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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:37 AM
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41. Yes, you love to throw the term "content free" and "laugh at" those who strongly oppose you ...
Me? I have humility, in that, when I make a factual err - don't state something as my OPINION - I will own up to it. However, I honestly believe after living around the D.C. beltway and keeping up with current affairs that democratic "moderates" are sadly out of touch with the base of the party.

You're welcome to laugh at me, but I just may happen to be right. Unfortunately, like many "moderates" it's more enjoyable to attack Liberals and liberal sponsored organizations INSTEAD of taking on this Criminal Executive Branch.

Now if our illustrious Democratic Leaders in the Congress "even hint at" beginning Impeachment Proceedings on Cheney, THIS LIBERAL will salute and get back in line. Barring that, I must place ending this war before your demands for "party loyalty."

Have a good day - I would not ever "laugh at" you. :hi:
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  -If you think Hillary Clinton can't win a general election, cali  Sep-16-07 07:48 AM   #0 
  - HRC is poison to the Democratic Party, IMO, as Nominee in the general election.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 07:54 AM   #1 
  - Another CFAP  cali   Sep-16-07 08:02 AM   #4 
  - You're excellent at bashing anyone who disagrees with you, but the truth is The BASE won't vote for  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:06 AM   #11 
     - LOL. For a fine example of bashing, read your own 1st post in  cali   Sep-16-07 08:14 AM   #18 
     - Who Appointed You God And Voice Of The Base  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:22 AM   # 
     - No one, but I qualified it as my personal opinion. Often times I just happen to be correct.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:30 AM   #34 
     - You know The Old Saw About Opinions  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:37 AM   #43 
        - Very insightful.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:56 AM   #60 
     - self-delete  cali   Sep-16-07 08:31 AM   #36 
     - I'll vote for Hillary  emilyg   Sep-16-07 01:01 PM   #230 
     - Nonsense  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 08:27 AM   #27 
     - As opposed to blind support for her and the party  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:11 AM   #172 
     - So who will you vote for, IF she does get the nomination?  hlthe2b   Sep-16-07 08:37 AM   #44 
     - I agree totally, ShortnFiery  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:00 AM   #64 
     - how about  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:07 AM   #67 
        - means squat  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:14 AM   #74 
           - If you don't want to learn  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:17 AM   #79 
           - Once again  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:25 AM   #92 
              - LOL  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:31 AM   #102 
                 - BECAUSE OF THE WAR  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:48 AM   #130 
                    - Well you'll be happy to know  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:49 AM   #131 
                       - Too little, too late  Carolina   Sep-16-07 10:12 AM   #173 
           - Well, a pro-choice president is important to many of us  cali   Sep-16-07 09:18 AM   #81 
           - Seems to me that some repuke appointments  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:28 AM   #97 
           - That will never happen again. NEVER.  cali   Sep-16-07 09:40 AM   #118 
           - Then I guess "pro-choice" will extend to "choice for endless occupations" ? nt  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:29 AM   #99 
           - What? Really, try thinking.  cali   Sep-16-07 09:41 AM   #120 
              - All those billions we are pouring into the War Machine are not representative of Pro-Life values  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:15 AM   #177 
                 - oh, so true  Carolina   Sep-16-07 10:22 AM   #191 
           - The problem is that we need to throw out corporate power!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:20 AM   #185 
           - She HAS done one thing that disqualifies her as a Democrat in my opinion.  reprobate   Sep-16-07 02:04 PM   #234 
     - If she is nominated I will quit the party  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 09:49 AM   #132 
        - Go for it.  cali   Sep-16-07 09:56 AM   #143 
        - Show me where I said I wouldn't vote for her  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #166 
           - I didn't say you did; I said "if"  cali   Sep-16-07 10:10 AM   #170 
        - good  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:58 AM   #147 
        - Show me where I said I would quit DU  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:08 AM   #167 
           - well  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:20 AM   #187 
              - Why would I have to stay silent?  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:36 AM   # 
                 - Well, I THOUGHT this was a Democratic Party member site!  CTyankee   Sep-16-07 07:21 PM   #260 
                    - Membership in the Democratic party is not required to participate here  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:47 PM   #267 
                       - Did I say anything about NOT questioning leaders? As a matter of fact, I strongly  CTyankee   Sep-17-07 08:20 AM   #269 
                          - This site does not prohibit questioning Democratic leaders  proud2Blib   Sep-17-07 10:20 AM   #270 
                             - Of course you can go on DU and question Democrats. I wouldn't be here if  CTyankee   Sep-17-07 10:43 AM   #271 
                                - I have no plans to advocate for other candidates here  proud2Blib   Sep-17-07 11:43 AM   #272 
        - not to mention  Carolina   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #161 
           - YEP you get it  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 10:09 AM   #168 
  - The 'poison' is in the advancement of republicans  bigtree   Sep-16-07 08:03 AM   #6 
     - The REAL poison is the adancement of corporocrats!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:28 AM   #196 
  - Don't trust Hillary but she can take the first round of hits and then we'll  jazzjunkysue   Sep-16-07 08:00 AM   #2 
  - Forgive me if I do NOT want an American Margaret Thatcher.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:02 AM   #5 
  - Well said!  ThomWV   Sep-16-07 08:20 AM   #21 
  - She won't win.  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 09:21 AM   # 
  - yes yes and yes  rodeodance   Sep-16-07 08:03 AM   #8 
     - OK, you can't stand Hillary  cali   Sep-16-07 08:06 AM   #9 
        - It's much more than that and you know it...  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:08 AM   #15 
           - You're the one using that language. I don't. n/t  cali   Sep-16-07 08:16 AM   #20 
              - But your actions ... the threads you start to trash ANSWER, et. al. liberal based, speaks volumes.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:21 AM   #22 
                 - ANSWER is NOT a liberal group.  cali   Sep-16-07 08:25 AM   #25 
                    - Oh please stop with the false outrage. It's opinion, but IMO, you trash all liberal based groups.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:29 AM   #31 
                       - It's dogshit.  cali   Sep-16-07 08:36 AM   #39 
                          - Typical response: Attack! That will play nicely with the liberal base.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:55 AM   #58 
                             - One more time. I am a liberal. I have thousands of posts  cali   Sep-16-07 09:01 AM   #65 
                                - My Gawd! I'm sorry, but the way you "pick apart" liberal groups here, IMO, you are no liberal.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:25 AM   #91 
                                - oh bullshit  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:33 AM   #104 
                                - Well, I don't know about how many TEAMS you've played on, but if you want to win A GOAL  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:39 AM   #116 
                                   - Then why do you shit all over clinton every chance you get?  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:46 AM   #127 
                                   - Nice choice of words. And here I thought we were beginning to get along.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:54 AM   #138 
                                      - You're tired of MY rudeness?  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:57 AM   #145 
                                         - Hello? There's a difference between PUBLIC candidates and DU members.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:00 AM   #149 
                                            - Why are YOU allowed to  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:04 AM   #155 
                                            - Again, you are grossing me (and others out) ... mission accomplished.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:06 AM   #160 
                                            - Can't answer the question?  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #165 
                                            - The candidates are fair game - YOU wish to take it personally.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:09 AM   #169 
                                            - Now try to read slowly....  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:22 AM   #190 
                                            - I guess given your rules, you better be careful not to attack Lieberman! He's now a DEMOCRAT!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:37 AM   #200 
                                            - It's not MY rule  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 11:00 AM   #210 
                                            - I think he was concerned about attacking other Dem board members...  calipendence   Sep-16-07 11:17 AM   #220 
                                            - Now O n c e MORE, I attacked "the behavior" not the person who is cali.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:39 AM   #202 
                                            - Why is Cali's BEHAVIOR subject to condemnation  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:59 AM   #209 
                                            - No, I'm only reporting what is there for observation ... on facts - I made no personal insults.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 11:06 AM   #213 
                                            - You will never get a straight answer  cali   Sep-16-07 11:09 AM   #214 
                                            - My guess is that it is more of an issue of priorities in supporting progressive causes  calipendence   Sep-16-07 01:55 PM   #232 
                                            - Very thoughtful and more diplomatic than my capabilities.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 02:35 PM   #239 
                                   - ANSWER does hurt the anti-war movement  cali   Sep-16-07 09:52 AM   #135 
                                - That's simply a big L  cali   Sep-16-07 09:54 AM   #137 
                                   - Methinks you protesth way way WAY (all those biting comments) too much.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:55 AM   #141 
                                      - You have a nice day too.  cali   Sep-16-07 10:02 AM   #152 
                                         - I never fail to be amazed at how you are able to rise above it all.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:11 AM   #171 
                                            - Nah, I fall into the muck and wrestle  cali   Sep-16-07 11:10 AM   #215 
                                               - Yes, I am fully aware of your elaborated positions. But - I just don't concur.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 02:41 PM   #241 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-16-07 10:16 AM   #179 
                                - I'll say. I don't support people  cali   Sep-16-07 11:16 AM   #219 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-16-07 06:52 PM   #257 
  - she is a consumate politician  wildhorses   Sep-16-07 08:01 AM   #3 
  - my dog could beat fred thompson and so could hillary  spanone   Sep-16-07 08:03 AM   #7 
  - LOL!  cali   Sep-16-07 08:06 AM   #12 
  - I think she has a shot equal to that of Kerry  zeemike   Sep-16-07 08:06 AM   #10 
  - Believe me, the Clinton campaign has been dealing  cali   Sep-16-07 08:08 AM   #13 
  - Competence doesn't matter when images are created on a tube  zeemike   Sep-16-07 08:26 AM   #26 
  - Reagan Ran In An Entirely Different Political Environment  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:36 AM   #40 
     - True Reagan had more experience  zeemike   Sep-16-07 08:53 AM   #56 
        - No they can't. He's a deeply flawed candidate  cali   Sep-16-07 08:57 AM   #61 
        - And He's Not Particulary Attractive  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 10:47 AM   #205 
        - "if they (MSM) want to make Thompson the next Reagan they can do it."  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:58 AM   #62 
           - Exactly!  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:29 AM   #100 
           - That Would Be Like Making Danny DeVito Into Brad Pitt  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 04:14 PM   #244 
  - Exactly.....  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:01 AM   #151 
  - Eleanor Roosevelt was vilified and called a lesbian by the media  katmondoo   Sep-16-07 08:10 AM   #16 
  - True. But she was not electable on her own.  PaulHo   Sep-16-07 09:18 AM   #82 
     - And why won't we look to her for moral  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:05 AM   #156 
        - but on the most important vote  Carolina   Sep-16-07 10:19 AM   #183 
           - and you know that how?  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:24 AM   #192 
           - Sure she loves him  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:04 PM   #245 
              - That's your opinion but that  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 06:08 PM   #246 
           - But she asaid Yes to NAFTA, No to single payer health,...  PaulHo   Sep-16-07 12:03 PM   #226 
              - Excellent points, PaulHo!  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:12 PM   #249 
  - When Hillary Gets Done Working Frederick90027 He'll Wish He Stayed At Law And Order  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:27 AM   #29 
  - Ain't that the truth. n/t  cali   Sep-16-07 08:29 AM   #32 
  - But you don't get it  zeemike   Sep-16-07 08:42 AM   #47 
     - If Folks Think HRC Is Gay There's No Getting Through To Them  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:49 AM   #52 
  - Fooled again, indeed  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:10 AM   #70 
     - "So add on some swft-boating and some black box voting and we are indeed FOOLS AGAIN"  Scout   Sep-16-07 01:20 PM   #231 
        - sheesh  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:09 PM   #247 
  - Any Dem is better than any Reptile  baldguy   Sep-16-07 08:08 AM   #14 
  - Not if they will continue enabling The Military Industrial Complex to kill our youth and steal ...  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:11 AM   #17 
     - Cliches are no substitute for reasoned arguments n/t  cali   Sep-16-07 08:15 AM   #19 
     - Cliches that happen to reflect "the truth" are very useful - I repeat often. nt  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:22 AM   #23 
     - I can't help but laugh at anyone who thinks they have the market  cali   Sep-16-07 08:28 AM   #30 
        - Yes, you love to throw the term "content free" and "laugh at" those who strongly oppose you ...  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:37 AM   #41 
     - There are good  H2O Man   Sep-16-07 08:29 AM   #33 
        - Absolutely. And that's why I can't support her in the primaries  cali   Sep-16-07 08:42 AM   #48 
     - I guess you haven't noticed, LBJ isn't running.  baldguy   Sep-16-07 08:38 AM   #45 
     - But LBJ, a DEMOCRATIC president got us into Vietnam and escalated our involvement.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 08:50 AM   #53 
        - The question isn't whether you're going to be loyal to the party or not.  baldguy   Sep-16-07 09:29 AM   #98 
           - Newsflash, HRC has been invited to several think tanks: Only Impeachment will wrest the UNITARY  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:34 AM   #106 
              - A "sane Republican"? Where is this mythical beast?  baldguy   Sep-16-07 10:21 AM   #188 
     - The Pugs Got a Twofer  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:45 AM   #51 
     - Touche and exactly, ShortnFiery  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:25 AM   #90 
        - Say what?  cali   Sep-16-07 09:35 AM   #110 
        - Clinton isn't remotely comparable Zell Miller  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:58 AM   #146 
        - Did Zell Miller And Ben Nighthorse Campbell Get 95% ADA Ratings?  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:43 AM   #123 
        - like really slow fish  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:48 AM   #129 
           - that's for sure  cali   Sep-16-07 10:03 AM   #154 
        - Lieberman's back to being a DINO again...  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:47 AM   #204 
  - I agree...  PCIntern   Sep-16-07 08:24 AM   #24 
  - People will of had enough by 08 it's the perfect time for her to win.  cooolandrew   Sep-16-07 08:27 AM   #28 
  - What makes you think Thompson is going to win the republican nomination?  porphyrian   Sep-16-07 08:31 AM   #35 
  - I don't know if he will. I used Fred and Rudi as the  cali   Sep-16-07 08:37 AM   #42 
     - It's all guesswork until the primaries, unless someone knows something I don't.  porphyrian   Sep-16-07 08:42 AM   #46 
        - My OP was not about cheering Hillary on, it was simply  cali   Sep-16-07 08:44 AM   #50 
           - And my original post simply disagreed with your conclusion.  porphyrian   Sep-16-07 08:53 AM   #54 
  - I think she's the only Dem candidate the Repukes can destroy  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 08:32 AM   #37 
  - McCain fans said that about Jr. in 2000...  PCIntern   Sep-16-07 08:34 AM   #38 
  - In My Best Arnold Voice From Twins  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:43 AM   #49 
  - But Jr had the NAME  Carolina   Sep-16-07 09:39 AM   #115 
  - She and her husband have this annoying habit  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 08:53 AM   #55 
     - Affirmative  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:55 AM   #57 
     - He did because he's a powerhouse of charm and right wing anyway......  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 09:17 AM   #78 
     - Bill Clinton is not right-wing  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:18 AM   #80 
        - Huh? NAFTA is not right wing? We can go down a list of right wing  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 09:23 AM   #88 
           - Bill clinton is not right-wing  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:33 AM   #105 
           - NAFTA was signed by Bush41 - not Clinton - and while the side agreements did not work it  papau   Sep-16-07 12:21 PM   #229 
              - This is what Wikipedia says about Clinton and trade agreements and NAFTA  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 07:36 PM   #261 
                 - Thanks for the heads up - I'll go over and correct the entry - it appears that the "Clinton  papau   Sep-16-07 09:04 PM   #265 
     - Bill wouldn't have been elected without Ross Perot in 1992.  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #162 
        - Where's The Evidence That Every Perot Voter Would Have Voted For Bush?  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 10:13 AM   #175 
        - nonsense  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:27 AM   #195 
           - Some Posters Must Think Other Posters Just Fell Off The Turnip Truck  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 10:34 AM   #198 
           - I used an almanac to get my facts for all those votes for Perot.  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-07 07:36 PM   #262 
           - Horse hockey  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-07 07:39 PM   #263 
  - She isn't such a sure thing as you claim  MadHound   Sep-16-07 08:56 AM   #59 
  - Then Why Is She Waxing G(h)ouliani And Fredrick90027 In The Polls?  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 08:59 AM   #63 
  - Why are believing anything that a poll tells you over a year out from the election?  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:09 AM   #69 
     - Why are polls that show something now  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:16 AM   #77 
        - Because you know as well as I do that polls right now don't reflect sentiment come next fall  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:27 AM   #95 
           - polls right now  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:35 AM   #109 
              - Speaking of vehemence, geez, pot, meet kettle  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:42 AM   #122 
                 - Where's the objectivity?  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:02 AM   #153 
                    - Sounds like Adrian In The Rocky Movies  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #164 
  - I have never seen such a weak slate of candidates as  cali   Sep-16-07 09:04 AM   #66 
  - Don't underestimate Thompson  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:13 AM   #73 
  - I don't think people will vote for an old guy with cancer  cali   Sep-16-07 09:15 AM   #75 
  - That could very well be his undoing  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:23 AM   #89 
     - Figure Out The Logistics And The Legality  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:36 AM   #113 
        - Being that I don't know where you live  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:45 AM   #126 
           - I Haven't Picked A Loser Since I Started Picking In 76...  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:54 AM   #139 
  - What Reagan Dynamic?  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:23 AM   #87 
     - You apparently don't deal with many people out in flyover country  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:31 AM   #103 
        - Besides The Obvious Physical Differences  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:52 AM   #136 
  - and it was weak in 2000  Carolina   Sep-16-07 10:27 AM   #194 
  - so we should nominate somebody  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:08 AM   #68 
  - Like Him  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:12 AM   #71 
  - Do you read posts for comprehension, or just to get in the first snark?  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:16 AM   #76 
     - well I don't give  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 09:19 AM   #83 
        - Yeah, but what plays in New York doesn't always play well out here in flyover country  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:34 AM   #108 
           - Do you know much about upstate New York?  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 10:00 AM   #150 
           - she also didn't have much  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:26 PM   #252 
           - So true, Madhound  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:20 PM   #250 
  - Why not read the OP BEFORE commenting. I never said she was a sure thing  cali   Sep-16-07 09:12 AM   #72 
  - No, but you have certainly implied that, both in your OP and elsewhere on this board  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:21 AM   #86 
  - With so many right wingers and all the corporations backing her financially  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 09:19 AM   #84 
     - And many of us DON'T see her as the best candidate  cali   Sep-16-07 09:21 AM   #85 
     - She isn't, but even if she were......  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 09:26 AM   #93 
        - Just let me ask one question:  cali   Sep-16-07 09:28 AM   #96 
        - OF COURSE! I've never voted for anything but Dems. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 07:11 PM   #258 
        - I think the country is ripe  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:20 AM   #186 
        - the right woman  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:21 PM   #251 
        - In your opinion.....  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 06:36 PM   #255 
        - The country might NEED a woman president, but this country is SEXIST.  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-16-07 07:17 PM   #259 
           - I don't need to do a search on sexism.....  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:12 PM   #266 
              - Not in the primaries she won't. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-17-07 06:35 PM   #275 
        - "a woman presidential candidate  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:34 PM   #253 
     - Anecdotally , I Don't Know One Democrat In Real Life Who Won't Vote For Hillary  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:27 AM   #94 
        - I respectfully suggest - you may need to get out more?  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:30 AM   #101 
        - I Get Out Plenty...  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:40 AM   #117 
        - OK  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:44 AM   #124 
        - ditto, SnF  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:36 PM   #254 
        - Anecdotally I know many Dems who won't vote for her in the general  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:38 AM   #114 
  - They said the same thing about Kerry. How'd that work out?  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-07 09:34 AM   #107 
  - Impeachment of Cheney may be the only chance we have to stop "The Unitary Executive"  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:36 AM   #112 
  - Are you suggesting that the Democrats are agreeing to let Bush make the Presidency this strong?  Major Hogwash   Sep-16-07 09:41 AM   #119 
     - No, I'm suggesting that some in the military industrial complex - think tanks  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:47 AM   #128 
        - If war profiteering is important  cali   Sep-16-07 10:17 AM   #181 
           - ENDING this war is *all* important ... HRC will not help us with that.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:21 AM   #189 
  - Sad to say, I thought the same thing  deutsey   Sep-16-07 09:42 AM   #121 
     - Excellent points, deutsey  Carolina   Sep-16-07 06:10 PM   #248 
  - Unfortunately, you're probably right. She's a "smart" (aka unethical) politician.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-16-07 09:35 AM   #111 
  - Posts like this ignore Hillary's secret weapon.  tinrobot   Sep-16-07 09:44 AM   #125 
  - Yes, he'll be a big factor, including all that bagge that he brings along with him  MadHound   Sep-16-07 09:49 AM   #133 
  - Yeah-Bill's A Liability  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 10:05 AM   #157 
  - The Big Dawg is no longer "the star" that he was - not here, not now.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 09:51 AM   #134 
  - I Am Amazed At Your Ability To Present Your Opinion As Fact  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 09:56 AM   #144 
  - Fascinating, isn't it?  cali   Sep-16-07 10:06 AM   #159 
     - Oh my, ganging up? What would mother say?  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:13 AM   #174 
        - My mother's a tough old bird  cali   Sep-16-07 10:14 AM   #176 
           - My mother's also tough, but she always told me to attack the argument, not the person.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:20 AM   #184 
              - Too bad you didn't take her words to heart.  cali   Sep-16-07 10:32 AM   #197 
                 - Seriously, you are so taken by HRC, any criticism of her you seemingly take personally.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 10:36 AM   #199 
                    - Why are you so enamoured of putting words in my mouth? I do not support HRC  cali   Sep-16-07 10:49 AM   #206 
                       - What I find most disturbing is the demonstrated "big D" democratic behavior you are espousing.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 11:13 AM   #218 
                          - You have insulted me repeatedly and tried to silence me on more  cali   Sep-16-07 11:22 AM   #222 
                             - Oh please, that's patently false - you know that I'm asking you to with-hold harsh judgments about  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 11:36 AM   #225 
  - You're right, the economy was strong under Clinton.  tinrobot   Sep-16-07 12:10 PM   #227 
  - That's a valid point. n/t  cali   Sep-16-07 10:07 AM   #163 
  - Winning in 08 isn't something we can settle for "an excellent shot at."  LibDemAlways   Sep-16-07 09:55 AM   #140 
  - I agree that she's not the best candidate  cali   Sep-16-07 10:05 AM   #158 
     - Your post is very straightforward, and I don't disagree  LibDemAlways   Sep-16-07 10:16 AM   #178 
  - I'm not a fan of Hillary but lets remember the Supreme Court shall we? Anyone she appoints would be  newportdadde   Sep-16-07 09:56 AM   #142 
  - I want someone who will end "corporate personhood" on the court!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:55 AM   #207 
  - I'm not a gambler or otherwise  BlackVelvet04   Sep-16-07 10:00 AM   #148 
  - win, schmin.........what will be the margin? will the country still be divided? will she represent...  Ninga   Sep-16-07 10:16 AM   #180 
  - I have three little words for you:  cali   Sep-16-07 10:18 AM   #182 
     - My car will be pasted with Hillary bumper stickers and I will support her if she is the nominee.  Ninga   Sep-16-07 10:27 AM   #193 
     - And two words back for that issue "Corporate Personhood"!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 10:56 AM   #208 
        - Sorry, opposed as I am to Corporate Personhood  cali   Sep-16-07 11:00 AM   #211 
           - Right now we should be FOCUSED on who wins the primary!  calipendence   Sep-16-07 11:12 AM   #217 
  - I disagree and wish she would go away  GoPsUx   Sep-16-07 10:39 AM   #201 
  - Keep telling yourself that...  Beelzebud   Sep-16-07 10:40 AM   #203 
  - She's the only one that *could* lose.  Marr   Sep-16-07 11:03 AM   #212 
  - You're right  notsodumbhillbilly   Sep-16-07 11:34 AM   #224 
     - Then Why Is She Waxing G(h)ouliani And Fredrick90027 In The Polls?  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-16-07 01:57 PM   #233 
  - I agree. nt  krabigirl   Sep-16-07 11:11 AM   #216 
  - Can we blame Nader when she loses?  Beelzebud   Sep-16-07 11:18 AM   #221 
  - Nope. n/t  cali   Sep-16-07 11:23 AM   #223 
  - My problem isn't that I  zidzi   Sep-16-07 12:13 PM   #228 
  - Even if by some chance the Republican nominee implodes  depakid   Sep-16-07 02:12 PM   #235 
  - Again, and it was right in the OP  cali   Sep-16-07 02:40 PM   #240 
  - The issue for me REALLY is not  never_get_over_it   Sep-16-07 02:21 PM   #236 
  - Hillary is not my first choice or even my second or third.  MiltonF   Sep-16-07 02:28 PM   #237 
  - It's not that. DUers would RATHER a republican win than Clinton. They hate her that much.  BlooInBloo   Sep-16-07 02:29 PM   #238 
  - Black and white thinkers  goodgd_yall   Sep-16-07 03:37 PM   #242 
     - That's why it's funny watching the cognitive dissonance with Clark. LOL!  BlooInBloo   Sep-16-07 03:39 PM   #243 
     - Not necessarily the thinking that's black and white, it's the principles that are  The Vinyl Ripper   Sep-16-07 07:43 PM   #264 
  - I believe Obama can easily defeat any of what the GOP have to offer with no difficulties whatsoever.  Imagevision   Sep-16-07 06:40 PM   #256 
  - Sadly, you're right. She could win - and little would change.  Zhade   Sep-16-07 11:20 PM   #268 
  - Oh - I fully expect Thompson to thump her like a drum.  Clark2008   Sep-17-07 11:50 AM   #273 
  - She's still our weakest candidate because she energizes their base.  redqueen   Sep-17-07 11:52 AM   #274 
  - I don't neceassrily think she can't. But I see the republicans  mmonk   Sep-17-07 07:23 PM   #276 
 

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