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Mon Oct-01-07 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 54. Again, you missed some pretty important news. We had a chance for peace, |
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shortly after the military victory, it was Bremer & Co. brilliant idea to, instead of doing what we know from experience works so well, that being giving the money to the people's government so they could go about rebuilding their newly demolished country, instead we declared a feeding frenzy for well connected thieves and turned them lose on the citizens of Iraq.
Of course, they were a little upset about what we did to them after defeating their military, and so we started the insurgency against the occupation ourselves. A clusterfuck that only arbusto® could, in his uniquely incompetent way, create. So we are talking about two different wars, the first one the military went in and did what it does so well, the second one manufactured and for which we have no way to win.
So again, we won the war and began the revolution immediately afterward. Kind of like attacking the only country in whole region that had a secular government and no tolerance for terrorists, and gave them a religious war and invited in a bunch of terrorists.
This is what happens when you select someone that has failed at everything he's ever done in his life, except for conning people even dumber than he is, as resident.
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| -The fact is the president who does withdraw our troops from Iraq is conceding defeat |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:31 PM |
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Not a fact at all, and thanks for promoting the reich-wing frame. |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:35 PM |
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If the military won as in "Mission Accomplished" when did the Iraqis concede defeat? |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:38 PM |
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When Saddam didn't show up for work. |
dkofos |
Sep-30-07 01:45 PM |
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When did we go to war against Iraqis?? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 01:54 PM |
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On March 20, 2003 at approximately 02:30 UTC n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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Wrong answer. We went in to remove Saddam and to fight Al Qaeda |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 07:55 PM |
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Where at and on what date was the cease-fire agreement signed between the combatants? |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 08:13 PM |
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Where and on what date did Congress sign a Declaration of War against Iraqis? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 09:00 PM |
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**crickets** |
Ghost in the Machine |
Oct-01-07 07:38 AM |
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Apparently you miss quite a bit. After we defeated the Iraqi military we disbanded it. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:56 PM |
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Historically wars have ended when the loser sues for peace |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:34 PM |
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Again, you missed some pretty important news. We had a chance for peace, |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 01:54 AM |
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Wouldn't be the first time. |
PetrusMonsFormicarum |
Sep-30-07 01:36 PM |
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And if the Democrats could frame sh!t, they could pull it off. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:38 PM |
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Bing-go. n/t |
quiet.american |
Sep-30-07 01:40 PM |
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It's so awful when you realize what is really happening. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:48 PM |
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East Timor. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:58 PM |
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Yes. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:01 PM |
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We suck, and all because we are rules by corporations/ruling class. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 02:03 PM |
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Then we were defeated as soon as we invaded. |
baldguy |
Sep-30-07 01:40 PM |
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Not necessarily |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:46 PM |
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I know what you mean. This really |
asjr |
Sep-30-07 02:16 PM |
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We need to concentrate on the next generation of Iraqis |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:27 PM |
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Win their hearts & minds? |
baldguy |
Sep-30-07 02:38 PM |
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More like kiss their asses |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:45 PM |
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Yep. |
aquart |
Sep-30-07 01:41 PM |
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But it can be framed as cleaning up after Mr. Danger. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:45 PM |
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Well, hardly a few thousand "dead enders." According to a government poll |
Benhurst |
Sep-30-07 01:43 PM |
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The last figure I heard on the radio a couple of days ago was 85% want us to leave. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 02:01 PM |
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No, that's not true at all. |
MADem |
Sep-30-07 01:44 PM |
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Thank you. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:46 PM |
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admitting bu$h* fucked up, not defeat. |
spanone |
Sep-30-07 01:58 PM |
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That's what I liked about Biden's answer in NH debate - he put it all on Bush and |
blm |
Sep-30-07 02:05 PM |
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Hmmm... |
golddigger |
Sep-30-07 02:04 PM |
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that s right..iraq kicked our ass, deservedly so.... |
scarface2004 |
Sep-30-07 02:06 PM |
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jYou are right on point. It has been setup so Dems take the fall |
OHdem10 |
Sep-30-07 02:08 PM |
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courage |
JVS |
Sep-30-07 02:08 PM |
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Nice "Apoc. Now" ref NN0LHI |
shadowknows69 |
Sep-30-07 02:10 PM |
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I think even the least politically-wired people are smarter than you, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-30-07 02:24 PM |
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I disagree. Don is just saying the premise that the Democratic leadership |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:28 PM |
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Good. I'm glad I misunderstood it. And I used to be puzzled by the |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-30-07 02:34 PM |
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We all are. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:35 PM |
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Are you sure? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 02:02 AM |
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About Don or about the strategy? |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-01-07 10:23 AM |
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The strategy, but both. |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 11:13 AM |
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Unless I'm misreading (which happens), I don't think so. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-01-07 12:51 PM |
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I don't think that crap plays today like it did four years ago. |
renie408 |
Sep-30-07 02:28 PM |
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so said the last lemming as it leapt to its death. |
Lerkfish |
Sep-30-07 02:33 PM |
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kind of like terrorists conceding defeat when they disband |
bigtree |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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This action was just cover for a corporate grab. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:56 PM |
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No! The president who withdraws the troops, don't have his hand |
B Calm |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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In the words of the late Sen. David Aiken (R-VT) |
policypunk |
Sep-30-07 02:57 PM |
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That's how republicans will characterize it. Democrats are scared that the public is stupid... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-30-07 02:59 PM |
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can't they also see that the emperor has no clothes |
bigtree |
Sep-30-07 03:16 PM |
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My republican friends say the same thing We can't lose |
lovuian |
Sep-30-07 03:21 PM |
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Winning or Losing are concepts dependent upon definitions. |
Disturbed |
Sep-30-07 03:47 PM |
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Is this a quote from the Fuhrer? All it says is that Bush was wrong. |
L. Coyote |
Sep-30-07 03:56 PM |
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Frame the goal as removing Sadam, remind the world he is dead, declare victory, come home. |
ThomWV |
Sep-30-07 04:05 PM |
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I don't think the Iraqis will let us get away with declaring victory |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 04:12 PM |
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We Won the War. |
liberalsoldier5 |
Sep-30-07 04:46 PM |
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