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MoveOn.org Didn't Invent BetrayUs- The Troops Did! Updated at 12:06 PM
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MoveOn.org Didn't Invent BetrayUs- The Troops Did!

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.....the origins of the nickname "Betrayus".

Many people are falsely assuming that "Betrayus" was a clever rhyme made up by Moveon.org for the New York Times ad. Which I think is a key assumption for this ad controversy to work for the republicans.

And that assumption is false. The nickname did not originate with Moveon.org.

I clearly remember reading Petraeus's nickname on various military forums/comment threads over two years ago. I remember it so because I thought it was very clever and suitable nickname. In the past couple of months, I have also started seeing the nickname used on progressive blogs and comments.

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Here's a comment from 2005:

FromBLACKFIVE: Generals of yesterday and today
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/11/generals_of_yes.h...

I don't know GEN Petraeus personally...but when I was in the "Devil Brigade" folks called him "Colonel Betrayus". He came up with things like the "Devil button" (button your BDU collar up to the top when on jumps) and the "Devil grip" (special name for keeping your trigger finger out of the trigger well) which sounded hokey to most of the troops at the time.

Can any other All American paratroopers out there expand on my comment?

Posted by: TBone | November 19, 2005 at 10:52 AM

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Update: Terre in the comments has a great find:

From the Times Online

Americans doubt ‘General Betraeus’ over troop surge (8/19/07):

AFTER being hailed as King David, the potential saviour of Iraq, the US commander General David Petraeus is facing a backlash in advance of his report to Congress in September on the progress of America’s troop surge.

Critics, including one recently retired general, are privately calling him "General Betraeus" on the grounds that he is too ambitious to deliver a balanced report on the war.

Lawrence Korb, a defence official under Ronald Reagan who is now at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank, said Petraeus was regarded as "the most political general since General (Douglas) Mac-Arthur", a reference to the second world war hero who was touted as a possible president.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/articl...

and more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/18/215826/698
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  MoveOn.org Didn't Invent BetrayUs- The Troops Did! kpete  Sep-19-07 08:01 AM   #0 
   Here you go..  The Vinyl Ripper   Sep-19-07 08:06 AM   #1 
   Re Korb talking about Patraeus being the most political general.. I heard Patraeus a few months  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-19-07 08:13 AM   #2 
   I Googled Patraeus when I first heard his name  Skittles   Sep-20-07 07:47 AM   #36 
   Excellent work.  mmonk   Sep-19-07 08:14 AM   #3 
   Pleased to be 5th recommend! This is an extremely important find  Justice   Sep-19-07 08:37 AM   #4 
   k&r!  bushmeat   Sep-19-07 08:48 AM   #5 
   Hmm, How come I didn't see this on CNN?  progressoid   Sep-19-07 10:15 AM   #6 
   i can attest  fenriswolf   Sep-19-07 01:59 PM   #7 
   Welcome to DU, fenriswolf...  arendt   Sep-19-07 06:50 PM   #15 
      I am IRR (inactive reserve)  fenriswolf   Sep-19-07 07:41 PM   #17 
   Clearly the Dems should apologize for the troops who have called him Betray-us  me b zola   Sep-19-07 02:14 PM   #8 
   Kick  Poiuyt   Sep-19-07 04:18 PM   #9 
   LOL, Richardson was just on with Wolfie  me b zola   Sep-19-07 04:22 PM   #10 
   Yesterday I got an e-mail from Richardson's campaign...  Just-plain-Kathy   Sep-20-07 08:00 AM   #37 
   I remember it being used here when they had the confirmation hearings.  MiniMe   Sep-19-07 04:27 PM   #11 
   I knew I heard that before! Thanks!  The Count   Sep-19-07 06:07 PM   #12 
   anyone who heard his name called him that  Tunkamerica   Sep-19-07 06:46 PM   #13 
   lol  fenriswolf   Sep-19-07 08:01 PM   #20 
      HA!  Tunkamerica   Sep-20-07 01:18 AM   #31 
   not surprised n/t  MethuenProgressive   Sep-19-07 06:47 PM   #14 
   I had this feeling that was the case  Jed Dilligan   Sep-19-07 06:53 PM   #16 
   Dems that say it was wrong for Move On to question are  Disturbed   Sep-19-07 07:52 PM   #18 
      You do realize  sailor65   Sep-19-07 09:07 PM   #24 
   I'm not surprised at all  goodgd_yall   Sep-19-07 08:00 PM   #19 
   true - long before the add - I heard it used  Solly Mack   Sep-19-07 08:11 PM   #21 
   Why do repukes hate the troops so much?  KamaAina   Sep-19-07 08:14 PM   #22 
   Anyone Around During Viet Nam & Can Stand To Tell The Truth  ChiciB1   Sep-19-07 09:05 PM   #23 
   Fraggings have been done in every war we've been in. (Probably other countries, too.)  TahitiNut   Sep-20-07 01:11 AM   #30 
      Sorry... Had To Go Out Of Town Today... But I Do Admit That I Was  ChiciB1   Sep-20-07 04:34 PM   #41 
   Stick that in cornyn pipe and  zidzi   Sep-19-07 09:10 PM   #25 
   I said it on Feb 7, 2007...  TwoSparkles   Sep-19-07 10:20 PM   #26 
   Wasn't he the one in charge of training the Iraqi troops?  spag68   Sep-20-07 12:27 AM   #27 
   NOW this...I like  PianoBlack   Sep-20-07 01:00 AM   #28 
   You can't make this stuff up. Good for them. n/t  sfexpat2000   Sep-20-07 01:01 AM   #29 
   MoveOn should have made that point earlier -  leveymg   Sep-20-07 01:54 AM   #32 
   Hopefully they will learn  B Calm   Sep-20-07 06:29 AM   #34 
   We should stop defending this  Gman   Sep-20-07 06:18 AM   #33 
   I just want to thank MoveOn.org for bringing this to the forefront  Eagle_Eye   Sep-20-07 07:06 AM   #35 
   A LONG time ago  MsMagnificent   Sep-20-07 08:21 AM   #38 
   I don't care if it was Johnny Cochran...  Macchendra   Sep-20-07 10:47 AM   #39 
   .  Junkdrawer   Sep-20-07 11:40 AM   #40 
 

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