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Reply #51: What can we do? We can stand and be true. [View All]

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51. What can we do? We can stand and be true.
We can do everything we feel right about, everything our conscience will allow, to keep fighting Bushevik Tyranny, even if the cause is lost. It's no less than the Founding Fathers gave us when they won their revolution and gave us our Republic "if we can keep it".

It's no less than their memory deserves.

The point is to go down fighting, if we are to go down, and the point is never give up because striving against tyranny is one of our duties as human beings, I believe.

So many people here misunderstand me, thinking i am one of these people who get off on crying "woe betides us. We're doomed."

Actually, quite the opposite. I would give anything to be able to reasonably make a case that we aren't, at the very least, damned close to losing our liberty in every sense of the word.

But I can't. At least, and not be true to my own analysis of the evidence as well as that of my eyes and ears.

Most DUers don't know it, likely, because the instances are so rare, but I mark EVERY hopeful thing I come across with a happy or congratulatory post.

Really. They're all archived on DU servers with everything else I have ever posted.

I will NEVER give up fighting the Bushies, and all tyrannies over the mind of men, to paraphrase Tom Jefferson, my second favorite Founding Father.

I hope this clears some things up.
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  Debunking "The Myth of 60 Votes and Fillibuster"...what our Dems Could Do.....but don't KoKo01  Sep-20-07 12:54 PM   #0 
   ...  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 01:13 PM   #1 
   Recommended for anyone with low blood pressure  karlrschneider   Sep-20-07 01:15 PM   #2 
   A new superhero?  Trisket-Bisket   Sep-20-07 01:27 PM   #3 
   Oh please. It was a disaster for Newty because he was an arrogant, obnoxious, hypocritical asshole.  Raster   Sep-20-07 01:44 PM   #8 
      Thank you for the welcome.  Trisket-Bisket   Sep-20-07 02:03 PM   #11 
      Um, Bush is an arrogant, obnoxious, hypocritical asshole  niceypoo   Sep-21-07 09:31 AM   #57 
   We're being manipulated.  kwyjibo   Sep-20-07 01:29 PM   #4 
   It's because the Dems allow the Repubs to control the process.  AtomicKitten   Sep-20-07 01:30 PM   #5 
   The dems in office are f*ing lossers  landonb16   Sep-20-07 01:35 PM   #6 
   It's more that their "strategy" doesn't seem to be there...and it's hard to know  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 01:38 PM   #7 
      I am sick of them  landonb16   Sep-20-07 01:55 PM   #9 
         We have to find ways to change this...but it's better to know what's going on than not....  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 05:30 PM   #22 
            agree  landonb16   Sep-20-07 11:15 PM   #50 
   Reid isn't even making them filibuster!  Hardhead   Sep-20-07 02:00 PM   #10 
   If Reid got a postcard that said "this is a stickup", he'd mail the sender his wallet and watch.  dicksteele   Sep-20-07 06:35 PM   #29 
      You got it--they give up without a fight  tbyg52   Sep-20-07 08:03 PM   #32 
   ....  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 03:50 PM   #12 
   Good Cop...Bad Cop....All working for the same bosses...  Junkdrawer   Sep-20-07 03:58 PM   #13 
   I didn't want to believe it. I STILL don't want to believe it.  tom_paine   Sep-20-07 04:07 PM   #16 
      Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends....  Junkdrawer   Sep-20-07 04:29 PM   #19 
      The only good thing is that ...it's Coming Out...it's so bad that nothing can be concealed  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 05:33 PM   #23 
      You're right... it's very painful. It's why some have given up... it hurts too much to look  bobbolink   Sep-20-07 08:54 PM   #38 
   The DLCers & "centrists" call it "keeping your powder dry"-we do it even when we are the majority.  Dr Fate   Sep-20-07 04:02 PM   #14 
   I am faxing that with circles and arrows to my critters. . n/t  annabanana   Sep-20-07 04:03 PM   #15 
   The anthrax killer is still on the loose..  The Vinyl Ripper   Sep-20-07 04:22 PM   #17 
   That one still perplexes me too.  harun   Sep-20-07 04:25 PM   #18 
   A "Sense of the Senate" resolution: Send us Articles of Impeachment  pat_k   Sep-20-07 05:13 PM   #20 
   I honestly believe that Harry Reid has NO IDEA what the Senate Rules are  MrCoffee   Sep-20-07 05:19 PM   #21 
   I think maybe there are folks in Congress that really don't care about the Constitution  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 05:38 PM   #26 
   Rubbish.  ellisonz   Sep-20-07 05:35 PM   #24 
   We're being played for fools and it's all just a dog and pony show to wait it out  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-20-07 05:38 PM   #25 
   What IS IT...that the "Dog & Pony Show" will achieve, though?  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 05:40 PM   #27 
      It holds the whole crooked ball of wax together, don't you see?  tom_paine   Sep-20-07 06:24 PM   #28 
      If you with your views are here with me, with my views which go along with yours ...then  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 08:50 PM   #36 
      What can we do? We can stand and be true.  tom_paine   Sep-21-07 01:13 AM   #51 
      A la Lanterne!  Demeter   Sep-21-07 09:13 AM   #56 
      I think they're just buying time with their little shows. They're waiting until after the primaries  in_cog_ni_to   Sep-20-07 06:38 PM   #30 
         But...then "after Primaries" when the Dem Presidential Candidate is Picked  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 08:53 PM   #37 
   Dammit, I am tired of this fake filibuster  tbyg52   Sep-20-07 07:42 PM   #31 
   Is this what "they've been doing" that's caused us Dems out here to be upset?  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 08:05 PM   #33 
   Is this the Truth...or ae there any counter arguments? n/t  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 08:48 PM   #34 
   I'll kick that. - n/t  porphyrian   Sep-20-07 08:49 PM   #35 
   our democracy is gone. we live in a one party system.  toadzilla   Sep-20-07 09:01 PM   #39 
   K&R  notsodumbhillbilly   Sep-20-07 09:14 PM   #40 
   Wow. Way to suck ass  JVS   Sep-20-07 09:15 PM   #41 
   K  Nimrod2005   Sep-20-07 09:16 PM   #42 
   I thought the reasoning was that if they didn't get sixty then bushy could play veto  AuntPatsy   Sep-20-07 09:18 PM   #43 
   It's worrysome they give up saying "Bush will Veto ...so what's the point...  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 10:04 PM   #44 
   Worrisome indeed, no one regardless of party affiliation should have that much control.  AuntPatsy   Sep-20-07 10:07 PM   #45 
      From what I've read...it started with Reagan.. Repugs felt Nixon lost power  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 10:12 PM   #46 
         I have heard that, what I find a bit unnerving is that it is now well know  AuntPatsy   Sep-20-07 10:30 PM   #47 
            what you say: "find the right man behind the curtain."  KoKo01   Sep-20-07 10:35 PM   #48 
   Let him veto  IronLionZion   Sep-21-07 09:37 AM   #58 
   I have been saying this over and over. And people want to know why we are angry?  robinlynne   Sep-20-07 10:44 PM   #49 
   didin't we already have one of those overnighters?  bigtree   Sep-21-07 01:40 AM   #52 
   the wear and tear on his veto crayon...  liberalla   Sep-21-07 05:15 AM   #53 
   Unfuckingbelievable.  The Stranger   Sep-21-07 05:19 AM   #54 
   ...  KoKo01   Sep-21-07 08:41 AM   #55 
   Wrote and posted and this 7:55 the same day.  plantwomyn   Sep-21-07 10:28 AM   #59 
   Dems want to look in control is my guess, but they look like wimps instead  McCamy Taylor   Sep-21-07 01:49 PM   #60 
   what a useless congress  f the letter   Sep-22-07 12:44 AM   #61 
   ...  KoKo01   Sep-22-07 11:37 AM   #62 
 

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