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Sun Sep-30-07 01:58 PM
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| 17. admitting bu$h* fucked up, not defeat. |
| -The fact is the president who does withdraw our troops from Iraq is conceding defeat |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:31 PM |
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Not a fact at all, and thanks for promoting the reich-wing frame. |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:35 PM |
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If the military won as in "Mission Accomplished" when did the Iraqis concede defeat? |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:38 PM |
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When Saddam didn't show up for work. |
dkofos |
Sep-30-07 01:45 PM |
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When did we go to war against Iraqis?? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 01:54 PM |
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On March 20, 2003 at approximately 02:30 UTC n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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Wrong answer. We went in to remove Saddam and to fight Al Qaeda |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 07:55 PM |
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Where at and on what date was the cease-fire agreement signed between the combatants? |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 08:13 PM |
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Where and on what date did Congress sign a Declaration of War against Iraqis? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-30-07 09:00 PM |
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**crickets** |
Ghost in the Machine |
Oct-01-07 07:38 AM |
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Apparently you miss quite a bit. After we defeated the Iraqi military we disbanded it. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:56 PM |
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Historically wars have ended when the loser sues for peace |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:34 PM |
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Again, you missed some pretty important news. We had a chance for peace, |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 01:54 AM |
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Wouldn't be the first time. |
PetrusMonsFormicarum |
Sep-30-07 01:36 PM |
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And if the Democrats could frame sh!t, they could pull it off. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:38 PM |
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Bing-go. n/t |
quiet.american |
Sep-30-07 01:40 PM |
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It's so awful when you realize what is really happening. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:48 PM |
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East Timor. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 01:58 PM |
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Yes. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:01 PM |
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We suck, and all because we are rules by corporations/ruling class. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 02:03 PM |
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Then we were defeated as soon as we invaded. |
baldguy |
Sep-30-07 01:40 PM |
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Not necessarily |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 01:46 PM |
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I know what you mean. This really |
asjr |
Sep-30-07 02:16 PM |
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We need to concentrate on the next generation of Iraqis |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:27 PM |
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Win their hearts & minds? |
baldguy |
Sep-30-07 02:38 PM |
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More like kiss their asses |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 02:45 PM |
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Yep. |
aquart |
Sep-30-07 01:41 PM |
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But it can be framed as cleaning up after Mr. Danger. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:45 PM |
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Well, hardly a few thousand "dead enders." According to a government poll |
Benhurst |
Sep-30-07 01:43 PM |
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The last figure I heard on the radio a couple of days ago was 85% want us to leave. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-30-07 02:01 PM |
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No, that's not true at all. |
MADem |
Sep-30-07 01:44 PM |
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Thank you. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 01:46 PM |
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admitting bu$h* fucked up, not defeat. |
spanone |
Sep-30-07 01:58 PM |
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That's what I liked about Biden's answer in NH debate - he put it all on Bush and |
blm |
Sep-30-07 02:05 PM |
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Hmmm... |
golddigger |
Sep-30-07 02:04 PM |
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that s right..iraq kicked our ass, deservedly so.... |
scarface2004 |
Sep-30-07 02:06 PM |
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jYou are right on point. It has been setup so Dems take the fall |
OHdem10 |
Sep-30-07 02:08 PM |
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courage |
JVS |
Sep-30-07 02:08 PM |
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Nice "Apoc. Now" ref NN0LHI |
shadowknows69 |
Sep-30-07 02:10 PM |
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I think even the least politically-wired people are smarter than you, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-30-07 02:24 PM |
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I disagree. Don is just saying the premise that the Democratic leadership |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:28 PM |
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Good. I'm glad I misunderstood it. And I used to be puzzled by the |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-30-07 02:34 PM |
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We all are. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:35 PM |
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Are you sure? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 02:02 AM |
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About Don or about the strategy? |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-01-07 10:23 AM |
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The strategy, but both. |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-01-07 11:13 AM |
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Unless I'm misreading (which happens), I don't think so. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-01-07 12:51 PM |
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I don't think that crap plays today like it did four years ago. |
renie408 |
Sep-30-07 02:28 PM |
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so said the last lemming as it leapt to its death. |
Lerkfish |
Sep-30-07 02:33 PM |
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kind of like terrorists conceding defeat when they disband |
bigtree |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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This action was just cover for a corporate grab. |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-30-07 02:56 PM |
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No! The president who withdraws the troops, don't have his hand |
B Calm |
Sep-30-07 02:39 PM |
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In the words of the late Sen. David Aiken (R-VT) |
policypunk |
Sep-30-07 02:57 PM |
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That's how republicans will characterize it. Democrats are scared that the public is stupid... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-30-07 02:59 PM |
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can't they also see that the emperor has no clothes |
bigtree |
Sep-30-07 03:16 PM |
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My republican friends say the same thing We can't lose |
lovuian |
Sep-30-07 03:21 PM |
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Winning or Losing are concepts dependent upon definitions. |
Disturbed |
Sep-30-07 03:47 PM |
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Is this a quote from the Fuhrer? All it says is that Bush was wrong. |
L. Coyote |
Sep-30-07 03:56 PM |
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Frame the goal as removing Sadam, remind the world he is dead, declare victory, come home. |
ThomWV |
Sep-30-07 04:05 PM |
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I don't think the Iraqis will let us get away with declaring victory |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-30-07 04:12 PM |
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We Won the War. |
liberalsoldier5 |
Sep-30-07 04:46 PM |
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