - We "feel betrayed" because we were betrayed.  mod mom   Oct-03-07 04:13 PM   #76 
     - OH '04 + party silence. I was a former straight party voter, but now I'd rather  mod mom   Oct-03-07 04:11 PM   #75 
        - I principle, I agree with you. But the futility of the act is  Union Thug   Oct-03-07 04:35 PM   #82 
  - Who are you talking to? I've said none of this.  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:12 PM   #42 
     - When you edited the OP it helped to clarify the message  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 03:40 PM   #59 
  - Looks to me like  MuseRider   Oct-03-07 02:12 PM   #7 
  - bingo  sniffa   Oct-03-07 02:14 PM   #9 
     - Ahh give it time  MuseRider   Oct-03-07 02:28 PM   #20 
  - Read Marx  Zensea   Oct-03-07 02:15 PM   #10 
  - A great activist and political thinker, Marx, but not the best strategist  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:08 PM   #40 
  - Agreed  Zensea   Oct-03-07 03:20 PM   #49 
  - Being a good strategist in a corrupt system  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:43 AM   #106 
  - Not A Very Good Fit With The Present Sitiation, Mr. Zensea  The Magistrate   Oct-05-07 12:22 PM   #113 
     - How is it not a fit then?  Zensea   Oct-05-07 02:17 PM   #114 
        - Those People Are Not Revolutionists, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-05-07 03:02 PM   #115 
           - That's why I put revolutionists in quotes  Zensea   Oct-05-07 03:21 PM   #117 
  - The 2nd best was getting Democrats like you to refer to liberals as "leftists".  Beelzebud   Oct-03-07 02:16 PM   #11 
  - No kidding!  MuseRider   Oct-03-07 02:25 PM   #19 
  - Yikes! I never even thought about that. Most liberals are NOT "leftists".  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 02:31 PM   #24 
  - What nonsense. Check out TahitiNut's political compass thread. We -are- leftists  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:00 PM   #35 
     - NO!!! I AM NOT A "LEFTIST"!!!! I AM NOT AS EXTREME AS THE RIGHT WING!!!!  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:08 PM   #39 
        - Yes, those violent destructive leftists in Sandinavia really bear out your theory  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:10 PM   #41 
           - Standard english vocabulary. Who LABELED them "leftist"?  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:18 PM   #47 
              - "Left," according to the OED, is a catch-all term for socialists, communists, and liberals  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:24 PM   #52 
                 - That is way too broad and an all-consuming deft vulnerable to attack by anyone.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:36 PM   #56 
                    - Why are you letting the right-wing marketing machine redefine a word's 200 year-old meaning for you?  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:38 PM   #57 
                    - HUH? UH, I came AFTER the age of reason and am capable of distinction, whereas,...  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:51 PM   #65 
                    - Here are some radicals you may be familiar  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 03:54 PM   #68 
                       - NONE OF WHOM OWNED A BRAIN-WASHING VEHICLE (the media)!!! It is a different age.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 04:13 PM   #77 
                       - They didn't have a brain washing media?  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 04:27 PM   #80 
                          - I have no problem, whatsoever, with how you choose to identify yourself.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 05:28 PM   #87 
                       - btw I am repulsed by the attempt to shut me down with your final accusation "round these parts".  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 04:19 PM   #78 
  - If the congress backs his policies or allows his crimes,  mmonk   Oct-03-07 02:16 PM   #12 
  - yup. now we are responsible for the war, state of health care etc.  lionesspriyanka   Oct-03-07 02:17 PM   #13 
  - Sorry, but the leader of the corporatist Dems has been anointed as our candidate...  Romulox   Oct-03-07 02:19 PM   #15 
  - but she has not won yet  hfojvt   Oct-03-07 02:39 PM   #30 
  - K & R n/t  Zandor   Oct-03-07 02:20 PM   #16 
  - The best trick was turning the Democratic leadership against its Base.  The Stranger   Oct-03-07 02:21 PM   #17 
  - Unfortunately they seem to have PLENTY of collaborators.  Raster   Oct-03-07 02:32 PM   #25 
  - "they have plenty"???? Examples?????? eom  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 02:38 PM   #29 
     - more than half of the senate dems voted against the moveon ad. same with war funding.  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 04:11 PM   #74 
        - Why are you responding? Are you acting in stead of the poster I asked? nt  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 04:21 PM   #79 
           - because this is a conversation. a forum to discuss progressive politics. that is what we do.  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 04:35 PM   #81 
              - Is "democratic" speaking on another's behalf without election to do so?  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 05:14 PM   #85 
  - Which Democrats? How many? All of them? Should those Democrats define the party?  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:39 PM   #58 
  - They, uh, kinda' operate like that devil they "say" they battle, huh.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 02:25 PM   #18 
  - But it's the party of slavery lovers and war mongerers...  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 02:41 PM   #31 
  - When they stand up for me...  ljm2002   Oct-03-07 02:53 PM   #33 
  - Some of them -are- standing up for you. Some of them aren't.  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:16 PM   #46 
     - Did you miss the part...  ljm2002   Oct-03-07 03:46 PM   #63 
  - Do the Democrats want leftists to VOTE for them, or not?  Lilith Velkor   Oct-03-07 02:56 PM   #34 
  - thought not a perfect fit, this thread reminds me of my other thread  Lerkfish   Oct-03-07 03:02 PM   #36 
  - There is no call to blind loyalty or criticism censorship in this thread. Yet I'm accused of such.  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:03 PM   #38 
  - If your intentions are true, no need to invest in either of those criticisms.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:12 PM   #43 
  - Hear! Hear!  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-03-07 03:23 PM   #50 
  - Do you have any links (other than this rediculous OP)  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:50 AM   #107 
  - I don't blame the Dems  GTRMAN   Oct-03-07 03:32 PM   #54 
  - Absolutely. Every reasonable person has this viewpoint  jpgray   Oct-03-07 03:33 PM   #55 
     - that's a tough choice  GTRMAN   Oct-03-07 03:41 PM   #60 
     - Maybe, one is "imperfect" while the other is "destructive".  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:43 PM   #62 
  - They figure it's worth a shot ...  lpbk2713   Oct-03-07 03:54 PM   #67 
  - "So when exactly did we decide that a minority of ambitious, enabling cowards defined the entire  Skidmore   Oct-03-07 04:00 PM   #69 
  - Here's the problem with your analysis: the facts. If it were only a minority of  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 04:09 PM   #72 
  - DLC Dems stick close to GOP in policy and talking points  OzarkDem   Oct-03-07 04:35 PM   #83 
  - Excellent point  creeksneakers2   Oct-03-07 07:47 PM   #88 
  - Bill Clinton SIGNED INTO LAW- Telecom Act of 96, Defense of Marriage Act, Welfare Reform, Nafta...  QuestionAll   Oct-03-07 07:51 PM   #89 
  - Democrats blaming everyone but their own pro-Republican votes...  JackRiddler   Oct-03-07 08:28 PM   #90 
  - "How does this happen?"  ulysses   Oct-03-07 09:02 PM   #91 
  - Check this shit out  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:56 AM   #108 
  - THANKS Blackwater USAs Creepy Freeper Erik Prince donated to the Greens.  L. Coyote   Oct-04-07 06:20 PM   #94 
  - K & R  L. Coyote   Oct-04-07 07:34 PM   #95 
  - Kick for the evening.  L. Coyote   Oct-04-07 11:41 PM   #100 
  - Getting the Dem leadership to do whatever they say  shadowknows69   Oct-04-07 07:39 PM   #96 
  - I disagree. I don't blame the Democrats for bad GOP policies at all.  Totally Committed   Oct-04-07 07:39 PM   #97 
  - The best trick the DLC ever pulled:  stimbox   Oct-04-07 07:51 PM   #98 
  - I think the getting "Democrats" to carry water for them trick was much more impressive  JVS   Oct-04-07 07:52 PM   #99 
  - best GOP trick? The DLC!  western mass   Oct-05-07 12:22 AM   #101 
  - Give it a fucking rest... You right-wing Dems  ProudDad   Oct-05-07 12:36 AM   #102 
  - Thanks Dad!  Raster   Oct-05-07 11:05 AM   #111 
  - LOL!  Swamp Rat   Oct-05-07 01:11 AM   #109 
  - Amen, amen, amen! Can I get a witness?  JNelson6563   Oct-05-07 03:04 PM   #116 
  - I seriously believe some of those 'blue dog' DLC types are GOP infiltrators  angstlessk   Oct-05-07 05:13 PM   #119 

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