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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:07 AM
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68. Does the American worker class have a political choice that aligns with their economic interests?
Excellent post and thread btw. I just rec'd it. The Democratic Party that I've supported has been hijacked by the moneyed interests. FDR would roll over in his grave at what the Party has become and what it has allowed to happen to the working class in this country.

Support for illegal immigration and for sanctuary cities are one of the methods that have been used by the new party elite/leaders to advance the wishes of special interests at the expense of the former party base. I've seen repeated polls on DU that have indicated 75% of real world Democrats and DU members oppose amnesty, illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, etc. while the disconnected Democratic leaders almost unanimously support their big money sponsors.

It is very questionable to me if the worker class individual in America has a political choice that correlates with their economic interests.
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  -Do you support sanctuary Cities? Robson  Sep-26-07 09:06 PM   #0 
  - Nope.  D__S   Sep-26-07 09:14 PM   #1 
  - abstaining  lwfern   Sep-26-07 09:15 PM   #2 
  - Exactly. Talk about a push-poll. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-27-07 09:59 AM   #15 
  - Yes. I also support "Free Speech Zones"  liberalmuse   Sep-26-07 09:15 PM   #3 
  - Thanks. I was trying to figure out how to say that.  Gregorian   Sep-26-07 09:19 PM   #4 
  - If you find one, don't be stingy. Let me know!  liberalmuse   Sep-26-07 09:26 PM   #7 
     - This is what I do every day.  Gregorian   Sep-26-07 11:09 PM   #11 
  - Yeah...that was what I was what I always thought. n/t  renie408   Sep-26-07 09:59 PM   #9 
  - "I'm all for shipping out the bigots to make room." Amen!  blondeatlast   Sep-27-07 10:00 AM   #16 
  - The better question would be  DefenseLawyer   Sep-26-07 09:20 PM   #5 
  - Or, how about, should law enforcement agencies share info?  madeline_con   Sep-26-07 09:22 PM   #6 
  - A even better question would be...  D__S   Sep-26-07 09:56 PM   #8 
     - And just how does one find a "suspected illegal alien"?  DefenseLawyer   Sep-26-07 10:00 PM   #10 
  - federal immigration laws are a federal issue and shouldn't be handled by local enforcement  mark414   Sep-26-07 11:11 PM   #12 
  - Russert asked Democratic candidates the same question  Robson   Sep-27-07 09:15 AM   #13 
  - What are  LanternWaste   Sep-27-07 09:54 AM   #14 
  - NAACP, La Raza? I haven't seen that term before either. n/t  pampango   Sep-27-07 10:49 AM   #19 
     - Exactly  Robson   Sep-27-07 12:03 PM   #22 
        - So that I am certain I am not misunderstanding you...  LanternWaste   Sep-27-07 02:57 PM   #39 
        - You could say that  Robson   Sep-27-07 04:48 PM   #44 
           - Do you consider 'protection' the same as 'advancing an agenda  LanternWaste   Sep-28-07 08:40 AM   #51 
        - Wow. I'm not familiar with the first two...  LeftishBrit   Sep-28-07 10:12 AM   #57 
  - that's astounding  PDenton   Sep-27-07 03:29 PM   #41 
  - I don't have much of a problem with illegal immigrants, but I do have a problem with identity theft.  porphyrian   Sep-27-07 10:02 AM   #17 
  - But don't most illegal immigrants use fake identities?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Sep-27-07 10:50 AM   #20 
     - do they usen stolen identities though?  lionesspriyanka   Sep-27-07 12:11 PM   #23 
     - LOL....you might ask them if they've stolen any IDs lately  Robson   Sep-27-07 12:48 PM   #29 
        - It's pretty obvious you don't "get it"  Hamlette   Sep-28-07 10:33 AM   #59 
           - Look at that poll. Not very many people seem to get it.  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 11:07 AM   #69 
           - May I address your concerns?  Robson   Sep-28-07 11:30 AM   #72 
              - I don't believe your guarantees are worth much.  ieoeja   Sep-28-07 11:52 AM   #73 
              - It interests me that little attention is paid to the possible consequences  pampango   Sep-28-07 12:44 PM   #77 
              - we'd simply find a new scapegoat.  LanternWaste   Sep-28-07 02:48 PM   #84 
              - good luck  Hamlette   Sep-28-07 08:31 PM   #85 
     - Well, my girlfriend doesn't....  LanternWaste   Sep-28-07 02:24 PM   #83 
  - Yes, for a lot of reasons but mostly, if local law enforcement  sfexpat2000   Sep-27-07 10:44 AM   #18 
  - A "sanctuary city" is the equivalent of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.  TahitiNut   Sep-27-07 11:42 AM   #21 
  - No, it's not a solution but in fact, has the opposite effect  sfexpat2000   Sep-27-07 12:24 PM   #26 
     - Mirror images are easily recognizable as ethically identical.  TahitiNut   Sep-27-07 12:33 PM   #28 
        - I agree about ends and means.  sfexpat2000   Sep-27-07 01:34 PM   #35 
  - I don't know if New Haven qualifies to be called a "sanctuary city," because it now offers municipal  CTyankee   Sep-28-07 09:14 AM   #55 
     - What a great idea. Everyone is safer that way until  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 10:35 AM   #60 
  - Wow! That poll question sure was...  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-27-07 12:12 PM   #24 
  - And yet these undocumented workers under cut the working class.  Tian Zhuangzhuang   Sep-27-07 07:09 PM   #48 
     - The Latinos who came to San Francisco came because  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 10:39 AM   #62 
     - Yes in 1985  Tian Zhuangzhuang   Sep-28-07 10:56 AM   #65 
        - The fallout is ongoing. Honduras is more or less a landing strip  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 10:59 AM   #66 
           - Yes and illegal immigration is why Mexico now has Calderon instead of Obrador  Robson   Sep-28-07 12:43 PM   #76 
              - I believe that's backwards. BushCo helped Calderon steal it  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 01:07 PM   #79 
     - San Francisco's working class...  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-28-07 10:54 AM   #64 
     - Actually I agree... to a point  Tian Zhuangzhuang   Sep-28-07 11:02 AM   #67 
        - It has been a constant battle in SF....  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-28-07 11:27 AM   #71 
     - When I need work on my $650,000 home...  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-28-07 11:11 AM   #70 
  - Since I'm told that I live in one, my answer to your ridiculously biased question is "yes".  dicksteele   Sep-27-07 12:17 PM   #25 
  - Odd - Russert asked it last night and they all said yes.  Robson   Sep-27-07 01:40 PM   #36 
  - yes  mdmc   Sep-27-07 12:25 PM   #27 
  - Yup. I support them  LanternWaste   Sep-27-07 12:59 PM   #30 
  - beautiful  lionesspriyanka   Sep-27-07 01:00 PM   #31 
  - Yes, that's a beautiful sentiment, but...  Zookeeper   Sep-27-07 01:13 PM   #34 
     - You read that on a bumpersticker somewhere  LanternWaste   Sep-27-07 02:55 PM   #37 
     - I can see why you would think that considering the amount...  Zookeeper   Sep-27-07 06:33 PM   #45 
        - If "humanity" is one particular group,  LanternWaste   Sep-28-07 08:44 AM   #53 
     - Beautiful sentiments don't deserve a "Yes,....but.... " response.  pampango   Sep-27-07 03:22 PM   #40 
        - Do you think that having 12-20 million citizens of other...  Zookeeper   Sep-27-07 06:39 PM   #46 
           - I believe that those 12-20 million people are an asset to our society,  pampango   Sep-28-07 05:02 AM   #49 
           - Too bad they came here illegally or I might agree  Robson   Sep-28-07 08:23 AM   #50 
              - If your reason for opposing them is that they are here illegally, I can respect that.  pampango   Sep-28-07 09:07 AM   #54 
              - I'm sure the citizens of El Salvador, Nicaragua, Argentina,  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 10:43 AM   #63 
                 - If they don't, they should. n/t  Zookeeper   Sep-28-07 12:56 PM   #78 
                    - They do. That's why that whole region is going to the left.  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 01:12 PM   #80 
                       - We are in agreement both of those points.  Zookeeper   Sep-28-07 01:56 PM   #81 
                          - As a mommy, I think our government and their cronies  sfexpat2000   Sep-28-07 02:00 PM   #82 
           - For, in the final analysis, our most basic common...  LanternWaste   Sep-28-07 12:13 PM   #74 
  - Care to load that push poll any more?  Bluebear   Sep-27-07 01:05 PM   #32 
  - Thank you Napalm Jesus.  mainegreen   Sep-27-07 01:05 PM   #33 
  - Loaded question. n/t  ceile   Sep-27-07 02:57 PM   #38 
  - I thought you were kidding by your wording  Lone_Star_Dem   Sep-27-07 03:34 PM   #42 
  - What a loaded poll!  depakid   Sep-27-07 03:35 PM   #43 
  - Why yes, yes I do support making the baby jesus cry.  BlooInBloo   Sep-27-07 06:40 PM   #47 
  - I pay an awful lot of taxes to support a sanctuary city  AngryAmish   Sep-28-07 08:43 AM   #52 
  - Yes - the immigration system in this country is broken.  backscatter712   Sep-28-07 09:34 AM   #56 
     - Yeah the system was rigged, but now we're all becoming serfs  Robson   Sep-28-07 10:31 AM   #58 
        - Now thats what I'm talking about.  Tian Zhuangzhuang   Sep-28-07 10:37 AM   #61 
           - Does the American worker class have a political choice that aligns with their economic interests?  Robson   Sep-28-07 11:07 AM   #68 
              - Agreed. Illegal Immigration is economic warfare on the working class  Romulox   Sep-28-07 12:19 PM   #75 
 

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