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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:06 PM
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94. Since we would be keeping our tax revenue I don't think
maintaining roads and infrastructure would be a problem. During the cold war we always were looking for invading Chinese popping up on our coastlines. They never came. They just bought the USA instead. I doubt that many would move their money because a large part of California's wealth is in real estate. It just stays right here.
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  -Time to pull up stakes and secede: Republic of California Taverner  Sep-26-07 12:53 PM   #0 
  - we'll have to do an Ahhhrnold coup first  musette_sf   Sep-26-07 12:55 PM   #1 
  - By the time it takes us to get a movement, he'll be out of office  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #4 
  - Arnold would probably enjoy being President of California very much.  hunter   Sep-26-07 03:08 PM   #58 
  - ROC -- that's pretty cool  Winebrat   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #2 
  - Cool  Marrah_G   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #3 
  - Didn't Vermont or New Hampshire used to be its own nation too?  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #5 
  - Texas still maintains the right to secede.  TomInTib   Sep-26-07 01:40 PM   #20 
  - Not really...  LanternWaste   Sep-26-07 03:25 PM   #65 
  - Tom, my family was too - I am a 7th generation Texan and on top  jhrobbins   Sep-26-07 04:38 PM   #72 
     - There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance.  TomInTib   Sep-26-07 04:46 PM   #73 
  - Vermont n/t  Marrah_G   Sep-26-07 02:19 PM   #46 
  - Vermont -- interesting!  eppur_se_muova   Sep-26-07 02:35 PM   #52 
  - Vermont.  Tesha   Sep-26-07 03:07 PM   #57 
  - Perfect n/t  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:54 PM   #29 
  - Oh, Please do not forsake me and doom me to Jesusland!  Whoa_Nelly   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #6 
  - Congress won't listen. Bush and Cheney aren't going to be impeached.  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:59 PM   #8 
  - Where will you get your food and water if you leave out the valley and mountains?  XemaSab   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #7 
  - Oh we get the mountains :)  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:00 PM   #9 
     - Hey. You are leaving Placer County in Jesusland. That is NOT fair.  tandot   Sep-26-07 01:32 PM   #12 
     - Did I leave Placer County out?  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:32 PM   #13 
        - The part of Placer County I am living in (Rocklin) is not too Hippie  tandot   Sep-26-07 02:41 PM   #53 
        - Placerville is in El Dorado County  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:26 PM   #107 
     - Sorry, California sucks  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:38 PM   #17 
     - "Too many people now days don't speak English there "  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:46 PM   #24 
     - Those kind usually move to Idaho.  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:53 PM   #28 
        - Yep, either Sandpoint or Cour d'Laine  Taverner   Sep-26-07 02:02 PM   #36 
           - I'm not a neo-nazi  PDenton   Sep-26-07 04:07 PM   #68 
           - I grew up in California - so change is what I'm comfortable with  Taverner   Sep-26-07 05:34 PM   #75 
           - believe it or not  PDenton   Sep-26-07 05:55 PM   #82 
              - I think it's a good experience to have  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:10 PM   #87 
           - They are American - think of how people felt when Italians came  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:05 PM   #102 
           - At least the Irish spoke English  PDenton   Sep-27-07 05:34 AM   #113 
           - OH NOES you are a white person on a planet that is mostly brown.  Chovexani   Sep-27-07 05:41 AM   #115 
           - I used to live in the Sandpoint area. The neo-Nazis confined themselves  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:08 PM   #95 
     - Spanish speaking California is my home.  hunter   Sep-26-07 03:21 PM   #64 
     - that's fair enough, people have different likes  PDenton   Sep-26-07 04:02 PM   #67 
        - I have a friend who moved to California in the 50s  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:17 PM   #89 
           - California looks great, but I don't think it is sustainable  PDenton   Sep-27-07 06:44 AM   #116 
     - Then you must have had blinders on. I lived in San Bernardino  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:10 PM   #97 
        - I was less than 2 years old  PDenton   Sep-27-07 05:37 AM   #114 
           - Excuse me but there is far more third world poverty in parts of  Cleita   Sep-27-07 10:55 AM   #118 
     - So you'd give up  XemaSab   Sep-26-07 02:49 PM   #55 
     - Good luck with that.  Xithras   Sep-26-07 05:39 PM   #77 
  - We already moved from Oklahoma to sunny California in 2004 and love it  tandot   Sep-26-07 01:30 PM   #10 
  - I loved calif too for a few years  blues90   Sep-26-07 03:49 PM   #66 
     - now wait just a minute, there are too seasons in CA!  kineneb   Sep-26-07 05:49 PM   #79 
     - Not having rain for a about half a year is something I had to get used to  tandot   Sep-26-07 06:05 PM   #84 
  - Hope you guys have room cause I'm comin' west if you split off!!  sinkingfeeling   Sep-26-07 01:31 PM   #11 
  - If California secedes, we take the sixth largest economy in the  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:35 PM   #14 
  - As an ex-Californian, now in Washington, I'd be tempted to move back.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:38 PM   #18 
     - We once talked about the nation of Pacifica, Washington,  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:42 PM   #21 
        - I'd certainly be for it.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:44 PM   #22 
        - We would have all the pacific coast ports. That would be important.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:49 PM   #25 
           - I actually believe that something like that will happen.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #34 
        - The Republic of Cascadia  Raster   Sep-26-07 02:14 PM   #43 
           - Why not California?  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:23 PM   #49 
           - OK, deal. The Republic of Pacifica. California, Oregon and Washington.  Raster   Sep-26-07 02:48 PM   #54 
              - See Ernest Callenbach's novel "Ecotopia" for details...  Tesha   Sep-26-07 03:10 PM   #59 
              - Please leave Oregon and Washington out  depakid   Sep-26-07 03:21 PM   #63 
                 - The Republic of Cascadia  Raster   Sep-26-07 04:34 PM   #71 
           - And part of California:  Progs Rock   Sep-26-07 10:43 PM   #111 
  - There's a neighborhood in San Diego that nobody wants  slackmaster   Sep-26-07 01:36 PM   #15 
  - I wish we could...  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-26-07 01:36 PM   #16 
  - The South isn't California.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #32 
     - financially we would come out ahead  kineneb   Sep-26-07 05:54 PM   #80 
        - This is why they would fight us to keep us.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:02 PM   #92 
  - That succession thing always works out so well anyway.  Lex   Sep-26-07 01:40 PM   #19 
  - Get serious. That whole recall thing was an egregious misuse  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:46 PM   #23 
  - er.. don't you mean Secession?  SoCalDem   Sep-26-07 03:14 PM   #61 
  - been tried before rember the State of Jefferson  mulsh   Sep-26-07 01:51 PM   #26 
  - Northern California rural people have been wanting to break  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:18 PM   #45 
  - Sounds good to me.  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:51 PM   #27 
  - So Cal would cease to exist without water from the Colorado.  rinsd   Sep-26-07 01:54 PM   #30 
  - Yeah. Nevada and Arizona could just turn off the tap  rockymountaindem   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #33 
  - That is a problem, but not insurmountable. There is technology  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:00 PM   #35 
  - Desalination costs money & the pop. is just far too large to come up w/ an alternative water source  rinsd   Sep-26-07 02:04 PM   #37 
     - It does today, but necessity has always been the mother of  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:08 PM   #40 
        - Yeah but then you would be talking about a mass die off in the meantime.  rinsd   Sep-26-07 02:14 PM   #44 
           - Nah! People would just move. We still have roads.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:21 PM   #47 
              - Good luck maintaining those roads without federal transportation money.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-26-07 05:44 PM   #78 
                 - California belonged to Spain  kineneb   Sep-26-07 06:08 PM   #85 
                 - A treaty with Mexico isn't going to mean much to the Chinese who already have a deep water port here  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-26-07 06:43 PM   #91 
                 - Since we would be keeping our tax revenue I don't think  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:06 PM   #94 
  - Not to mention the water from Northern CA in the Owens Valley  tyedyeto   Sep-26-07 10:38 PM   #109 
  - It's coming but not for the resaons you are thinking  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 01:55 PM   #31 
  - Good point.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:07 PM   #39 
     - Thsi country will not break up into a loose federation  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 04:29 PM   #70 
        - Here in Baja Canada...  warren pease   Sep-26-07 05:38 PM   #76 
        - You no longer do, if that makes you feel better  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 06:11 PM   #88 
        - Too bad you feel that way. I'm far more optimistic.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:19 PM   #99 
  - The Supreme Court has ruled that Constitution did not permit states to secede  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-26-07 02:06 PM   #38 
  - A geographical area that wants to declare itself a new nation  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:11 PM   #42 
  - The Supreme Court also said to stop the vote count  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:09 PM   #103 
  - That would be better than my idea, to blow up the bridges  sfexpat2000   Sep-26-07 02:09 PM   #41 
  - I'm not opposed to California secession but why don't all of us who support Kucinich  truedelphi   Sep-26-07 02:23 PM   #48 
  - But everything in HI costs tons of $$$$  Taverner   Sep-26-07 03:19 PM   #62 
  - Cool, I want to be governor of Humboldt.  american_typeculture   Sep-26-07 02:24 PM   #50 
  - That was my sentiment when I picked my handle when I joined DU!  calipendence   Sep-26-07 02:24 PM   #51 
  - We can't do a hill of beans until we dethrone Arnold, however,  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:58 PM   #56 
     - That is how the Civil War started.  ieoeja   Sep-26-07 04:22 PM   #69 
        - I think anyone who entertains this idea seriously knows that  Cleita   Sep-26-07 05:58 PM   #83 
           - Um...the army appears to be otherwise engaged  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:11 PM   #104 
  - CalOrExico  SoCalDem   Sep-26-07 03:13 PM   #60 
  - i like Mexifornia!  xchrom   Sep-26-07 05:22 PM   #74 
  - We did this a fewl years back at the DU: California, Oregon & Washingon pull out & become Pacifica  David Zephyr   Sep-26-07 05:55 PM   #81 
  - Hey, please include Oregon and Washington. The Left Coast Republic.  Oregonian   Sep-26-07 06:09 PM   #86 
  - That would be a good name n/t  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:19 PM   #90 
  - Yes! Ecotopia reborn!!  Jade Fox   Sep-26-07 07:55 PM   #100 
  - I can see more states seceding  lovuian   Sep-26-07 07:03 PM   #93 
  - I'm in!  Juniperx   Sep-26-07 07:08 PM   #96 
  - You are, of course, wasting your time.  Bucky   Sep-26-07 07:14 PM   #98 
  - Please - take New York, too. And the rest of the  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:03 PM   #101 
  - Maybe the whole country should secede from  Cleita   Sep-26-07 10:03 PM   #105 
     - New York will form its own republic...  FreepFryer   Sep-26-07 10:25 PM   #106 
  - Ecotopia!  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:34 PM   #108 
  - More links  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:47 PM   #112 
  - It was tried 25 or so years ago and failed  tyedyeto   Sep-26-07 10:41 PM   #110 
  - If California were to secede I would move there in a heartbeat. n/t  Sentinel Chicken   Sep-27-07 06:49 AM   #117 

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