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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Sep-24-07 12:05 PM
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15. It's virtually impossible to untangle the effects of family background..
Boys and girls within a family can be treated very differently.

It's not news that *overall* males tend to be closer to the extremes in all sorts of tests. If there's a genetic basis, it would presumably be due to the fact that unusual recessive genes on the X chromosome will usually be suppressed by dominant genes on the other X chromosome in a woman, and won't be expressed. A man has only one X chromosome, so unusual recessive genes are more likely to be manifested. This is why men are more likely than women to be colour-blind; and why haemophilia is almost exclusively found in men. There are some disorders that specifically affect the brain and cause low IQ, such as fragile-X syndrome, which are caused by an abnormal gene on the X-chromosome, and which are much commoner in males than in females. In theory, it's also possible that unusual genes on the X-chromosome could cause outstandingly *high* ability, and this would be commoner in males. However, there's no real evidence for this, and it seems a bit unlikely, as variations in ability in the normal and gifted range seem to be due to multiple genes interacting with environmental factors, rather than to any one single gene.

Two important reasons for males being more 'extreme' than females are likely to be that (1) it's more acceptable for males to stand out from the crowd, whereas females are more likely to wish to conform and not appear too noticeable; (2) men are more likely to take risks, which, in the case of tests, tends to mean that they are more likely to come up with a brilliant idea that raises their score *and* more likely to fail completely, whereas women tend to play safer.

As regards specific abilities, it is generally found that females are a bit better verbally and males are a bit better spatially, though the differences are not huge. There are very conflicting findings about gender differences in arithmetic, with lots of variations over time and place, which suggests a strong influence of social factors. Gender differences in arithmetic and other aspects of maths are much smaller now than 20 or 30 years ago. Elizabeth Spelke published an interesting article about this in 2005.
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  Men are smartest and dumbest, say scientists AngryAmish  Sep-24-07 10:48 AM   #0 
   "We are so smart! S-M-R-T!!"  Richardo   Sep-24-07 10:49 AM   #1 
   Click and Clack the two brilliant philosophers on Car Talk nailed the issue this weekend  BOSSHOG   Sep-24-07 10:50 AM   #2 
   Men are much more achievement oriented  Annces   Sep-24-07 10:54 AM   #3 
   the problem with IQ tests is that you cant make a causation out of a correlation  lionesspriyanka   Sep-24-07 10:57 AM   #4 
   "..... the male strangehold on Nobel prizes ..."  sarge43   Sep-24-07 11:05 AM   #5 
   IIRC, Rosalind was dead (from her work) by the time Crick and Watson were  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 11:43 AM   #12 
      I know about the posthumous pass, but even today the woman has never  sarge43   Sep-24-07 12:03 PM   #14 
         I knew Grace from attendance at EDP conferences and seminars.  TahitiNut   Sep-24-07 12:24 PM   #16 
            You were fortunate to know her.  sarge43   Sep-24-07 12:41 PM   #17 
               When I first met her, she was "Commander Grace" as I recall - "Captain Grace" the rest of the time.  TahitiNut   Sep-24-07 12:49 PM   #18 
                  She had to have made O-6 after the mid-seventies  sarge43   Sep-24-07 01:04 PM   #19 
   Check out how some Nobel winners got theirs  Warpy   Sep-24-07 11:07 AM   #6 
   Define "Smart"  edhopper   Sep-24-07 11:13 AM   #7 
   I think  BoneDaddy   Sep-24-07 11:14 AM   #8 
   I dunno....  sendero   Sep-24-07 11:18 AM   #9 
   This is old, old Aristotelian nonsense that has floated around for years  melody   Sep-24-07 11:19 AM   #10 
   The people who wrote the test, do best on the test  Annces   Sep-24-07 11:49 AM   #13 
   So in other words, women are moderates. nt  Javaman   Sep-24-07 11:35 AM   #11 
   It's virtually impossible to untangle the effects of family background..  LeftishBrit   Sep-24-07 12:05 PM   #15 
 

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