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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. you don't have to be a pedophile to commit a sex crime against children.

Of course some pedophile do commit sex crimes against children, but its not a requirement in any way. Its really an assumption to medicalize this crime.
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  -A case against mandatory life imprisonment or the death penalty for sex offenders varkam  Sep-24-07 02:46 AM   #0 
  - As with most things  Mythsaje   Sep-24-07 02:58 AM   #1 
  - Yes, precisely.  varkam   Sep-24-07 03:01 AM   #2 
     - Yeah... I used that example deliberately...  Mythsaje   Sep-24-07 03:05 AM   #3 
        - Indeed.  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:27 PM   #19 
  - That case of William Elliot is sad  kdmorris   Sep-24-07 04:33 AM   #4 
  - I didn't say that 90% of these crimes are committed by someone...  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:29 PM   #20 
     - DOH!  kdmorris   Sep-24-07 03:15 PM   #29 
        - You and me both, friend.  varkam   Sep-24-07 03:27 PM   #31 
  - I agree with you for several reasons, first and foremost is my position that the death penalty is  greyhound1966   Sep-24-07 05:47 AM   #5 
  - As I noted in the post, recidivism rates...  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:31 PM   #21 
     - I didn't say anything about recidivism rates for "sexual offenders", only that of  greyhound1966   Sep-24-07 02:35 PM   #25 
        - Nevermind that you didn't actually link to a study.  varkam   Sep-24-07 02:51 PM   #26 
  - Kick.  Heidi   Sep-24-07 07:24 AM   #6 
  - Protecting the children? How about punishing the fucking rapists?  Katherine Brengle   Sep-24-07 08:17 AM   #7 
  - It is not true....  TwoSparkles   Sep-24-07 11:06 AM   #10 
  - Re-offending means AFTER punishment and release.  the other one   Sep-24-07 11:52 AM   #16 
  - They are punished.  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:37 PM   #22 
  - It sounds very much to me like the Ann Coulter approach to retribution.  TahitiNut   Sep-24-07 04:00 PM   #36 
  - I think it is absolutely CRAZY and PSYCHOPATHIC to sentence a nineteen year old  truedelphi   Sep-24-07 10:17 AM   #8 
  - That is the insanity  BoneDaddy   Sep-24-07 11:10 AM   #12 
     - Wow, the disinformation here is really sad...  TwoSparkles   Sep-24-07 11:29 AM   #14 
        - Indeed, it is.  varkam   Sep-24-07 04:10 PM   #39 
        - I think that was the point  BoneDaddy   Sep-24-07 08:54 PM   #53 
        - It seems to me we are saying what you are saying  truedelphi   Sep-25-07 02:34 PM   #65 
  - It is possible to have harsh punishment....  TwoSparkles   Sep-24-07 10:31 AM   #9 
  - A response  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:26 PM   #18 
  - Good points  BoneDaddy   Sep-24-07 11:09 AM   #11 
  - One size fits all - no, but I say let the upper end be extended to at least life (if not DP).  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 11:21 AM   #13 
  - I'm not sure. Couple problems, though.  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:52 PM   #24 
     - Are you willing to allow for life-imprisonment for some cases or DP in some cases?  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 04:00 PM   #37 
        - DP? Probably not.  varkam   Sep-24-07 04:13 PM   #40 
  - Expect some major flames for this  Hydra   Sep-24-07 11:51 AM   #15 
  - It is ironic  varkam   Sep-24-07 03:05 PM   #28 
     - I've been a victim's advocate  Hydra   Sep-24-07 03:18 PM   #30 
        - I think there's a reason behind it.  varkam   Sep-24-07 03:35 PM   #32 
           - Those probably would be contributing factors  Hydra   Sep-24-07 03:55 PM   #34 
  - THE MENTALLY ILL ARE EVIL!!! POSSESSED!!!  Tyler Durden   Sep-24-07 11:56 AM   #17 
  - Excellent point.  varkam   Sep-24-07 01:41 PM   #23 
  - The voice of reason!  Hydra   Sep-24-07 02:52 PM   #27 
  - errr, we're talking about criminal sexual violence, not mental illness.  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 04:03 PM   #38 
  - Pedophilia is a mental illness.  varkam   Sep-24-07 04:14 PM   #41 
     - you don't have to be a pedophile to commit a sex crime against children.  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 05:05 PM   #46 
        - Someone who RAPES a 5 year old is just evil, not sick.  Tyler Durden   Sep-24-07 05:15 PM   #48 
        - Who are you arguing with? No one here said sexual assaulters are evil  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 05:25 PM   #49 
           - Read all the posts.  Tyler Durden   Sep-24-07 06:59 PM   #50 
              - your analogy is lame. I'd shoot my horse if I couldn't be sure of people's safety.  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 08:40 PM   #52 
                 - Except we're talking about people.  varkam   Sep-24-07 09:55 PM   #54 
                    - His analogy not mine. I agree that one sentence can't do all sex offenses justice  aikoaiko   Sep-25-07 06:24 AM   #61 
                       - I see.  varkam   Sep-25-07 06:40 AM   #62 
                          - sigh. you're making straw men out of what I said.  aikoaiko   Sep-25-07 08:35 AM   #64 
                             - Speaking of strawmen...  varkam   Sep-25-07 02:36 PM   #66 
        - No.  varkam   Sep-24-07 07:32 PM   #51 
  - If pedophiles could be identified without error...  Nabeshin   Sep-25-07 02:38 AM   #57 
     - What?  varkam   Sep-25-07 06:50 AM   #63 
  - Sex crimes are good for politics  PDenton   Sep-24-07 03:41 PM   #33 
  - Along with fearmongering  Hydra   Sep-24-07 03:56 PM   #35 
  - Yes, sex offenders are an easy political target.  varkam   Sep-24-07 04:20 PM   #43 
     - The best way to fight these laws is probably on legal grounds  PDenton   Sep-24-07 04:49 PM   #44 
        - I agree.  varkam   Sep-24-07 04:50 PM   #45 
  - Where's the DU pedo-lynch mod?  Nutmegger   Sep-24-07 04:18 PM   #42 
  - I'm here. :hi:  aikoaiko   Sep-24-07 05:10 PM   #47 
  - I was actually surprised.  varkam   Sep-25-07 02:16 AM   #55 
  - They aren't one size fits all laws...  cynatnite   Sep-25-07 02:33 AM   #56 
  - No, they don't.  varkam   Sep-25-07 04:57 AM   #60 
  - Strawman crap.  Nabeshin   Sep-25-07 02:41 AM   #58 
     - That's ironic.  varkam   Sep-25-07 04:53 AM   #59 
 

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