DemocratSinceBirth
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Wed Sep-26-07 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
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As long as Jews in Muslim lands and African Americans in the Jim Crow South kept their "heads down" they were ok...
That's the lesson...
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| -Not reported in the MSM: What Ahmadinejad did on Monday afternoon |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-26-07 10:19 AM |
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Thank you. nt |
snappyturtle |
Sep-26-07 10:22 AM |
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More pictures |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-26-07 10:27 AM |
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Sep-26-07 10:30 AM |
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So it's okay to shake the hand of a guy who approves of stringing up gays |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-26-07 10:36 AM |
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Umm, wtf? |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:38 AM |
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You imply that Holly (a woman) is "ignorant" |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-26-07 10:48 AM |
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Sep-26-07 10:53 AM |
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"These rabbis" |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-26-07 11:08 AM |
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having lived next to ultra-orthodox, |
antifaschits |
Sep-26-07 11:56 AM |
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You don't wanna know some of the other details |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 02:42 AM |
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That happens all the time! |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-27-07 11:48 AM |
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Don't they pray every morning thanking God they weren't born women? |
Chovexani |
Sep-27-07 12:57 PM |
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I suspect it's out of modesty instead of an implication of being unclean |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-26-07 11:09 PM |
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Actually, |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:27 AM |
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You do realize they wont touch any woman that's |
leftynyc |
Sep-27-07 04:41 AM |
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Of course |
gaspee |
Sep-26-07 11:04 AM |
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Gays: bringing organized religions together |
Chovexani |
Sep-27-07 12:55 PM |
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"Fundamentalist" Jews Are No Different Than Other Fundamentalists |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:41 AM |
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THA T is the truth!!! Fanaticism in ANY direction is dangerous...particularly since they usually |
BrklynLib at work |
Sep-27-07 08:01 AM |
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I would not say Orthodox are necessarily fundamentalists |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 10:48 AM |
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You're right |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-26-07 10:42 AM |
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Orthodox and ultra-orthodox is like a conservative branch. |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:45 AM |
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Heck I am Buddhist and a I met a Rabbi on a dating site who wanted to go out |
Maraya1969 |
Sep-27-07 02:40 AM |
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I Don't Think An Orthodox Jew Is Allowed To Touch A Woman Other Than His Wife |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:48 AM |
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Yup that is true. |
stellanoir |
Sep-26-07 10:55 AM |
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Orthodox= too good to touch infidels, women or other unclean |
madeline_con |
Sep-26-07 09:50 PM |
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Not "too good." |
freedom fighter jh |
Sep-27-07 07:36 AM |
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LOL. |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:43 AM |
#38 |
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Check out your source. |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 10:53 AM |
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Why don't you use a little more reason - how is everyone supposed |
higher class |
Sep-26-07 11:47 AM |
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I questioned the source |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:03 PM |
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that is the same rationale that bush uses not to do diplomacy. |
roguevalley |
Sep-26-07 01:22 PM |
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I second that roguevalley EOM |
Freeusfromthechurch |
Sep-27-07 09:55 AM |
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Nothing Wrong With Working For Peace... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 12:19 PM |
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These Rabbis are NOT "pursuing peace"! |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 02:46 AM |
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Sep-26-07 11:16 PM |
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It doesn't really look like he is does he? |
frankf |
Sep-28-07 01:14 PM |
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Actually reported in Haaretz with context. |
Mass |
Sep-26-07 10:25 AM |
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Are they a pacifist group? |
2rth2pwr |
Sep-26-07 10:28 AM |
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Nope - They are a group that believes that Israel is not in this world and has |
Mass |
Sep-26-07 10:30 AM |
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They Are Waiting For The Messiah To Establish The Jewish State |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:35 AM |
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Well, let me just say they have a very good point. |
madeline_con |
Sep-26-07 09:58 PM |
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How have Iranian Jews been fairing under Ahmadinejad? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-26-07 10:26 AM |
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I don't know. Do you? n/t |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-26-07 10:28 AM |
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No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-26-07 10:29 AM |
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Here you go. |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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Sep-26-07 10:53 AM |
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Gobbledy gook |
cali |
Sep-26-07 11:03 AM |
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Very true! |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-27-07 12:55 PM |
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I was under the impression that Zionist beliefs and those |
madeline_con |
Sep-26-07 10:02 PM |
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Please do some research on "Practical Zionism"... |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:02 AM |
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Thanks for the info |
rosesaylavee |
Sep-27-07 06:33 AM |
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Not really... |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-27-07 12:59 PM |
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Was there anything to the spying charges? n/t |
JackRiddler |
Sep-26-07 04:52 PM |
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Now there's an unbiased source for ya' |
Emillereid |
Sep-27-07 01:01 AM |
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Thats just a big paste there |
frankf |
Sep-28-07 01:23 PM |
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About As Well As African Americans In The Jim Crow South |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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Jews and other religious minorities are officially discriminated against |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:42 AM |
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So does Israel... |
liberation |
Sep-26-07 10:17 PM |
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Most of the Jewish in Iran |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-26-07 11:18 AM |
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three links that may help you to form an opinion |
madrchsod |
Sep-26-07 10:38 AM |
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Jews in Iran |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 10:50 AM |
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Most Jews With Means Split... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:54 AM |
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Quiet, you're upsetting those |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 10:56 AM |
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Yeah, My Fiance From The Phillipines Worked For One In L A |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 11:02 AM |
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Ridiculous |
higher class |
Sep-26-07 11:57 AM |
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most people with means split, like my parents. |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 06:30 PM |
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As far as I know, they all moved to los angeles. |
robinlynne |
Sep-26-07 11:05 AM |
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that's Tehrangeles, please :-) |
kineneb |
Sep-26-07 06:32 PM |
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I read recently that Iran's Jewish population is second largest in the ME, after Israel |
Emit |
Sep-27-07 02:38 AM |
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unfortunately the creation of Israel |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 10:40 AM |
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wow, where did this news go? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 10:28 AM |
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Wouldn't you like to know. I doubt we'll see this presented by MSM. |
snappyturtle |
Sep-26-07 10:32 AM |
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It's not what you think |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 11:06 AM |
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stovepiped into the WH propoganda grinder |
Supersedeas |
Sep-26-07 12:09 PM |
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Wow! |
helderheid |
Sep-26-07 10:29 AM |
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well, that's interesting. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-26-07 10:30 AM |
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I suggest reading the entire thread for just a wee bit |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:47 AM |
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11 recommends for that - Why? |
Mass |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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This is a beautiful moment for me. This is a peace step. This is |
higher class |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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"Jews have lived in Iran peacefully for long periods of time." |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:37 AM |
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Or now in Jena. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-26-07 10:44 AM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:51 AM |
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ding |
mikelgb |
Sep-26-07 11:34 AM |
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Well, he didn't say this this period of time was included in one of those long periods |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-26-07 11:07 PM |
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This is pure propaganda |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:50 AM |
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I don't agree Higher Class. |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-26-07 10:52 AM |
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Sep-26-07 11:30 AM |
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Well, now that you put it THAT way. |
madeline_con |
Sep-26-07 10:06 PM |
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I didn't know about this group's severe break with their own brothers. |
higher class |
Sep-26-07 11:02 AM |
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"f you don't believe that there are minority religions living safely under majority religions, give |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 11:06 AM |
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There's a saying by Ben Franklin |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-26-07 11:12 AM |
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They belong to Neturei Karta (Guardians of the City) |
sabra |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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LOL! People here complain about the MSM and yet have |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:33 AM |
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I am afraid some DUers show their profound ignorance in this thread. |
Mass |
Sep-26-07 10:36 AM |
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Imagine the ignorance in the rest of the US. OMG! |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:46 AM |
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Thanks. |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:39 AM |
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makes me sick |
Marrah_G |
Sep-26-07 10:42 AM |
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These same Haredi in Jerusalem |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:22 AM |
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I don't mean to rain on the parade here, but... |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:36 AM |
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You do know anti-Zionist means anti-Israel, don't you? He met with a group that |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 10:39 AM |
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Sep-26-07 10:39 AM |
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Trying to keep an open mind here, but a direct quote contradicts what you are quoting, below: |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 10:46 AM |
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"Jewish" is a religion, an ethnicity, a culture. Zionism is an idea some believe. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 10:47 AM |
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wow. if you think jews are all zionists, you need to read, and a lot. |
robinlynne |
Sep-26-07 11:07 AM |
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It comes directly from the OP. I know all Jews are not Zionists, but |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 11:13 AM |
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no contradiction. My whole family is jewish and I have never even met a zionist. |
robinlynne |
Sep-26-07 11:20 AM |
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I guess is that the contradiction pointed to is between |
Mass |
Sep-26-07 11:25 AM |
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sounds like he is saying jews are zionists. |
robinlynne |
Sep-26-07 12:10 PM |
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Depends On Your Definition Of Zionism |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 12:15 PM |
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Congratulations... |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:33 AM |
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I find it hard to believe that your excellent post is still up |
truedelphi |
Sep-26-07 04:07 PM |
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Zionism Is Simply The Belief That Jews Should Have Their Own Homeland |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-07 02:29 AM |
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I think the chances are that you have met some Zionists... |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-27-07 01:18 PM |
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Sep-26-07 11:41 AM |
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Thanks--I honestly was confused, and admittedly pretty ignorant. nt |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 11:43 AM |
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You are correct |
Lithos |
Sep-28-07 01:10 AM |
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if you don't think that the majority |
cali |
Sep-26-07 04:33 PM |
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Read Herzl |
madeline_con |
Sep-26-07 10:11 PM |
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Zionism in the usual sense |
PDenton |
Sep-27-07 11:03 AM |
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I deny that meeting took place. Only jews who hate him are real. |
the other one |
Sep-26-07 10:39 AM |
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Please read this entire thread. You are purchasing very cheesy propoganda. |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:41 AM |
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You know, I'd find that funny if I hadn't read that sentiment (but meant SERIOUSLY)... |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 10:42 AM |
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Don't Light Any Matches Near Your Strawman |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:47 AM |
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How do you like |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:55 AM |
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From the same article: |
rateyes |
Sep-26-07 10:41 AM |
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It's always been my understanding |
cali |
Sep-26-07 11:18 AM |
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I honestly don't think I get your interpretation here, cali. |
Usrename |
Sep-27-07 12:20 AM |
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Israel is a theocracy the way England |
cali |
Sep-27-07 11:15 AM |
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You got it right |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:52 AM |
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I think you are missing the entire religious aspect of the argument. A prevalent belief among |
IsItJustMe |
Sep-27-07 09:17 AM |
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damned Israel-hating, Jew-hating, |
leftofthedial |
Sep-26-07 10:47 AM |
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The Jewish Equivalent Of Clarence Thomas And Armstrong Williams |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:53 AM |
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That's a nasty comment to make about them, considering they're just being Orthodox Jews. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 10:55 AM |
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Your ignorance is showing. |
cali |
Sep-26-07 11:06 AM |
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But the "Orthodox" you refer to don't recognize OTHER Jewish sects (Reform, Conservative) either. |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 11:13 AM |
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So in order to be Jewish, one has to accept a 100% political idea? |
Chulanowa |
Sep-27-07 02:17 AM |
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Um...where did you get that from? |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:29 AM |
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Lemme guess |
cali |
Sep-27-07 11:07 AM |
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Not at all |
Chulanowa |
Sep-27-07 12:21 PM |
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Hence The Remark About Their Motivation |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 11:11 AM |
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You're attempting to indict Orthodox Jewry in general, NOT the Neturei Karta. |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 11:18 AM |
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There Are Orthodox Jews In Israel That Oppose The Creation Of A Jewish State |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 11:41 AM |
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Actually, your confusion is not a-typical. A micture of economic need and the desire... |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 11:51 AM |
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LOL |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:54 AM |
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They Remind Me Of The Iraqi National Congress In Exile That Bush* Palled Around With |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-26-07 10:57 AM |
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Really cheesy Propoganda. How does it taste? Seriously? You had a bellyful. |
Bonobo |
Sep-26-07 10:57 AM |
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Thanks you made me LOL. |
frankf |
Sep-28-07 01:27 PM |
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What President Bush did to help debt-riddled homeowners (Look, ma, no propaganda here...) |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 10:56 AM |
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White House website--is it news or propaganda? |
blondeatlast |
Sep-26-07 11:19 AM |
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Did this really happen? Was it recent? |
The Stranger |
Sep-26-07 12:07 PM |
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Yep, two days ago. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 12:13 PM |
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some clarifications about "orthodox" Judiaism |
onenote |
Sep-26-07 12:24 PM |
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Recommendations for this thread are a grand mistake. |
higher class |
Sep-26-07 12:25 PM |
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Uh, that's fine but I recommended for the OP, not the replies. I think others use the same... |
Poll_Blind |
Sep-26-07 12:30 PM |
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That someone as bright |
cali |
Sep-26-07 01:19 PM |
#105 |
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Recommended. Brilliant example of how myopic MSM is. |
robertpaulsen |
Sep-26-07 01:50 PM |
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um. |
cali |
Sep-26-07 04:29 PM |
#109 |
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Yes, and I still beat my wife too. |
robertpaulsen |
Sep-26-07 07:04 PM |
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funny...I must have missed this on the corporate media coverage. |
mod mom |
Sep-26-07 04:53 PM |
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What's funny is that people are falling for the purest PROPAGANDA |
cali |
Sep-26-07 06:20 PM |
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Neturei Karta is their name |
WilyWondr |
Sep-26-07 11:42 PM |
#143 |
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Well Surprise, Surprise |
Megahurtz |
Sep-26-07 04:57 PM |
#113 |
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Very cool post. And now our country will bomb thousands over there! |
superkia |
Sep-26-07 06:02 PM |
#114 |
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Yeah, but these were the guys that went to the Holocaust "conference" in Tehran |
dmesg |
Sep-26-07 07:41 PM |
#119 |
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rec |
ooglymoogly |
Sep-26-07 08:08 PM |
#120 |
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This kind of information is on total lockdown by corporate news |
ooglymoogly |
Sep-26-07 08:13 PM |
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Sep-26-07 09:28 PM |
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That's just ridiculous |
cali |
Sep-26-07 09:45 PM |
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Zionism is a destructive ideology... not supported by most Jews |
alittlelark |
Sep-26-07 10:28 PM |
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Sorry. That's not only not true, it's |
cali |
Sep-26-07 10:53 PM |
#132 |
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There are many types of Zionism... but the fundamentalist whacko |
alittlelark |
Sep-26-07 11:08 PM |
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And that's what I was saying in my posts |
cali |
Sep-26-07 11:17 PM |
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What posts? I was responding to the OP when you got all |
alittlelark |
Sep-26-07 11:28 PM |
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It's a complex issue... |
NoGodsNoMasters |
Sep-26-07 11:18 PM |
#139 |
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The Likud party is not extremist Zionism |
piesRsquare |
Sep-27-07 03:05 AM |
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Sep-26-07 11:14 PM |
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How creative!!!! |
alittlelark |
Sep-26-07 11:30 PM |
#142 |
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No they're not; they are a very diverse group |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-27-07 01:13 PM |
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Ahmadinejad Meets Clerics, and Decibels Drop a Notch |
Scurrilous |
Sep-26-07 10:03 PM |
#127 |
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Now that's a valuable story |
cali |
Sep-26-07 11:19 PM |
#140 |
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My heart is broken... |
Baby Snooks |
Sep-27-07 12:21 AM |
#146 |
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K&R. n/t |
siri2k |
Sep-26-07 11:55 PM |
#144 |
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There is more to this interatction I am sure than most people wish to accept out of hand |
Hoof Hearted |
Sep-27-07 12:37 AM |
#147 |
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Newsflash: Propaganda! |
Jack_Dawson |
Sep-27-07 01:20 AM |
#149 |
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Yes, but now you must separate their propaganda from the AIPAC/CNN/FOX cabal |
JCMach1 |
Sep-27-07 01:59 AM |
#150 |
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I can't believe this pure propaganda has 50 recs. |
mhatrw |
Sep-27-07 02:27 AM |
#152 |
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Oh, a photo op to show he's a good guy... |
cynatnite |
Sep-27-07 02:30 AM |
#154 |
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He does have balls |
Goat52a |
Sep-27-07 03:02 AM |
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With all due respect, this WAS reported in the MSM a day before you started this thread. |
Heidi |
Sep-27-07 03:31 AM |
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Where's the photo of him skating around the rink, holding the cup aloft? n/t |
RufusTFirefly |
Sep-27-07 05:07 AM |
#169 |
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That's a lovely picture but at worst he's a holocaust denier and at best... |
LynneSin |
Sep-27-07 08:01 AM |
#172 |
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I am so sick of this crap. |
mmcghenn |
Sep-27-07 08:18 AM |
#174 |
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You know |
kenfrequed |
Sep-27-07 08:56 AM |
#175 |
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If there is a God ... |
Gonnuts |
Sep-27-07 09:30 AM |
#177 |
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Whatever, |
ejbr |
Sep-27-07 10:04 AM |
#179 |
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These Jewish rabbis are extreme religious anti-Zionists; that's probably the reason |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-27-07 12:54 PM |
#187 |
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wow - awesome link |
mdmc |
Sep-27-07 12:56 PM |
#190 |
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Still Looking For A Reason To Jump Into Bed With This Guy? |
NeedleCast |
Sep-27-07 02:08 PM |
#195 |
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The only reason |
Lurking Dem |
Sep-27-07 02:46 PM |
#196 |
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