Chovexani
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:41 AM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 115. OH NOES you are a white person on a planet that is mostly brown. |
| -Time to pull up stakes and secede: Republic of California |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:53 PM |
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we'll have to do an Ahhhrnold coup first |
musette_sf |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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By the time it takes us to get a movement, he'll be out of office |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Arnold would probably enjoy being President of California very much. |
hunter |
Sep-26-07 03:08 PM |
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ROC -- that's pretty cool |
Winebrat |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Cool |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Didn't Vermont or New Hampshire used to be its own nation too? |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Texas still maintains the right to secede. |
TomInTib |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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Not really... |
LanternWaste |
Sep-26-07 03:25 PM |
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Tom, my family was too - I am a 7th generation Texan and on top |
jhrobbins |
Sep-26-07 04:38 PM |
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There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance. |
TomInTib |
Sep-26-07 04:46 PM |
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Vermont n/t |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 02:19 PM |
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Vermont -- interesting! |
eppur_se_muova |
Sep-26-07 02:35 PM |
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Vermont. |
Tesha |
Sep-26-07 03:07 PM |
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Perfect n/t |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:54 PM |
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Oh, Please do not forsake me and doom me to Jesusland! |
Whoa_Nelly |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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Congress won't listen. Bush and Cheney aren't going to be impeached. |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Where will you get your food and water if you leave out the valley and mountains? |
XemaSab |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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Oh we get the mountains :) |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
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Hey. You are leaving Placer County in Jesusland. That is NOT fair. |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 01:32 PM |
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Did I leave Placer County out? |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:32 PM |
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The part of Placer County I am living in (Rocklin) is not too Hippie |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 02:41 PM |
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Placerville is in El Dorado County |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:26 PM |
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Sorry, California sucks |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:38 PM |
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"Too many people now days don't speak English there " |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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Those kind usually move to Idaho. |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:53 PM |
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Yep, either Sandpoint or Cour d'Laine |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 02:02 PM |
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I'm not a neo-nazi |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 04:07 PM |
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I grew up in California - so change is what I'm comfortable with |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 05:34 PM |
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believe it or not |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 05:55 PM |
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I think it's a good experience to have |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:10 PM |
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They are American - think of how people felt when Italians came |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:05 PM |
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At least the Irish spoke English |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 05:34 AM |
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OH NOES you are a white person on a planet that is mostly brown. |
Chovexani |
Sep-27-07 05:41 AM |
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I used to live in the Sandpoint area. The neo-Nazis confined themselves |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:08 PM |
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Spanish speaking California is my home. |
hunter |
Sep-26-07 03:21 PM |
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that's fair enough, people have different likes |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 04:02 PM |
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I have a friend who moved to California in the 50s |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:17 PM |
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California looks great, but I don't think it is sustainable |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 06:44 AM |
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Then you must have had blinders on. I lived in San Bernardino |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:10 PM |
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I was less than 2 years old |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 05:37 AM |
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Excuse me but there is far more third world poverty in parts of |
Cleita |
Sep-27-07 10:55 AM |
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So you'd give up |
XemaSab |
Sep-26-07 02:49 PM |
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Good luck with that. |
Xithras |
Sep-26-07 05:39 PM |
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We already moved from Oklahoma to sunny California in 2004 and love it |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 01:30 PM |
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I loved calif too for a few years |
blues90 |
Sep-26-07 03:49 PM |
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now wait just a minute, there are too seasons in CA! |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 05:49 PM |
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Not having rain for a about half a year is something I had to get used to |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 06:05 PM |
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Hope you guys have room cause I'm comin' west if you split off!! |
sinkingfeeling |
Sep-26-07 01:31 PM |
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If California secedes, we take the sixth largest economy in the |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:35 PM |
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As an ex-Californian, now in Washington, I'd be tempted to move back. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:38 PM |
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We once talked about the nation of Pacifica, Washington, |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:42 PM |
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I'd certainly be for it. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:44 PM |
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We would have all the pacific coast ports. That would be important. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:49 PM |
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I actually believe that something like that will happen. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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The Republic of Cascadia |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 02:14 PM |
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Why not California? |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:23 PM |
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OK, deal. The Republic of Pacifica. California, Oregon and Washington. |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 02:48 PM |
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See Ernest Callenbach's novel "Ecotopia" for details... |
Tesha |
Sep-26-07 03:10 PM |
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Please leave Oregon and Washington out |
depakid |
Sep-26-07 03:21 PM |
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The Republic of Cascadia |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 04:34 PM |
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And part of California: |
Progs Rock |
Sep-26-07 10:43 PM |
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There's a neighborhood in San Diego that nobody wants |
slackmaster |
Sep-26-07 01:36 PM |
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I wish we could... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Sep-26-07 01:36 PM |
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The South isn't California. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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financially we would come out ahead |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 05:54 PM |
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This is why they would fight us to keep us. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:02 PM |
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That succession thing always works out so well anyway. |
Lex |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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Get serious. That whole recall thing was an egregious misuse |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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er.. don't you mean Secession? |
SoCalDem |
Sep-26-07 03:14 PM |
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been tried before rember the State of Jefferson |
mulsh |
Sep-26-07 01:51 PM |
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Northern California rural people have been wanting to break |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:18 PM |
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Sounds good to me. |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:51 PM |
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So Cal would cease to exist without water from the Colorado. |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 01:54 PM |
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Yeah. Nevada and Arizona could just turn off the tap |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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That is a problem, but not insurmountable. There is technology |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:00 PM |
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Desalination costs money & the pop. is just far too large to come up w/ an alternative water source |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 02:04 PM |
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It does today, but necessity has always been the mother of |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:08 PM |
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Yeah but then you would be talking about a mass die off in the meantime. |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 02:14 PM |
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Nah! People would just move. We still have roads. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:21 PM |
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Good luck maintaining those roads without federal transportation money. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-26-07 05:44 PM |
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California belonged to Spain |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 06:08 PM |
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A treaty with Mexico isn't going to mean much to the Chinese who already have a deep water port here |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-26-07 06:43 PM |
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Since we would be keeping our tax revenue I don't think |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:06 PM |
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Not to mention the water from Northern CA in the Owens Valley |
tyedyeto |
Sep-26-07 10:38 PM |
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It's coming but not for the resaons you are thinking |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 01:55 PM |
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Good point. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:07 PM |
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Thsi country will not break up into a loose federation |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 04:29 PM |
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Here in Baja Canada... |
warren pease |
Sep-26-07 05:38 PM |
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You no longer do, if that makes you feel better |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 06:11 PM |
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Too bad you feel that way. I'm far more optimistic. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:19 PM |
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The Supreme Court has ruled that Constitution did not permit states to secede |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-26-07 02:06 PM |
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A geographical area that wants to declare itself a new nation |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:11 PM |
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The Supreme Court also said to stop the vote count |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:09 PM |
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That would be better than my idea, to blow up the bridges |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-26-07 02:09 PM |
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I'm not opposed to California secession but why don't all of us who support Kucinich |
truedelphi |
Sep-26-07 02:23 PM |
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But everything in HI costs tons of $$$$ |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 03:19 PM |
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Cool, I want to be governor of Humboldt. |
american_typeculture |
Sep-26-07 02:24 PM |
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That was my sentiment when I picked my handle when I joined DU! |
calipendence |
Sep-26-07 02:24 PM |
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We can't do a hill of beans until we dethrone Arnold, however, |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:58 PM |
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That is how the Civil War started. |
ieoeja |
Sep-26-07 04:22 PM |
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I think anyone who entertains this idea seriously knows that |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 05:58 PM |
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Um...the army appears to be otherwise engaged |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:11 PM |
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CalOrExico |
SoCalDem |
Sep-26-07 03:13 PM |
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i like Mexifornia! |
xchrom |
Sep-26-07 05:22 PM |
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We did this a fewl years back at the DU: California, Oregon & Washingon pull out & become Pacifica |
David Zephyr |
Sep-26-07 05:55 PM |
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Hey, please include Oregon and Washington. The Left Coast Republic. |
Oregonian |
Sep-26-07 06:09 PM |
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That would be a good name n/t |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:19 PM |
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Yes! Ecotopia reborn!! |
Jade Fox |
Sep-26-07 07:55 PM |
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I can see more states seceding |
lovuian |
Sep-26-07 07:03 PM |
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I'm in! |
Juniperx |
Sep-26-07 07:08 PM |
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You are, of course, wasting your time. |
Bucky |
Sep-26-07 07:14 PM |
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Please - take New York, too. And the rest of the |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:03 PM |
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Maybe the whole country should secede from |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 10:03 PM |
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New York will form its own republic... |
FreepFryer |
Sep-26-07 10:25 PM |
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Ecotopia! |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:34 PM |
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More links |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:47 PM |
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It was tried 25 or so years ago and failed |
tyedyeto |
Sep-26-07 10:41 PM |
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If California were to secede I would move there in a heartbeat. n/t |
Sentinel Chicken |
Sep-27-07 06:49 AM |
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