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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 01:36 PM
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6. Accountability is being doled out with wildly different-sized spoons.
When people, even young people, even high-school people, reach the limits to which they will tolerate oppression and do not find recourse in the civil systems, they/we will engage in violent revolution. One can sit back and, in the comfort of one's own confidence in that system, condemn those engaging in such revolt as "not acceptable" ... but the fact is that revolution is celebrated in this country every year. Tell people celebrating Independence Day that "violence is not acceptable." The FACT of the matter is that it may be all that's left to people when our civil systems fail them ... or us!
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  -RE: Jena 6: the elephant in the room. pepperbear  Sep-22-07 01:00 PM   #0 
  - I agree with what you said should have happened. But this kind of vigilante  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 01:12 PM   #1 
  - Yes, there were better ways to solve this problem  Warpy   Sep-22-07 01:20 PM   #2 
  - The principal expelled the kids who hung the nooses  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:34 PM   #5 
  - A course like that should be part of college GE requirements  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:35 PM   #89 
  - The problem is the fights that resulted in the criminal charges didn't happen at school  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:36 PM   #7 
  - Did you catch that the DA prosecuting these kids was also  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:54 PM   #15 
  - Yes just heard that on Amy Goodman the other day  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 04:35 PM   #65 
  - and the white kids weren't charged  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:59 PM   #22 
  - thank you for adding crucial details, sandnsea. another very  nofurylike   Sep-22-07 07:45 PM   #75 
  - As a matter of fact the party beaing was premeditated. A white girl invited the black  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:35 AM   #81 
  - Not true. You have not heard the whole story. before there were any fights, the  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:30 PM   #29 
  - What vigilante justice?  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 01:44 PM   #9 
  - We're talkiing about teenagers, kids.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:52 PM   #14 
  - The adults ARE the problem!  fortyfeetunder   Sep-22-07 05:55 PM   #69 
     - Oh, I'm sure you're right.  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:33 PM   #88 
  - The authorities at the school ARE the vigilantes. The DA, who also represents the school  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:32 PM   #31 
     - I do not argue about the injustice done to the black students. It is evident, as you point out.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 02:59 PM   #48 
        - His friends all went to the protest last thursday.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:30 AM   #78 
  - I do not believe that the kid who got beat up had anything to do with ...  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 01:27 PM   #3 
  - Accountability is being doled out with wildly different-sized spoons.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 01:36 PM   #6 
  - But if the kid who got beaten up was not responsible for the noose business,  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 01:42 PM   #8 
  - That didn't read to me, anyway, as a rationalization  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:46 PM   #11 
  - Same here. They were just saying that when people hit their limit, anything can set them off. n/t  renie408   Sep-23-07 11:42 AM   #83 
  - There is no requirement that revolt be "just" ... it's an inherently proportional response to ..  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #18 
  - so you are suggesting that it is ok, because of the corrupt leadership  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:07 PM   #24 
  - No, that's not what the poster is saying. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:10 PM   #26 
  - It seems to be a waste of time posting --- since what you're reading apparently is elsewhere.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:19 PM   #27 
     - I believe this is a volatile issue and something that should be  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:27 PM   #28 
        - Hopefully, your resentment will be useful to you. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #35 
        - I hope your judgmental attitude will be useful to you  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #36 
        - I'm completely uninterested in random, anonymous projection. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #38 
        - Something should be.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #39 
           - We used to argue all the time. What the hell is the matter with us?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #42 
              - We will again. We can count on it. (We don't have to dislike each other, though.)  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:45 PM   #43 
                 - Just out of curiosity, do you remember Mountain Charlie's?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:50 PM   #46 
                    - I LOVED Mountain Charley's! Going back to the late 70s, even.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 03:03 PM   #50 
                       - My husband played there regularly on Fridays.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:08 PM   #51 
        - Well, when the foo shits ...  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 02:37 PM   #37 
           - lovely.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:47 PM   #45 
  - As I have said, the injustice to the black kids was blatant and also unacceptable.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:03 PM   #49 
     - The aspiration to nonviolent civil disobedience isn't reasonably a minimum expectation ...  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 03:20 PM   #52 
        - And so the cycle goes on into the next generation...exactly what  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:25 PM   #54 
           - That's a tall order when the highest law enforcement officer  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:28 PM   #55 
              - Yes, it most certainly is a tall order. I am not disagreeing with you on that.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 03:47 PM   #56 
                 - Sure, and when we chastise the powerless for their violence  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 03:50 PM   #57 
                    - I am not chastising. I am merely making a point about violence and referencing Dr. King.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:09 PM   #59 
                       - This isn't a level playing field.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:12 PM   #61 
                          - The playing field during the civil rights struggle was more uneven than it is today.  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:25 PM   #63 
                             - And Martin was shot for his trouble.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:33 PM   #64 
                                - So was Gandhi. It is sad... n/t  CTyankee   Sep-22-07 04:44 PM   #67 
  - Go to democracy now.org and listen to amy goodman's interviews with all the parents of the white and  robinlynne   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #33 
     - You are right.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #41 
        - oh no. That happened after weeks of provocation.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:33 AM   #80 
  - and what bothers me is that Jena was already famous  FLDem5   Sep-22-07 07:32 PM   #73 
     - Again we see how 'justice' is meted out by the powerful.  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 08:55 PM   #76 
     - Good ole "we don't have any problems here" Jena  flashl   Sep-23-07 11:49 AM   #84 
  - That's not true  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:56 PM   #17 
  - poor white kids...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #20 
  - I think alot of people did something wrong.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:34 PM   #34 
     - I'm curious...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:38 PM   #40 
     - not as much as I should have been  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 02:46 PM   #44 
        - DU is not the same as it used to be. We've gotten much better  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:55 PM   #47 
        - It is hard to discuss any issue..  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 03:21 PM   #53 
        - whatever  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-22-07 05:06 PM   #68 
           - sorry..I thought you ...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 07:10 PM   #70 
              - Silly girl!  TahitiNut   Sep-22-07 08:59 PM   #77 
        - with all due respect, if you haven't been following this case,  Blue_Roses   Sep-23-07 01:46 PM   #90 
     - don't forget the pople hanging nooses.  robinlynne   Sep-23-07 11:31 AM   #79 
  - He was taunting the  NOLALady   Sep-22-07 04:09 PM   #58 
     - In what world is it okay to deliver death threats to our youth?  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:38 PM   #66 
        - and the nooses were painted in school colors.  FLDem5   Sep-22-07 07:34 PM   #74 
  - I agree  proud2Blib   Sep-22-07 01:33 PM   #4 
  - Has anyone heard from Anita Garcia? She was going to the protest. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:48 PM   #13 
  - I agree.  cat_girl25   Sep-22-07 01:45 PM   #10 
  - The school burned down and the plan was to build a large,  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:47 PM   #12 
     - The school burned down? When?  hedgehog   Sep-22-07 01:55 PM   #16 
        - Sometime between that incident and now.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 01:58 PM   #21 
        - from the above link...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:00 PM   #23 
           - Thanks! What really struck me was the description  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:09 PM   #25 
              - it's appalling...  stillcool47   Sep-22-07 02:32 PM   #30 
                 - That's right. It's just like baseball. You have to know how to look.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 02:33 PM   #32 
                 - In 1992 I moved to Malden (outstide boston) and went to the T-station for the first time and ...  aikoaiko   Sep-22-07 07:24 PM   #71 
  - K&R  dicksteele   Sep-22-07 01:57 PM   #19 
  - Just realized I've never known: is it pronounced "Jenna" or "Jeena"?  BlooInBloo   Sep-22-07 04:11 PM   #60 
  - I know, me, too. And why that is important escapes me.  sfexpat2000   Sep-22-07 04:20 PM   #62 
  - Gee-nah  aikoaiko   Sep-22-07 07:26 PM   #72 
     - Thanks!  BlooInBloo   Sep-25-07 10:07 AM   #92 
  - There are consequences for actions. I don't think it is an unimaginable consequence  renie408   Sep-23-07 11:39 AM   #82 
  - It is not alleged that the kid who got beat up was the one  lizzy   Sep-23-07 11:52 AM   #85 
  - The whole community is embroiled in this situation.  sfexpat2000   Sep-23-07 01:32 PM   #87 
  - exactly!  Blue_Roses   Sep-23-07 01:30 PM   #86 
  - Careful that you "adults" aren't giving the wrong messasge  laureloak   Sep-25-07 10:02 AM   #91 
     - Here's an excerpt.  laureloak   Sep-25-07 11:11 AM   #93 
 

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