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Wed Sep-26-07 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #70 |
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... in what's now called Oregon, I'd be extremely happy to see OR, WA and northern CA secede and claim allegiance to Canada. Just the health care system alone would make it worthwhile, although not living in a "great power" would also be cool for a change.
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| -Time to pull up stakes and secede: Republic of California |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:53 PM |
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we'll have to do an Ahhhrnold coup first |
musette_sf |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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By the time it takes us to get a movement, he'll be out of office |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Arnold would probably enjoy being President of California very much. |
hunter |
Sep-26-07 03:08 PM |
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ROC -- that's pretty cool |
Winebrat |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Cool |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Didn't Vermont or New Hampshire used to be its own nation too? |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Texas still maintains the right to secede. |
TomInTib |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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Not really... |
LanternWaste |
Sep-26-07 03:25 PM |
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Tom, my family was too - I am a 7th generation Texan and on top |
jhrobbins |
Sep-26-07 04:38 PM |
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There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance. |
TomInTib |
Sep-26-07 04:46 PM |
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Vermont n/t |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 02:19 PM |
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Vermont -- interesting! |
eppur_se_muova |
Sep-26-07 02:35 PM |
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Vermont. |
Tesha |
Sep-26-07 03:07 PM |
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Perfect n/t |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:54 PM |
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Oh, Please do not forsake me and doom me to Jesusland! |
Whoa_Nelly |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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Congress won't listen. Bush and Cheney aren't going to be impeached. |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Where will you get your food and water if you leave out the valley and mountains? |
XemaSab |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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Oh we get the mountains :) |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
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Hey. You are leaving Placer County in Jesusland. That is NOT fair. |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 01:32 PM |
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Did I leave Placer County out? |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:32 PM |
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The part of Placer County I am living in (Rocklin) is not too Hippie |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 02:41 PM |
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Placerville is in El Dorado County |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:26 PM |
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Sorry, California sucks |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:38 PM |
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"Too many people now days don't speak English there " |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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Those kind usually move to Idaho. |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:53 PM |
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Yep, either Sandpoint or Cour d'Laine |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 02:02 PM |
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I'm not a neo-nazi |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 04:07 PM |
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I grew up in California - so change is what I'm comfortable with |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 05:34 PM |
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believe it or not |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 05:55 PM |
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I think it's a good experience to have |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:10 PM |
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They are American - think of how people felt when Italians came |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:05 PM |
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At least the Irish spoke English |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 05:34 AM |
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OH NOES you are a white person on a planet that is mostly brown. |
Chovexani |
Sep-27-07 05:41 AM |
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I used to live in the Sandpoint area. The neo-Nazis confined themselves |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:08 PM |
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Spanish speaking California is my home. |
hunter |
Sep-26-07 03:21 PM |
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that's fair enough, people have different likes |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 04:02 PM |
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I have a friend who moved to California in the 50s |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:17 PM |
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California looks great, but I don't think it is sustainable |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 06:44 AM |
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Then you must have had blinders on. I lived in San Bernardino |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:10 PM |
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I was less than 2 years old |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 05:37 AM |
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Excuse me but there is far more third world poverty in parts of |
Cleita |
Sep-27-07 10:55 AM |
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So you'd give up |
XemaSab |
Sep-26-07 02:49 PM |
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Good luck with that. |
Xithras |
Sep-26-07 05:39 PM |
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We already moved from Oklahoma to sunny California in 2004 and love it |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 01:30 PM |
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I loved calif too for a few years |
blues90 |
Sep-26-07 03:49 PM |
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now wait just a minute, there are too seasons in CA! |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 05:49 PM |
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Not having rain for a about half a year is something I had to get used to |
tandot |
Sep-26-07 06:05 PM |
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Hope you guys have room cause I'm comin' west if you split off!! |
sinkingfeeling |
Sep-26-07 01:31 PM |
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If California secedes, we take the sixth largest economy in the |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:35 PM |
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As an ex-Californian, now in Washington, I'd be tempted to move back. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:38 PM |
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We once talked about the nation of Pacifica, Washington, |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:42 PM |
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I'd certainly be for it. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:44 PM |
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We would have all the pacific coast ports. That would be important. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:49 PM |
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I actually believe that something like that will happen. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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The Republic of Cascadia |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 02:14 PM |
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Why not California? |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:23 PM |
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OK, deal. The Republic of Pacifica. California, Oregon and Washington. |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 02:48 PM |
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See Ernest Callenbach's novel "Ecotopia" for details... |
Tesha |
Sep-26-07 03:10 PM |
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Please leave Oregon and Washington out |
depakid |
Sep-26-07 03:21 PM |
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The Republic of Cascadia |
Raster |
Sep-26-07 04:34 PM |
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And part of California: |
Progs Rock |
Sep-26-07 10:43 PM |
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There's a neighborhood in San Diego that nobody wants |
slackmaster |
Sep-26-07 01:36 PM |
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I wish we could... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Sep-26-07 01:36 PM |
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The South isn't California. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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financially we would come out ahead |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 05:54 PM |
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This is why they would fight us to keep us. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:02 PM |
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That succession thing always works out so well anyway. |
Lex |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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Get serious. That whole recall thing was an egregious misuse |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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er.. don't you mean Secession? |
SoCalDem |
Sep-26-07 03:14 PM |
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been tried before rember the State of Jefferson |
mulsh |
Sep-26-07 01:51 PM |
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Northern California rural people have been wanting to break |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:18 PM |
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Sounds good to me. |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 01:51 PM |
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So Cal would cease to exist without water from the Colorado. |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 01:54 PM |
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Yeah. Nevada and Arizona could just turn off the tap |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-26-07 01:56 PM |
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That is a problem, but not insurmountable. There is technology |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:00 PM |
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Desalination costs money & the pop. is just far too large to come up w/ an alternative water source |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 02:04 PM |
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It does today, but necessity has always been the mother of |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:08 PM |
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Yeah but then you would be talking about a mass die off in the meantime. |
rinsd |
Sep-26-07 02:14 PM |
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Nah! People would just move. We still have roads. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:21 PM |
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Good luck maintaining those roads without federal transportation money. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-26-07 05:44 PM |
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California belonged to Spain |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 06:08 PM |
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A treaty with Mexico isn't going to mean much to the Chinese who already have a deep water port here |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-26-07 06:43 PM |
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Since we would be keeping our tax revenue I don't think |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:06 PM |
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Not to mention the water from Northern CA in the Owens Valley |
tyedyeto |
Sep-26-07 10:38 PM |
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It's coming but not for the resaons you are thinking |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 01:55 PM |
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Good point. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:07 PM |
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Thsi country will not break up into a loose federation |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 04:29 PM |
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Here in Baja Canada... |
warren pease |
Sep-26-07 05:38 PM |
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You no longer do, if that makes you feel better |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-26-07 06:11 PM |
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Too bad you feel that way. I'm far more optimistic. |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 07:19 PM |
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The Supreme Court has ruled that Constitution did not permit states to secede |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-26-07 02:06 PM |
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A geographical area that wants to declare itself a new nation |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:11 PM |
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The Supreme Court also said to stop the vote count |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:09 PM |
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That would be better than my idea, to blow up the bridges |
sfexpat2000 |
Sep-26-07 02:09 PM |
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I'm not opposed to California secession but why don't all of us who support Kucinich |
truedelphi |
Sep-26-07 02:23 PM |
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But everything in HI costs tons of $$$$ |
Taverner |
Sep-26-07 03:19 PM |
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Cool, I want to be governor of Humboldt. |
american_typeculture |
Sep-26-07 02:24 PM |
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That was my sentiment when I picked my handle when I joined DU! |
calipendence |
Sep-26-07 02:24 PM |
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We can't do a hill of beans until we dethrone Arnold, however, |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 02:58 PM |
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That is how the Civil War started. |
ieoeja |
Sep-26-07 04:22 PM |
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I think anyone who entertains this idea seriously knows that |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 05:58 PM |
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Um...the army appears to be otherwise engaged |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:11 PM |
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CalOrExico |
SoCalDem |
Sep-26-07 03:13 PM |
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i like Mexifornia! |
xchrom |
Sep-26-07 05:22 PM |
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We did this a fewl years back at the DU: California, Oregon & Washingon pull out & become Pacifica |
David Zephyr |
Sep-26-07 05:55 PM |
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Hey, please include Oregon and Washington. The Left Coast Republic. |
Oregonian |
Sep-26-07 06:09 PM |
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That would be a good name n/t |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-26-07 06:19 PM |
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Yes! Ecotopia reborn!! |
Jade Fox |
Sep-26-07 07:55 PM |
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I can see more states seceding |
lovuian |
Sep-26-07 07:03 PM |
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I'm in! |
Juniperx |
Sep-26-07 07:08 PM |
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You are, of course, wasting your time. |
Bucky |
Sep-26-07 07:14 PM |
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Please - take New York, too. And the rest of the |
adigal |
Sep-26-07 08:03 PM |
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Maybe the whole country should secede from |
Cleita |
Sep-26-07 10:03 PM |
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New York will form its own republic... |
FreepFryer |
Sep-26-07 10:25 PM |
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Ecotopia! |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:34 PM |
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More links |
pfitz59 |
Sep-26-07 10:47 PM |
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It was tried 25 or so years ago and failed |
tyedyeto |
Sep-26-07 10:41 PM |
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If California were to secede I would move there in a heartbeat. n/t |
Sentinel Chicken |
Sep-27-07 06:49 AM |
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