Connie_Corleone
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Tue Sep-18-07 05:17 PM
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| 16. It's a damn shame what people here and Randi Rhodes are saying about Kerry. |
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How the hell was he supposed to know that guy was tasered when the commotion was going on in the back of the auditorium? And you can hear Kerry on the video saying he wanted to answer the guy's questions and telling people to calm down.
And I'm the last person to defend Kerry. I've had my criticisms of him, but this attack (yes, attack) on him is unfair.
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| -DUers: Read this RE: Kerry/Taser situation for some perspective... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 04:09 PM |
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I doubt that anything is going to convince some people that Kerry did what he could. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 04:16 PM |
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Kerry did everything right. But everyone else should be ashamed |
bos1 |
Sep-19-07 02:42 AM |
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This is BS. |
Mugsy |
Sep-19-07 12:09 PM |
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IMAGE, PEOPLE, IMAGE! |
JFN1 |
Sep-19-07 12:25 PM |
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It would be crazy for Kerry to try to take authority from police. |
IMModerate |
Sep-19-07 01:15 PM |
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Scenario: Senator Kerry leaps from the stage into the mosh pit, giving new meaning to "supporters.." |
IMModerate |
Sep-19-07 01:42 PM |
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B.S. on you...holding Kerry responsible is idiotic... |
rfranklin |
Sep-19-07 01:51 PM |
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Thank you Rp |
jkshaw |
Sep-18-07 04:18 PM |
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Thank you for this, |
rwheeler31 |
Sep-18-07 04:21 PM |
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Precisely why I don't listen to her |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 04:30 PM |
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I hope some people will call her and ask for a retraction |
MH1 |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Absolutely K&R |
Felinity |
Sep-18-07 04:38 PM |
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Randi will apologize if she is wrong. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-07 10:13 PM |
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Randi |
PhilipDC |
Sep-19-07 10:45 AM |
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She's on it again today |
wryter2000 |
Sep-19-07 03:12 PM |
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K&R. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 04:26 PM |
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K&R |
politicasista |
Sep-18-07 04:27 PM |
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I hope I helped to kick this to the front page. |
FitzmasAgain |
Sep-18-07 04:36 PM |
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It still won't matter to those wishing to malign Sen kerry sad as the truth may be. |
AuntPatsy |
Sep-18-07 04:38 PM |
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I like Kerry and campaigned for him early in the 2004 primary. |
truckin |
Sep-19-07 03:59 PM |
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what a great post... |
stillcool47 |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Thank you. K+R eom. |
Artiechoke |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. I could not believe the number of people that jumped to conclusions |
Minimus |
Sep-18-07 04:45 PM |
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K & R |
karynnj |
Sep-18-07 05:10 PM |
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One thing I noticed was how the disruptor "managed" the encounter. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-18-07 05:12 PM |
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Oh Baloney! Even if you carefully orchestrate some actions |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 12:39 PM |
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The police did everything by ther book as far as I could see. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-19-07 02:26 PM |
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Except whenyou are in your car, you are under the Authority of |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 02:34 PM |
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He has answered that question on multiple occasions |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 03:13 PM |
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Thank you for that. |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 03:19 PM |
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He planned to challenge the Ohio election |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 05:00 PM |
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And you are trained solely in dealing with "obstroperous" people. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 06:37 AM |
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Look I don't get paid all that well |
truedelphi |
Sep-20-07 02:52 PM |
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You are still trained to do one job, and hopefully to do it well. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 04:12 PM |
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Now point by point. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 07:17 AM |
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CAn I point out one thing that you have wrong (After all you just met me) |
truedelphi |
Sep-20-07 04:30 PM |
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O.K. I made some assumptions which are unfounded. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 05:12 PM |
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perpective |
reggie the dog |
Sep-19-07 04:09 PM |
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It's a damn shame what people here and Randi Rhodes are saying about Kerry. |
Connie_Corleone |
Sep-18-07 05:17 PM |
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What I find strange is... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 05:45 PM |
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People are still fighting the '04 primaries. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 05:51 PM |
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That's the point Will Pitt was making in another thread |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-18-07 10:06 PM |
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You got it wrong |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:14 AM |
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There is only one thing that needs to be said |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:12 AM |
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Oh my your just too smart for the rest of us. |
sallyseven |
Sep-19-07 10:58 AM |
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sorry but you might want to read some Kerry Biographies |
LSK |
Sep-19-07 01:03 PM |
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Additionally, Kerry was only asked into S&B because he was head of the Yale Political Union |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 03:16 PM |
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You mean the first debate where he decimated Bush |
karynnj |
Sep-19-07 03:59 PM |
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How the hell did this thread sink? |
cryingshame |
Sep-18-07 05:37 PM |
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Because it includes facts? |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 05:47 PM |
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I still think there is plenty of reason for outrage at |
bbgrunt |
Sep-18-07 05:50 PM |
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I don't disagree |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 05:54 PM |
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No arguement with that -- It is |
cadmium |
Sep-18-07 05:55 PM |
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Poor Kerry, what could he do? |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:16 AM |
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The university authorities are who blew it |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-18-07 06:05 PM |
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I just saw the video for the first time. |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Sep-18-07 06:24 PM |
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Very true |
OzarkDem |
Sep-18-07 09:24 PM |
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No. This kid set this up from this begining. He even had people videotaping it. |
jobycom |
Sep-19-07 09:31 AM |
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Cops acted with restraint??? |
neoteric lefty |
Sep-19-07 01:00 PM |
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I agree with most of what you said... |
ShaneGR |
Sep-19-07 11:07 PM |
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That stupid microphone... |
jadedconformist |
Sep-19-07 04:04 PM |
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Actually we do not know what the student would have done |
karynnj |
Sep-19-07 04:05 PM |
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Thank you -- this puts a lot more perspective on the incident. |
8_year_nightmare |
Sep-18-07 06:24 PM |
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We'll not have any of that "perspective" crap here! |
mzmolly |
Sep-18-07 06:46 PM |
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Whom to trust? My lying eyes or a damage control statement? Decisions, decisions.... |
The Count |
Sep-18-07 06:55 PM |
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My thoughts exactly - damn these lying eyes. I should remember to check |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 05:34 PM |
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Bluerthanblue |
Sep-18-07 07:46 PM |
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This is Greg Palast's take on the incident |
AikidoSoul |
Sep-18-07 09:17 PM |
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Most likely, he COULDN'T drop the book. |
blackops |
Sep-18-07 09:56 PM |
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Was he there? Sounds like he hasn't heard the whole story |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-18-07 10:09 PM |
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I like Greg Palast as much as anyone but.. |
XOKCowboy |
Sep-18-07 10:36 PM |
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Gee, You think Palast has an agenda here? |
bluescribbler |
Sep-19-07 10:18 AM |
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Does Palasts books have video recording and send back feeds to Palast??? |
LSK |
Sep-19-07 01:08 PM |
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Congratulations.... |
AntiFascist |
Sep-19-07 03:16 PM |
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I wasn't there during that incident |
FloridaJudy |
Sep-18-07 09:56 PM |
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kick |
JI7 |
Sep-18-07 10:17 PM |
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Kerry did nothing wrong. The "kid" didn't want an answer. He wanted to rant.. |
XOKCowboy |
Sep-18-07 10:33 PM |
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Sure, he was an asshole, but that was no reason for the police to assault him. |
obiwan |
Sep-19-07 12:25 AM |
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Yes that is a point -- the should have taken him outside. They need to |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:43 PM |
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Thank you. I can not comprehend how people blame Kerry for this. |
wisteria |
Sep-18-07 10:58 PM |
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Great, thanks. So, what's stopping JK from answering the questions now? |
snot |
Sep-18-07 11:22 PM |
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Maybe he did and you don't like his answer. |
sallyseven |
Sep-19-07 11:10 AM |
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If you think he's ever answered these questions, pls point me to where. |
snot |
Sep-19-07 11:00 PM |
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So would I./ Have called his office in Massachusettts and a staffer said they |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 02:58 PM |
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Thank you. |
snot |
Sep-19-07 11:02 PM |
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Bullshit! This is nothing more than obfuscation by Sen. Kerry |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 12:10 AM |
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The man had butted through the line and caused tension with campus police |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 07:59 AM |
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I only blame Sen. Kerry for his own action, or lack thereof |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 07:30 PM |
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Bullshit! Your post is nothing more than an ignorant rant |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 09:39 AM |
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Right back atcha |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 07:27 PM |
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I don't blame Kerry, I blame the cops. |
obiwan |
Sep-19-07 12:21 AM |
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BLOWJOB? |
happygoluckytoyou |
Sep-19-07 01:05 AM |
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I agree completely-- Kerry could have handled the situation with ease.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:15 AM |
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Boy, there are some DUers I hope never appear on a jury |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 01:26 AM |
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no no-- he wasn't being tased at the time, IIRC.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:38 AM |
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John Kerry Did nothing wrong except... |
iburl |
Sep-19-07 01:44 AM |
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Okay, that makes more sense |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 01:49 AM |
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I want to emphasize that Kerry could have EASILY handled the situation.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:59 AM |
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I don't agree with the cops' choice to "walk" him, which escalated the incident |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 02:00 AM |
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Thanx for posting this |
JohnnyRingo |
Sep-19-07 02:34 AM |
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Historical perspective |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 03:33 AM |
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John Kerry personally tasered this poor boy 27 times. |
onehandle |
Sep-19-07 06:10 AM |
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Thank you! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Sep-19-07 07:13 AM |
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Kerry's inaction is what he did wrong |
DWilliamsamh |
Sep-19-07 07:24 AM |
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I disagree with your assessment wholeheartedly... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 07:54 AM |
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It's fine that you disagree.... |
DWilliamsamh |
Sep-19-07 09:13 AM |
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The only problem with your analysis is that |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 03:13 PM |
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Right on! |
rucognizant |
Sep-19-07 08:45 AM |
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Not to get off topic but you're saying Michelle Obama is bad for not leaving her kids to campaign? |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:07 AM |
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I've tried to ignore this incident for the inevitable Monday morning quarterbacking... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Sep-19-07 07:24 AM |
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i am among the outraged but am baffled by any directed towards Kerry |
mark414 |
Sep-19-07 07:50 AM |
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Me, too. Outrage at cops using Taser, not at Kerry, |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-19-07 08:26 AM |
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Exactly- I think what happened here was horrible |
nam78_two |
Sep-19-07 07:15 PM |
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Thank you |
thetaoofterri |
Sep-19-07 08:22 AM |
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If a Senator stands by and watches........... |
BlueJac |
Sep-19-07 08:36 AM |
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Wrong on all counts. |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:17 AM |
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This is the point. |
5446 |
Sep-19-07 09:18 AM |
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This was not about asking questions. |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:27 AM |
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Your post is a monument to idiocy everywhere! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 09:43 AM |
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Because furniture is, like, inanimate |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 11:05 AM |
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K & R |
rosesaylavee |
Sep-19-07 09:15 AM |
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I think anyone that cuts in line... |
jdadd |
Sep-19-07 09:39 AM |
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DUer Please! |
Unca Jim |
Sep-19-07 11:01 AM |
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I could have guessed as much. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-19-07 11:12 AM |
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THE GUY WAS TAZERED FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! |
FedUp_Queer |
Sep-19-07 11:49 AM |
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Personally I am glad he was tazered...voltage was too low... |
rfranklin |
Sep-19-07 01:53 PM |
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Sorry - I don't buy Kerry's explanation |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 11:53 AM |
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I do not buy it either. |
MetalCanuck |
Sep-19-07 12:24 PM |
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LOL! You are about a subtle as a freight train |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 01:45 PM |
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Compare and contrast |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-19-07 12:39 PM |
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Not really a analagous comparison. Confrontive |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:40 PM |
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If Kerry Has To Be Responsible |
Raejeanowl |
Sep-19-07 01:09 PM |
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what kerry did wrong was |
lame54 |
Sep-19-07 01:12 PM |
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For all the people defending the police/kerry... |
Musty |
Sep-19-07 01:14 PM |
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EXACTLY... |
FedUp_Queer |
Sep-19-07 01:56 PM |
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and you do? |
paulk |
Sep-19-07 04:55 PM |
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This is a misleading post---There is a difference |
cadmium |
Sep-20-07 07:01 PM |
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I love Kerry... |
jodini |
Sep-19-07 02:16 PM |
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I'm listening |
Spoonerian |
Sep-19-07 02:19 PM |
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Utter Bullshit! I just watched the entire video. There is NO excuse for what |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 02:34 PM |
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I does matter what Kerry could see. No excuse for the tasing but |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:35 PM |
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I don't know what video you watched -- but there was no way that the |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 05:31 PM |
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Dam right! |
Apollo11 |
Sep-20-07 06:43 AM |
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The best video is the one |
cadmium |
Sep-20-07 06:48 PM |
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Yeah, I'd blame a very reactionary police force than Kerry here. He was answering from what I heard. |
cooolandrew |
Sep-19-07 02:45 PM |
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I voted for John Kerry in '04. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Sep-19-07 04:21 PM |
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Senator Kerry is one of our best senators.nt |
nam78_two |
Sep-19-07 07:12 PM |
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Fine. Whatever. I'd like the answer to the question |
DS1 |
Sep-19-07 07:13 PM |
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He's answered many times already, |
dailykoff |
Sep-19-07 07:30 PM |
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How about Skull and Bones? |
DS1 |
Sep-19-07 07:40 PM |
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What it sounds like. |
dailykoff |
Sep-19-07 08:05 PM |
#139 |
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