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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Sure, and when we chastise the powerless for their violence
in the face of life threatening provocation, that's a recipe for ongoing disaster.
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  -RE: Jena 6: the elephant in the room. pepperbear  Sep-22-07 01:00 PM   #0 
  - I agree with what you said should have happened. But this kind of vigilante  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 01:12 PM   #1 
  - Yes, there were better ways to solve this problem  Warpy   Sep-22-07 01:20 PM   #2 
  - The principal expelled the kids who hung the nooses  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:34 PM   #5 
  - A course like that should be part of college GE requirements  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:35 PM   #89 
  - The problem is the fights that resulted in the criminal charges didn't happen at school  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:36 PM   #7 
  - Did you catch that the DA prosecuting these kids was also  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:54 PM   #15 
  - Yes just heard that on Amy Goodman the other day  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 04:35 PM   #65 
  - and the white kids weren't charged  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:59 PM   #22 
  - thank you for adding crucial details, sandnsea. another very  nofurylike   Sep-22-07 07:45 PM   #75 
  - As a matter of fact the party beaing was premeditated. A white girl invited the black  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:35 AM   #81 
  - Not true. You have not heard the whole story. before there were any fights, the  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:30 PM   #29 
  - What vigilante justice?  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 01:44 PM   #9 
  - We're talkiing about teenagers, kids.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:52 PM   #14 
  - The adults ARE the problem!  fortyfeetunder   Sep-22-07 05:55 PM   #69 
     - Oh, I'm sure you're right.  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:33 PM   #88 
  - The authorities at the school ARE the vigilantes. The DA, who also represents the school  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:32 PM   #31 
     - I do not argue about the injustice done to the black students. It is evident, as you point out.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 02:59 PM   #48 
        - His friends all went to the protest last thursday.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:30 AM   #78 
  - I do not believe that the kid who got beat up had anything to do with ...  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 01:27 PM   #3 
  - Accountability is being doled out with wildly different-sized spoons.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 01:36 PM   #6 
  - But if the kid who got beaten up was not responsible for the noose business,  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 01:42 PM   #8 
  - That didn't read to me, anyway, as a rationalization  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:46 PM   #11 
  - Same here. They were just saying that when people hit their limit, anything can set them off. n/t  renie408   Sep-23-07 11:42 AM   #83 
  - There is no requirement that revolt be "just" ... it's an inherently proportional response to ..  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #18 
  - so you are suggesting that it is ok, because of the corrupt leadership  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:07 PM   #24 
  - No, that's not what the poster is saying. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:10 PM   #26 
  - It seems to be a waste of time posting --- since what you're reading apparently is elsewhere.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:19 PM   #27 
     - I believe this is a volatile issue and something that should be  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:27 PM   #28 
        - Hopefully, your resentment will be useful to you. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #35 
        - I hope your judgmental attitude will be useful to you  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #36 
        - I'm completely uninterested in random, anonymous projection. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #38 
        - Something should be.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #39 
           - We used to argue all the time. What the hell is the matter with us?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #42 
              - We will again. We can count on it. (We don't have to dislike each other, though.)  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:45 PM   #43 
                 - Just out of curiosity, do you remember Mountain Charlie's?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:50 PM   #46 
                    - I LOVED Mountain Charley's! Going back to the late 70s, even.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 03:03 PM   #50 
                       - My husband played there regularly on Fridays.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:08 PM   #51 
        - Well, when the foo shits ...  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #37 
           - lovely.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:47 PM   #45 
  - As I have said, the injustice to the black kids was blatant and also unacceptable.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:03 PM   #49 
     - The aspiration to nonviolent civil disobedience isn't reasonably a minimum expectation ...  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 03:20 PM   #52 
        - And so the cycle goes on into the next generation...exactly what  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:25 PM   #54 
           - That's a tall order when the highest law enforcement officer  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:28 PM   #55 
              - Yes, it most certainly is a tall order. I am not disagreeing with you on that.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:47 PM   #56 
                 - Sure, and when we chastise the powerless for their violence  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:50 PM   #57 
                    - I am not chastising. I am merely making a point about violence and referencing Dr. King.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:09 PM   #59 
                       - This isn't a level playing field.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:12 PM   #61 
                          - The playing field during the civil rights struggle was more uneven than it is today.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:25 PM   #63 
                             - And Martin was shot for his trouble.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:33 PM   #64 
                                - So was Gandhi. It is sad... n/t  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:44 PM   #67 
  - Go to democracy and listen to amy goodman's interviews with all the parents of the white and  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #33 
     - You are right.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #41 
        - oh no. That happened after weeks of provocation.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:33 AM   #80 
  - and what bothers me is that Jena was already famous  FLDem5   Sep-22-07 07:32 PM   #73 
     - Again we see how 'justice' is meted out by the powerful.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 08:55 PM   #76 
     - Good ole "we don't have any problems here" Jena  flashl   Sep-23-07 11:49 AM   #84 
  - That's not true  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:56 PM   #17 
  - poor white kids...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #20 
  - I think alot of people did something wrong.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #34 
     - I'm curious...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #40 
     - not as much as I should have been  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:46 PM   #44 
        - DU is not the same as it used to be. We've gotten much better  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:55 PM   #47 
        - It is hard to discuss any issue..  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 03:21 PM   #53 
        - whatever  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 05:06 PM   #68 
           - sorry..I thought you ...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 07:10 PM   #70 
              - Silly girl!  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 08:59 PM   #77 
        - with all due respect, if you haven't been following this case,  Blue_Roses   Sep-23-07 01:46 PM   #90 
     - don't forget the pople hanging nooses.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:31 AM   #79 
  - He was taunting the  NOLALady   Sep-22-07 04:09 PM   #58 
     - In what world is it okay to deliver death threats to our youth?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:38 PM   #66 
        - and the nooses were painted in school colors.  FLDem5   Sep-22-07 07:34 PM   #74 
  - I agree  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:33 PM   #4 
  - Has anyone heard from Anita Garcia? She was going to the protest. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:48 PM   #13 
  - I agree.  cat_girl25   Sep-22-07 01:45 PM   #10 
  - The school burned down and the plan was to build a large,  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:47 PM   #12 
     - The school burned down? When?  hedgehog   Sep-22-07 01:55 PM   #16 
        - Sometime between that incident and now.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:58 PM   #21 
        - from the above link...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:00 PM   #23 
           - Thanks! What really struck me was the description  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:09 PM   #25 
              - it's appalling...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:32 PM   #30 
                 - That's right. It's just like baseball. You have to know how to look.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:33 PM   #32 
                 - In 1992 I moved to Malden (outstide boston) and went to the T-station for the first time and ...  aikoaiko   Sep-22-07 07:24 PM   #71 
  - K&R  dicksteele   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #19 
  - Just realized I've never known: is it pronounced "Jenna" or "Jeena"?  BlooInBloo   Sep-22-07 04:11 PM   #60 
  - I know, me, too. And why that is important escapes me.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:20 PM   #62 
  - Gee-nah  aikoaiko   Sep-22-07 07:26 PM   #72 
     - Thanks!  BlooInBloo   Sep-25-07 10:07 AM   #92 
  - There are consequences for actions. I don't think it is an unimaginable consequence  renie408   Sep-23-07 11:39 AM   #82 
  - It is not alleged that the kid who got beat up was the one  lizzy   Sep-23-07 11:52 AM   #85 
  - The whole community is embroiled in this situation.  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:32 PM   #87 
  - exactly!  Blue_Roses   Sep-23-07 01:30 PM   #86 
  - Careful that you "adults" aren't giving the wrong messasge  laureloak   Sep-25-07 10:02 AM   #91 
     - Here's an excerpt.  laureloak   Sep-25-07 11:11 AM   #93 

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