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I would be willing to bet Hillary gets the Democratic nomination. AND I think she will win the general election.
Most women are ready for a woman president. Those who need health care will remember she tried to get national health care and was way ahead of her time. Hillary is smart, tough, and disciplined and when the republican attack machine starts on her she will rise above it and they will look like the asses that they truly are.
Is she my first choice? I don't know. I'm not thrilled with any of the rest of them who are electable. So, rather than get my panties in a wad over what Hillary hasn't done I will revel in the fact that I was living when the first woman president of the United States was elected.
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| -If you think Hillary Clinton can't win a general election, |
cali |
Sep-16-07 07:48 AM |
#0 |
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HRC is poison to the Democratic Party, IMO, as Nominee in the general election. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 07:54 AM |
#1 |
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Another CFAP |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:02 AM |
#4 |
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You're excellent at bashing anyone who disagrees with you, but the truth is The BASE won't vote for |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:06 AM |
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LOL. For a fine example of bashing, read your own 1st post in |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:14 AM |
#18 |
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Who Appointed You God And Voice Of The Base |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:22 AM |
# |
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No one, but I qualified it as my personal opinion. Often times I just happen to be correct. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:30 AM |
#34 |
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You know The Old Saw About Opinions |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:37 AM |
#43 |
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Very insightful. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:56 AM |
#60 |
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self-delete |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:31 AM |
#36 |
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I'll vote for Hillary |
emilyg |
Sep-16-07 01:01 PM |
#230 |
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Nonsense |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 08:27 AM |
#27 |
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As opposed to blind support for her and the party |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:11 AM |
#172 |
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So who will you vote for, IF she does get the nomination? |
hlthe2b |
Sep-16-07 08:37 AM |
#44 |
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I agree totally, ShortnFiery |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:00 AM |
#64 |
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how about |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:07 AM |
#67 |
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means squat |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:14 AM |
#74 |
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If you don't want to learn |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:17 AM |
#79 |
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Once again |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:25 AM |
#92 |
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LOL |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:31 AM |
#102 |
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BECAUSE OF THE WAR |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:48 AM |
#130 |
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Well you'll be happy to know |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:49 AM |
#131 |
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Too little, too late |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 10:12 AM |
#173 |
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Well, a pro-choice president is important to many of us |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:18 AM |
#81 |
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Seems to me that some repuke appointments |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:28 AM |
#97 |
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That will never happen again. NEVER. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:40 AM |
#118 |
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Then I guess "pro-choice" will extend to "choice for endless occupations" ? nt |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:29 AM |
#99 |
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What? Really, try thinking. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:41 AM |
#120 |
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All those billions we are pouring into the War Machine are not representative of Pro-Life values |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:15 AM |
#177 |
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oh, so true |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 10:22 AM |
#191 |
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The problem is that we need to throw out corporate power! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:20 AM |
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She HAS done one thing that disqualifies her as a Democrat in my opinion. |
reprobate |
Sep-16-07 02:04 PM |
#234 |
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If she is nominated I will quit the party |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 09:49 AM |
#132 |
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Go for it. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:56 AM |
#143 |
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Show me where I said I wouldn't vote for her |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
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I didn't say you did; I said "if" |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:10 AM |
#170 |
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good |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:58 AM |
#147 |
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Show me where I said I would quit DU |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:08 AM |
#167 |
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well |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:20 AM |
#187 |
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Why would I have to stay silent? |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:36 AM |
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Well, I THOUGHT this was a Democratic Party member site! |
CTyankee |
Sep-16-07 07:21 PM |
#260 |
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Membership in the Democratic party is not required to participate here |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:47 PM |
#267 |
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Did I say anything about NOT questioning leaders? As a matter of fact, I strongly |
CTyankee |
Sep-17-07 08:20 AM |
#269 |
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This site does not prohibit questioning Democratic leaders |
proud2Blib |
Sep-17-07 10:20 AM |
#270 |
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Of course you can go on DU and question Democrats. I wouldn't be here if |
CTyankee |
Sep-17-07 10:43 AM |
#271 |
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I have no plans to advocate for other candidates here |
proud2Blib |
Sep-17-07 11:43 AM |
#272 |
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not to mention |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
#161 |
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YEP you get it |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 10:09 AM |
#168 |
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The 'poison' is in the advancement of republicans |
bigtree |
Sep-16-07 08:03 AM |
#6 |
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The REAL poison is the adancement of corporocrats! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:28 AM |
#196 |
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Don't trust Hillary but she can take the first round of hits and then we'll |
jazzjunkysue |
Sep-16-07 08:00 AM |
#2 |
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Forgive me if I do NOT want an American Margaret Thatcher. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:02 AM |
#5 |
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Well said! |
ThomWV |
Sep-16-07 08:20 AM |
#21 |
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She won't win. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 09:21 AM |
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yes yes and yes |
rodeodance |
Sep-16-07 08:03 AM |
#8 |
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OK, you can't stand Hillary |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:06 AM |
#9 |
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It's much more than that and you know it... |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:08 AM |
#15 |
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You're the one using that language. I don't. n/t |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:16 AM |
#20 |
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But your actions ... the threads you start to trash ANSWER, et. al. liberal based, speaks volumes. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:21 AM |
#22 |
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ANSWER is NOT a liberal group. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:25 AM |
#25 |
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Oh please stop with the false outrage. It's opinion, but IMO, you trash all liberal based groups. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:29 AM |
#31 |
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It's dogshit. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:36 AM |
#39 |
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Typical response: Attack! That will play nicely with the liberal base. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:55 AM |
#58 |
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One more time. I am a liberal. I have thousands of posts |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:01 AM |
#65 |
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My Gawd! I'm sorry, but the way you "pick apart" liberal groups here, IMO, you are no liberal. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:25 AM |
#91 |
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oh bullshit |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:33 AM |
#104 |
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Well, I don't know about how many TEAMS you've played on, but if you want to win A GOAL |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:39 AM |
#116 |
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Then why do you shit all over clinton every chance you get? |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:46 AM |
#127 |
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Nice choice of words. And here I thought we were beginning to get along. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:54 AM |
#138 |
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You're tired of MY rudeness? |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:57 AM |
#145 |
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Hello? There's a difference between PUBLIC candidates and DU members. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:00 AM |
#149 |
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Why are YOU allowed to |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:04 AM |
#155 |
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Again, you are grossing me (and others out) ... mission accomplished. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:06 AM |
#160 |
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Can't answer the question? |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
#165 |
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The candidates are fair game - YOU wish to take it personally. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:09 AM |
#169 |
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Now try to read slowly.... |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:22 AM |
#190 |
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I guess given your rules, you better be careful not to attack Lieberman! He's now a DEMOCRAT! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:37 AM |
#200 |
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It's not MY rule |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 11:00 AM |
#210 |
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I think he was concerned about attacking other Dem board members... |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 11:17 AM |
#220 |
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Now O n c e MORE, I attacked "the behavior" not the person who is cali. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:39 AM |
#202 |
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Why is Cali's BEHAVIOR subject to condemnation |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:59 AM |
#209 |
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No, I'm only reporting what is there for observation ... on facts - I made no personal insults. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 11:06 AM |
#213 |
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You will never get a straight answer |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:09 AM |
#214 |
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My guess is that it is more of an issue of priorities in supporting progressive causes |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 01:55 PM |
#232 |
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Very thoughtful and more diplomatic than my capabilities. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 02:35 PM |
#239 |
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ANSWER does hurt the anti-war movement |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:52 AM |
#135 |
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That's simply a big L |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:54 AM |
#137 |
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Methinks you protesth way way WAY (all those biting comments) too much. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:55 AM |
#141 |
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You have a nice day too. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:02 AM |
#152 |
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I never fail to be amazed at how you are able to rise above it all. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:11 AM |
#171 |
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Nah, I fall into the muck and wrestle |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:10 AM |
#215 |
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Yes, I am fully aware of your elaborated positions. But - I just don't concur. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 02:41 PM |
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Name removed |
Sep-16-07 10:16 AM |
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I'll say. I don't support people |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:16 AM |
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Name removed |
Sep-16-07 06:52 PM |
#257 |
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she is a consumate politician |
wildhorses |
Sep-16-07 08:01 AM |
#3 |
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my dog could beat fred thompson and so could hillary |
spanone |
Sep-16-07 08:03 AM |
#7 |
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LOL! |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:06 AM |
#12 |
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I think she has a shot equal to that of Kerry |
zeemike |
Sep-16-07 08:06 AM |
#10 |
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Believe me, the Clinton campaign has been dealing |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:08 AM |
#13 |
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Competence doesn't matter when images are created on a tube |
zeemike |
Sep-16-07 08:26 AM |
#26 |
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Reagan Ran In An Entirely Different Political Environment |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:36 AM |
#40 |
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True Reagan had more experience |
zeemike |
Sep-16-07 08:53 AM |
#56 |
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No they can't. He's a deeply flawed candidate |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:57 AM |
#61 |
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And He's Not Particulary Attractive |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 10:47 AM |
#205 |
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"if they (MSM) want to make Thompson the next Reagan they can do it." |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:58 AM |
#62 |
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Exactly! |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:29 AM |
#100 |
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That Would Be Like Making Danny DeVito Into Brad Pitt |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 04:14 PM |
#244 |
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Exactly..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:01 AM |
#151 |
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Eleanor Roosevelt was vilified and called a lesbian by the media |
katmondoo |
Sep-16-07 08:10 AM |
#16 |
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True. But she was not electable on her own. |
PaulHo |
Sep-16-07 09:18 AM |
#82 |
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And why won't we look to her for moral |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:05 AM |
#156 |
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but on the most important vote |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 10:19 AM |
#183 |
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and you know that how? |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:24 AM |
#192 |
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Sure she loves him |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:04 PM |
#245 |
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That's your opinion but that |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 06:08 PM |
#246 |
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But she asaid Yes to NAFTA, No to single payer health,... |
PaulHo |
Sep-16-07 12:03 PM |
#226 |
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Excellent points, PaulHo! |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:12 PM |
#249 |
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When Hillary Gets Done Working Frederick90027 He'll Wish He Stayed At Law And Order |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:27 AM |
#29 |
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Ain't that the truth. n/t |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:29 AM |
#32 |
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But you don't get it |
zeemike |
Sep-16-07 08:42 AM |
#47 |
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If Folks Think HRC Is Gay There's No Getting Through To Them |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:49 AM |
#52 |
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Fooled again, indeed |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:10 AM |
#70 |
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"So add on some swft-boating and some black box voting and we are indeed FOOLS AGAIN" |
Scout |
Sep-16-07 01:20 PM |
#231 |
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sheesh |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:09 PM |
#247 |
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Any Dem is better than any Reptile |
baldguy |
Sep-16-07 08:08 AM |
#14 |
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Not if they will continue enabling The Military Industrial Complex to kill our youth and steal ... |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:11 AM |
#17 |
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Cliches are no substitute for reasoned arguments n/t |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:15 AM |
#19 |
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Cliches that happen to reflect "the truth" are very useful - I repeat often. nt |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:22 AM |
#23 |
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I can't help but laugh at anyone who thinks they have the market |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:28 AM |
#30 |
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Yes, you love to throw the term "content free" and "laugh at" those who strongly oppose you ... |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:37 AM |
#41 |
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There are good |
H2O Man |
Sep-16-07 08:29 AM |
#33 |
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Absolutely. And that's why I can't support her in the primaries |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:42 AM |
#48 |
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I guess you haven't noticed, LBJ isn't running. |
baldguy |
Sep-16-07 08:38 AM |
#45 |
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But LBJ, a DEMOCRATIC president got us into Vietnam and escalated our involvement. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 08:50 AM |
#53 |
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The question isn't whether you're going to be loyal to the party or not. |
baldguy |
Sep-16-07 09:29 AM |
#98 |
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Newsflash, HRC has been invited to several think tanks: Only Impeachment will wrest the UNITARY |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:34 AM |
#106 |
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A "sane Republican"? Where is this mythical beast? |
baldguy |
Sep-16-07 10:21 AM |
#188 |
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The Pugs Got a Twofer |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:45 AM |
#51 |
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Touche and exactly, ShortnFiery |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:25 AM |
#90 |
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Say what? |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:35 AM |
#110 |
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Clinton isn't remotely comparable Zell Miller |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:58 AM |
#146 |
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Did Zell Miller And Ben Nighthorse Campbell Get 95% ADA Ratings? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:43 AM |
#123 |
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like really slow fish |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:48 AM |
#129 |
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that's for sure |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:03 AM |
#154 |
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Lieberman's back to being a DINO again... |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:47 AM |
#204 |
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I agree... |
PCIntern |
Sep-16-07 08:24 AM |
#24 |
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People will of had enough by 08 it's the perfect time for her to win. |
cooolandrew |
Sep-16-07 08:27 AM |
#28 |
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What makes you think Thompson is going to win the republican nomination? |
porphyrian |
Sep-16-07 08:31 AM |
#35 |
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I don't know if he will. I used Fred and Rudi as the |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:37 AM |
#42 |
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It's all guesswork until the primaries, unless someone knows something I don't. |
porphyrian |
Sep-16-07 08:42 AM |
#46 |
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My OP was not about cheering Hillary on, it was simply |
cali |
Sep-16-07 08:44 AM |
#50 |
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And my original post simply disagreed with your conclusion. |
porphyrian |
Sep-16-07 08:53 AM |
#54 |
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I think she's the only Dem candidate the Repukes can destroy |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 08:32 AM |
#37 |
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McCain fans said that about Jr. in 2000... |
PCIntern |
Sep-16-07 08:34 AM |
#38 |
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In My Best Arnold Voice From Twins |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:43 AM |
#49 |
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But Jr had the NAME |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 09:39 AM |
#115 |
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She and her husband have this annoying habit |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 08:53 AM |
#55 |
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Affirmative |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:55 AM |
#57 |
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He did because he's a powerhouse of charm and right wing anyway...... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 09:17 AM |
#78 |
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Bill Clinton is not right-wing |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:18 AM |
#80 |
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Huh? NAFTA is not right wing? We can go down a list of right wing |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 09:23 AM |
#88 |
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Bill clinton is not right-wing |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:33 AM |
#105 |
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NAFTA was signed by Bush41 - not Clinton - and while the side agreements did not work it |
papau |
Sep-16-07 12:21 PM |
#229 |
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This is what Wikipedia says about Clinton and trade agreements and NAFTA |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 07:36 PM |
#261 |
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Thanks for the heads up - I'll go over and correct the entry - it appears that the "Clinton |
papau |
Sep-16-07 09:04 PM |
#265 |
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Bill wouldn't have been elected without Ross Perot in 1992. |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
#162 |
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Where's The Evidence That Every Perot Voter Would Have Voted For Bush? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 10:13 AM |
#175 |
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nonsense |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:27 AM |
#195 |
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Some Posters Must Think Other Posters Just Fell Off The Turnip Truck |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 10:34 AM |
#198 |
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I used an almanac to get my facts for all those votes for Perot. |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-16-07 07:36 PM |
#262 |
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Horse hockey |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-16-07 07:39 PM |
#263 |
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She isn't such a sure thing as you claim |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 08:56 AM |
#59 |
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Then Why Is She Waxing G(h)ouliani And Fredrick90027 In The Polls? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 08:59 AM |
#63 |
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Why are believing anything that a poll tells you over a year out from the election? |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:09 AM |
#69 |
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Why are polls that show something now |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:16 AM |
#77 |
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Because you know as well as I do that polls right now don't reflect sentiment come next fall |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:27 AM |
#95 |
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polls right now |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:35 AM |
#109 |
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Speaking of vehemence, geez, pot, meet kettle |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:42 AM |
#122 |
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Where's the objectivity? |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:02 AM |
#153 |
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Sounds like Adrian In The Rocky Movies |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
#164 |
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I have never seen such a weak slate of candidates as |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:04 AM |
#66 |
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Don't underestimate Thompson |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:13 AM |
#73 |
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I don't think people will vote for an old guy with cancer |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:15 AM |
#75 |
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That could very well be his undoing |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:23 AM |
#89 |
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Figure Out The Logistics And The Legality |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:36 AM |
#113 |
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Being that I don't know where you live |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:45 AM |
#126 |
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I Haven't Picked A Loser Since I Started Picking In 76... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:54 AM |
#139 |
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What Reagan Dynamic? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:23 AM |
#87 |
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You apparently don't deal with many people out in flyover country |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:31 AM |
#103 |
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Besides The Obvious Physical Differences |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:52 AM |
#136 |
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and it was weak in 2000 |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 10:27 AM |
#194 |
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so we should nominate somebody |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:08 AM |
#68 |
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Like Him |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:12 AM |
#71 |
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Do you read posts for comprehension, or just to get in the first snark? |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:16 AM |
#76 |
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well I don't give |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 09:19 AM |
#83 |
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Yeah, but what plays in New York doesn't always play well out here in flyover country |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:34 AM |
#108 |
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Do you know much about upstate New York? |
MonkeyFunk |
Sep-16-07 10:00 AM |
#150 |
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she also didn't have much |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:26 PM |
#252 |
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So true, Madhound |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:20 PM |
#250 |
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Why not read the OP BEFORE commenting. I never said she was a sure thing |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:12 AM |
#72 |
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No, but you have certainly implied that, both in your OP and elsewhere on this board |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:21 AM |
#86 |
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With so many right wingers and all the corporations backing her financially |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 09:19 AM |
#84 |
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And many of us DON'T see her as the best candidate |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:21 AM |
#85 |
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She isn't, but even if she were...... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 09:26 AM |
#93 |
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Just let me ask one question: |
cali |
Sep-16-07 09:28 AM |
#96 |
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OF COURSE! I've never voted for anything but Dems. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 07:11 PM |
#258 |
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I think the country is ripe |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:20 AM |
#186 |
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the right woman |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:21 PM |
#251 |
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In your opinion..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 06:36 PM |
#255 |
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The country might NEED a woman president, but this country is SEXIST. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-16-07 07:17 PM |
#259 |
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I don't need to do a search on sexism..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:12 PM |
#266 |
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Not in the primaries she won't. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-17-07 06:35 PM |
#275 |
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"a woman presidential candidate |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:34 PM |
#253 |
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Anecdotally , I Don't Know One Democrat In Real Life Who Won't Vote For Hillary |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:27 AM |
#94 |
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I respectfully suggest - you may need to get out more? |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:30 AM |
#101 |
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I Get Out Plenty... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:40 AM |
#117 |
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OK |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:44 AM |
#124 |
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ditto, SnF |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:36 PM |
#254 |
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Anecdotally I know many Dems who won't vote for her in the general |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:38 AM |
#114 |
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They said the same thing about Kerry. How'd that work out? |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-16-07 09:34 AM |
#107 |
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Impeachment of Cheney may be the only chance we have to stop "The Unitary Executive" |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:36 AM |
#112 |
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Are you suggesting that the Democrats are agreeing to let Bush make the Presidency this strong? |
Major Hogwash |
Sep-16-07 09:41 AM |
#119 |
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No, I'm suggesting that some in the military industrial complex - think tanks |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:47 AM |
#128 |
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If war profiteering is important |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:17 AM |
#181 |
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ENDING this war is *all* important ... HRC will not help us with that. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:21 AM |
#189 |
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Sad to say, I thought the same thing |
deutsey |
Sep-16-07 09:42 AM |
#121 |
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Excellent points, deutsey |
Carolina |
Sep-16-07 06:10 PM |
#248 |
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Unfortunately, you're probably right. She's a "smart" (aka unethical) politician. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-16-07 09:35 AM |
#111 |
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Posts like this ignore Hillary's secret weapon. |
tinrobot |
Sep-16-07 09:44 AM |
#125 |
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Yes, he'll be a big factor, including all that bagge that he brings along with him |
MadHound |
Sep-16-07 09:49 AM |
#133 |
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Yeah-Bill's A Liability |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 10:05 AM |
#157 |
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The Big Dawg is no longer "the star" that he was - not here, not now. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 09:51 AM |
#134 |
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I Am Amazed At Your Ability To Present Your Opinion As Fact |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 09:56 AM |
#144 |
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Fascinating, isn't it? |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:06 AM |
#159 |
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Oh my, ganging up? What would mother say? |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:13 AM |
#174 |
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My mother's a tough old bird |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:14 AM |
#176 |
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My mother's also tough, but she always told me to attack the argument, not the person. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:20 AM |
#184 |
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Too bad you didn't take her words to heart. |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:32 AM |
#197 |
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Seriously, you are so taken by HRC, any criticism of her you seemingly take personally. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 10:36 AM |
#199 |
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Why are you so enamoured of putting words in my mouth? I do not support HRC |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:49 AM |
#206 |
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What I find most disturbing is the demonstrated "big D" democratic behavior you are espousing. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 11:13 AM |
#218 |
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You have insulted me repeatedly and tried to silence me on more |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:22 AM |
#222 |
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Oh please, that's patently false - you know that I'm asking you to with-hold harsh judgments about |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 11:36 AM |
#225 |
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You're right, the economy was strong under Clinton. |
tinrobot |
Sep-16-07 12:10 PM |
#227 |
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That's a valid point. n/t |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:07 AM |
#163 |
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Winning in 08 isn't something we can settle for "an excellent shot at." |
LibDemAlways |
Sep-16-07 09:55 AM |
#140 |
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I agree that she's not the best candidate |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:05 AM |
#158 |
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Your post is very straightforward, and I don't disagree |
LibDemAlways |
Sep-16-07 10:16 AM |
#178 |
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I'm not a fan of Hillary but lets remember the Supreme Court shall we? Anyone she appoints would be |
newportdadde |
Sep-16-07 09:56 AM |
#142 |
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I want someone who will end "corporate personhood" on the court! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:55 AM |
#207 |
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I'm not a gambler or otherwise |
BlackVelvet04 |
Sep-16-07 10:00 AM |
#148 |
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win, schmin.........what will be the margin? will the country still be divided? will she represent... |
Ninga |
Sep-16-07 10:16 AM |
#180 |
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I have three little words for you: |
cali |
Sep-16-07 10:18 AM |
#182 |
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My car will be pasted with Hillary bumper stickers and I will support her if she is the nominee. |
Ninga |
Sep-16-07 10:27 AM |
#193 |
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And two words back for that issue "Corporate Personhood"! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 10:56 AM |
#208 |
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Sorry, opposed as I am to Corporate Personhood |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:00 AM |
#211 |
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Right now we should be FOCUSED on who wins the primary! |
calipendence |
Sep-16-07 11:12 AM |
#217 |
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I disagree and wish she would go away |
GoPsUx |
Sep-16-07 10:39 AM |
#201 |
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Keep telling yourself that... |
Beelzebud |
Sep-16-07 10:40 AM |
#203 |
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She's the only one that *could* lose. |
Marr |
Sep-16-07 11:03 AM |
#212 |
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You're right |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Sep-16-07 11:34 AM |
#224 |
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Then Why Is She Waxing G(h)ouliani And Fredrick90027 In The Polls? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-16-07 01:57 PM |
#233 |
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I agree. nt |
krabigirl |
Sep-16-07 11:11 AM |
#216 |
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Can we blame Nader when she loses? |
Beelzebud |
Sep-16-07 11:18 AM |
#221 |
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Nope. n/t |
cali |
Sep-16-07 11:23 AM |
#223 |
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My problem isn't that I |
zidzi |
Sep-16-07 12:13 PM |
#228 |
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Even if by some chance the Republican nominee implodes |
depakid |
Sep-16-07 02:12 PM |
#235 |
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Again, and it was right in the OP |
cali |
Sep-16-07 02:40 PM |
#240 |
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The issue for me REALLY is not |
never_get_over_it |
Sep-16-07 02:21 PM |
#236 |
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Hillary is not my first choice or even my second or third. |
MiltonF |
Sep-16-07 02:28 PM |
#237 |
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It's not that. DUers would RATHER a republican win than Clinton. They hate her that much. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-16-07 02:29 PM |
#238 |
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Black and white thinkers |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-16-07 03:37 PM |
#242 |
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That's why it's funny watching the cognitive dissonance with Clark. LOL! |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-16-07 03:39 PM |
#243 |
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Not necessarily the thinking that's black and white, it's the principles that are |
The Vinyl Ripper |
Sep-16-07 07:43 PM |
#264 |
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I believe Obama can easily defeat any of what the GOP have to offer with no difficulties whatsoever. |
Imagevision |
Sep-16-07 06:40 PM |
#256 |
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Sadly, you're right. She could win - and little would change. |
Zhade |
Sep-16-07 11:20 PM |
#268 |
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Oh - I fully expect Thompson to thump her like a drum. |
Clark2008 |
Sep-17-07 11:50 AM |
#273 |
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She's still our weakest candidate because she energizes their base. |
redqueen |
Sep-17-07 11:52 AM |
#274 |
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I don't neceassrily think she can't. But I see the republicans |
mmonk |
Sep-17-07 07:23 PM |
#276 |