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102. Remember John DiIulio?
After his autobiographical Vanity Fair article, and his next-day retraction of it, I've been thinking blackmail and extortion (or perhaps even plata y plomo) may be much more involved in Washington affairs than I ever expected. DiIulio described Rove's intense threats into the phone as DiIulio waited outside his office in vivid terms.
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  -SERIOUS Discussion About DEATH THREATS & BLACKMAIL Of Congress. Dems (By Cheney) Beetwasher  Oct-03-07 01:12 PM   #0 
  - I was just thinking about this last night.  quantessd   Oct-03-07 01:17 PM   #1 
  - I agree, with you on Pelosi  againes654   Oct-03-07 01:20 PM   #6 
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  - Well, if that's the case, all the Dems should get together and make an announcement  AndyA   Oct-03-07 01:17 PM   #2 
  - maybe we should put it out there, and question these Senators  alyce douglas   Oct-03-07 01:26 PM   #14 
  - damn straight. the best protection there is is opening your mouth to the press and  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 01:41 PM   #31 
  - Bet it's not themselves they fear for....but family members.  Rene   Oct-03-07 02:05 PM   #51 
     - And quite possibly the country as a whole..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:16 AM   #184 
  - I sugested that to Pelosi in a letter a while back  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 01:57 PM   #48 
  - That clip of Stenny, Harry & Nancy coming out of the WH. .  annabanana   Oct-03-07 02:31 PM   #67 
  - Go ahead and expose them then..  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 02:50 PM   #77 
  - Go public where.......  spokane   Oct-03-07 08:59 PM   #119 
  - Right here would be a start...n/t  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:04 AM   #181 
  - Because I cannot press charges  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 09:29 PM   #141 
     - Who asked you to press charges -- just spill what you think you know and why.  snot   Oct-04-07 12:09 AM   #171 
  - *wtf* Are you blowing smoke? Your posts tend to be 'on board' in attack posts..  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-03-07 03:01 PM   #87 
  - No they are not irrational and it is part of a continuum  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 09:31 PM   #146 
  - The founders put in checks and balances they refuse to use.  mmonk   Oct-03-07 10:19 PM   #168 
  - Oh yeah sure you do. hmmmmmf.  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 09:11 PM   #126 
  - I Agree, However  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:07 PM   #52 
     - We had a back and forth on this  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 09:33 PM   #147 
        - You And I Are Mostly On The Same Page  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 09:36 PM   #152 
           - You never know until you are in that situation  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 09:45 PM   #159 
              - What if they all compared notes and went public together?  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-03-07 10:19 PM   #167 
                 - They should  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-03-07 10:30 PM   #170 
  - While I think some of them are spineless, I do believe some  againes654   Oct-03-07 01:19 PM   #3 
  - I know they fucking better! Or it is war! Monks didn't wear shoes, I have some boots.  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 09:13 PM   #128 
  - I apologize, but I'm going to have to get a little bit tinfoil here..  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 01:20 PM   #4 
  - Things that make ya go hummmmmm  againes654   Oct-03-07 01:22 PM   #8 
  - I respect Congresswoman Harman for speaking out about this  Lone_Star_Dem   Oct-03-07 01:35 PM   #22 
  - I truly think they (Dems) know that they are dealing with evil evil  alyce douglas   Oct-03-07 01:44 PM   #33 
  - I saw Feinstein backtrack on a news show re Cheney when he responded via tape about  terisan   Oct-03-07 02:03 PM   #49 
  - I agree, I saw that Feinstein tape..  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 02:49 PM   #76 
  - I'm wide open to the theory of the thread . . . . unquestionably . . ..  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:20 PM   #108 
  - Money who gives a crap about money.  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 09:15 PM   #129 
  - "Spinelessness and cowardice" does not describe them at all. They are part of the corporatocracy. nt  NotGivingUp   Oct-03-07 01:20 PM   #5 
  - All of them?  cali   Oct-03-07 01:24 PM   #10 
  - No, not all, but most. n/t  NotGivingUp   Oct-03-07 01:29 PM   #17 
  - We also have to be mindful of that -- and I think we are . . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:23 PM   #109 
  - I have been screaming it for months/years.......  OwnedByFerrets   Oct-03-07 01:21 PM   #7 
  - Sorry, no, I don't buy it.  cali   Oct-03-07 01:23 PM   #9 
  - shouLd this thread be moved to the 911geon?  sniffa   Oct-03-07 01:29 PM   #16 
  - Nah. Let the folks who believe this  cali   Oct-03-07 01:34 PM   #21 
  - yeah, very poorLy  sniffa   Oct-03-07 01:37 PM   #25 
     - Because No One In Government Has Ever Been Blackmailed Before  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:39 PM   #27 
     - I think the business about a missile and not a plane hitting the Pentagon  kestrel91316   Oct-03-07 01:53 PM   #45 
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           - right, right  sniffa   Oct-03-07 02:09 PM   #54 
              - LOL!  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:12 PM   #57 
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  - ooh, you showed me  sniffa   Oct-03-07 02:08 PM   #53 
     - Pathetic  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:11 PM   #56 
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  - I agree , it's so pathetic we have to MAKE UP EXCUSES  Generator   Oct-03-07 02:17 PM   #61 
  - What's Pathetic Is Talking About Aliens  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:23 PM   #64 
  - Did Republicans get anthrax packages?  havocmom   Oct-03-07 08:17 PM   #107 
  - Not Buying What?  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:38 PM   #26 
  - I don't buy that all the dems are being  cali   Oct-03-07 01:40 PM   #29 
     - Who Said ALL Of Them?  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:42 PM   #32 
        - OK, let me be specific  cali   Oct-03-07 01:45 PM   #35 
           - Fair Enough  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:49 PM   #40 
              - It's always possible, but on a large scale?  cali   Oct-03-07 01:50 PM   #42 
              - Ok  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:52 PM   #44 
              - okay I'll say it...no I don't think its possible  onenote   Oct-03-07 02:36 PM   #68 
                 - "Sue Me"  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:38 PM   #70 
                    - show me some substance -- not just base speculation -- to support the assertion  onenote   Oct-03-07 02:41 PM   #71 
                       - Umm, Too Bad I'm Not Making That Claim  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:48 PM   #75 
                          - here's what I don't think is possible  onenote   Oct-03-07 02:55 PM   #83 
                             - Finally A Somehwat Substantive Answer (And Snark Free To Boot!)  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 03:00 PM   #86 
                             - Sure they are onenote..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:19 AM   #185 
  - Emmanuel has been backtracking on what they are going to do abut the subpoenas . . ...  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:24 PM   #111 
  - What I see is politicians being politicians.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-03-07 01:25 PM   #11 
  - yes, that too.  alyce douglas   Oct-03-07 01:46 PM   #36 
  - I'll take Allegory of the Cave for 100, Bob! nt  iconoclastic cat   Oct-03-07 01:25 PM   #12 
  - I don't doubt it.  backscatter712   Oct-03-07 01:26 PM   #13 
  - Wholeheartedly agree --  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:29 PM   #112 
  - yeah, that's it  sniffa   Oct-03-07 01:27 PM   #15 
  - Nothing Substantive  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 01:40 PM   #28 
  - K&R. n/t  siri2k   Oct-03-07 01:30 PM   #18 
  - Well if they all can't get together and put it out in the open, then they  movonne   Oct-03-07 01:32 PM   #19 
  - J. Edgar Hoover lives! nt  gateley   Oct-03-07 01:33 PM   #20 
  - Who were the first likely targets of the NSA Wiretapping???  alittlelark   Oct-03-07 01:36 PM   #23 
  - Then why the hell didn't they stop it? They voted for the elimination of the fisa courts..  robinlynne   Oct-03-07 01:44 PM   #34 
  - I assume you replied to the wrong post... if not,  alittlelark   Oct-03-07 09:28 PM   #139 
  - Right -- agree, the list is probably "enemies" at home ---  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:32 PM   #113 
  - Baird's 180 made me think the exact same thing  dwp6577   Oct-03-07 01:36 PM   #24 
  - He's my rep too.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-03-07 01:41 PM   #30 
  - Baird is definitely suspect in this regard. Somebody must have dug  wienerdoggie   Oct-03-07 02:21 PM   #63 
  - I don't know about death threats, but blackmail is certainly likely  MiniMe   Oct-03-07 01:46 PM   #37 
  - I am seriously thinking that blackmail is what we're looking at.  seafan   Oct-03-07 01:47 PM   #39 
  - I don't know about death threats..but something is going on.  Bitwit1234   Oct-03-07 01:50 PM   #41 
  - Durbin has confessed that he knew they were lying to us but claimed he could not  terisan   Oct-03-07 01:51 PM   #43 
  - I recall all that; but why didn't the intelligence group get together to challenge Bush????  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:43 PM   #115 
  - Republicans have their own private army now.  Old and In the Way   Oct-03-07 02:03 PM   #50 
  - I'll accept all of that -- the MIIC has a lot at stake as we see from Blackwater-!!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:47 PM   #116 
  - Leahy writes to AG nominee Mukasey with concerns.  babylonsister   Oct-03-07 02:09 PM   #55 
  - Leahy is adorable, but occassionally drives me crazy . . . like this stuff!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:50 PM   #117 
  - I prefer to wait and see how this all plays out before I accuse..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:10 AM   #182 
  - In 2000 Cheney "interviewed" all serious GOP leaders  LastLiberal in PalmSprings   Oct-03-07 02:14 PM   #58 
  - Then how do you explain Chuck Hagel? He was one of the top contenders for VP.  wienerdoggie   Oct-03-07 02:16 PM   #60 
  - I know it's easy to look for any excuse  Generator   Oct-03-07 02:15 PM   #59 
  - Because Billions Of Dollars And Limitless Power  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:29 PM   #66 
  - I believe there's definitely some blackmail shit going on in Congress--  wienerdoggie   Oct-03-07 02:18 PM   #62 
  - Repub on c-span openly threatens Waxman with possible death...  KelleyKramer   Oct-03-07 02:26 PM   #65 
  - In the finest tradition of Sen. Helms threat to Clinton re visiting the South -- !!!  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 08:55 PM   #118 
  - I want to ask you a question and i'm not flaming you---ok?  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-03-07 02:37 PM   #69 
  - Would You?  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:42 PM   #73 
  - i didn't take as flames at all and if it were me i would try and find a way  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-03-07 02:47 PM   #74 
     - Ok  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 02:53 PM   #80 
     - i don't know, Leahy has been around for a long time and i think that many people  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-03-07 02:55 PM   #82 
     - Seemingly, at least Ted Kennedy has been looking for a way for decades . . ..  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:01 PM   #120 
  - Have you ever been blackmailed?  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 02:54 PM   #81 
  - I think some have skeletons and some don't-even 1 US Attorney said he felt he was threatened. nt  terisan   Oct-03-07 06:47 PM   #94 
  - Yes . . . many think that Monica Goodling and others are afraid to testify to what they  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:06 PM   #123 
  - Here's what I think has happened:  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-03-07 08:06 PM   #103 
     - Boy . . . I wish I could say you were exaggerating -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:09 PM   #124 
     - And Also Keep In Mind That Not EVERY Senator Or Congressman would NEED To  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 09:12 PM   #127 
     - I think there is both blackmail and bribery going on..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:14 AM   #183 
  - I think some of the Rethugs are being pushed as well  deminks   Oct-03-07 02:42 PM   #72 
  - Warner is currently suffering from some irregular heartbeats -- ????  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:11 PM   #125 
  - I've often thought that EVERYONE in public life is being blackmailed  Jed Dilligan   Oct-03-07 02:51 PM   #78 
  - I had a journalist reply to one of my posts here recently..  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 02:56 PM   #84 
  - then why hasn't he published this evidence?  onenote   Oct-03-07 03:08 PM   #90 
  - I have no idea..  Virginia Dare   Oct-03-07 06:22 PM   #93 
  - I'm a journalist and have heard of other blackmail instances.  Liberty Belle   Oct-03-07 03:39 PM   #91 
     - I have no doubt, and this is not a new or novel concept by any means..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:03 AM   #179 
  - Yes . . . actually . . . even in the case of Collin Andrews, a scientist . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:18 PM   #130 
  - Do you remember when Voinovich cried on the Senate floor re: appointment of Bolton to UN?  Emit   Oct-03-07 02:57 PM   #85 
  - Thanks! I hadn't see that before -- but it's been much discussed . . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:21 PM   #134 
  - What is beyond the pale...  ljm2002   Oct-03-07 03:02 PM   #88 
  - Forget Cheney...  piesRsquare   Oct-03-07 03:05 PM   #89 
  - Nothing is out of the scope here.  EnviroBat   Oct-03-07 03:42 PM   #92 
  - I think of the Repugs. as a "gang of thugs" who are in the same arena  Lindsey   Oct-03-07 07:43 PM   #99 
  - and Cheney may have a missing nuke -- ????  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:24 PM   #136 
  - !  baldguy   Oct-03-07 06:57 PM   #95 
  - Naomi Wolfe was on Joe Scarborough this  malaise   Oct-03-07 07:02 PM   #96 
  - What did she say . . .. ???? ???  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:25 PM   #137 
  - I think Congress has been threatened but heres the thing  lovuian   Oct-03-07 07:10 PM   #97 
  - Agree  trashcanistanista   Oct-03-07 07:38 PM   #98 
  - ANTHRAX THREATS. The Anthrax sent to Leahy and Daschle was a warning.  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-03-07 07:49 PM   #100 
  - anthrax- my thought as well  kineneb   Oct-03-07 09:51 PM   #160 
  - I'm sure that the threat that Jane Harman alluded to is related..  Virginia Dare   Oct-04-07 08:21 AM   #186 
  - Remember John DiIulio?  bigmonkey   Oct-03-07 08:03 PM   #102 
  - Two articles on the John DiIulio saga -- truth and consequences????  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:33 PM   #148 
     - I probably am mixing Vanity Fair and Esquire.  bigmonkey   Oct-04-07 10:43 AM   #192 
  - IMO, NOTHING is beyond cheney.  havocmom   Oct-03-07 08:13 PM   #104 
  - Regardless of the directness or indirectness of this possible threat, are there not  MrMickeysMom   Oct-03-07 08:15 PM   #106 
  - I think that sometimes.  bigmonkey   Oct-03-07 08:23 PM   #110 
  - I Like That Analogy  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 08:33 PM   #114 
     - Then they need to make  spokane   Oct-03-07 09:02 PM   #121 
        - Easy For You To Say  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 09:05 PM   #122 
  - Wellstone .... not only him . .. his wife . . .. and his daughter . . ..  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:36 PM   #151 
  - If there are death threats, real or implied, they should speak up.  Gregorian   Oct-03-07 09:19 PM   #131 
  - They would all have to do it together -- alone, they would be "kooks" ---  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:37 PM   #153 
  - I thought the domestic anthrax attack on Democratic leaders made it pretty clear.  Kurovski   Oct-03-07 09:19 PM   #132 
  - "Lesser"? How About "Greater"?  Beetwasher   Oct-03-07 09:20 PM   #133 
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  - I thought everything was pretty clear . . ..  defendandprotect   Oct-03-07 09:37 PM   #154 
  - So what? The troops risk their lives every day.  rucky   Oct-03-07 09:30 PM   #143 
  - And the salaries aren't comparable.  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 09:54 PM   #162 
  - Because it's more effective to threaten their loved ones  wtmusic   Oct-04-07 09:08 AM   #188 
  - they allowed the WTC to happen, why wouldn't the allow something more devastating?  notadmblnd   Oct-03-07 09:38 PM   #156 
  - Anyone who thinks this kind of thing doesn't go on  OnionPatch   Oct-03-07 09:43 PM   #158 
  - Perhaps, so you agree that the cowardise of keeping it a secret then is  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 09:52 PM   #161 
  - There is nothing "beyond the pale" in that world, for any of those that want to play there.  greyhound1966   Oct-03-07 09:56 PM   #163 
  - Agreed. That's why it's inconceivable that Democrats aren't playing the same games  Kaleko   Oct-04-07 12:15 AM   #173 
     - Exactly. The game of domination is deadly serious and not for the faint of heart.  greyhound1966   Oct-04-07 12:46 AM   #177 
  - This sort of thing was suggested when Kerry conceded-  undeterred   Oct-03-07 10:02 PM   #164 
  - yeah it was crap too.  lonestarnot   Oct-03-07 10:06 PM   #165 
  - I've wondered that for the past 27 years  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-03-07 10:15 PM   #166 
  - Slightly more subtle threats were suggested by author  Ilsa   Oct-03-07 10:21 PM   #169 
  - There have been fires set in the trash cans in the rest rooms  Raksha   Oct-04-07 12:14 AM   #172 
  - I've been wondering for several years if the Repubs or someone didn't have  snot   Oct-04-07 12:17 AM   #174 
  - My guess is, Democrats don't want criminal investigations of Repugnos  Kaleko   Oct-04-07 12:29 AM   #176 
  - Well, something odd seems to be going on in the military as far as threats  paxmusa   Oct-04-07 12:25 AM   #175 
  - I wear the tinfoil for a lot of stuff-but not this one-the truth is many dems have sold out...  TheGoldenRule   Oct-04-07 01:18 AM   #178 
  - bu$h* can wiretap ANYONE for ANY REASON....including congress persons  spanone   Oct-04-07 08:04 AM   #180 
  - I have wondered the same thing for the last year. I think it's more likely, however,  electron_blue   Oct-04-07 08:24 AM   #187 
  - There is some sort of unseen force at work  wtmusic   Oct-04-07 09:16 AM   #189 
  - I agree! It's a problem but they need to tape the threats then go public!  Joanne98   Oct-04-07 10:16 AM   #190 
  - This is why I think Pat Tillman investigation was SO IMPORTANT!  calipendence   Oct-04-07 10:20 AM   #191 
  - Locking  The Magistrate   Oct-04-07 10:47 AM   #193 
 

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