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| 9. It was only a matter of time |
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The only question is: Am I being too cynical or not cynical enough?
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| -Breaking!Two of Soldiers who Criticised War in NYT OP ED appear to have Died! |
KoKo01 |
Sep-12-07 07:53 AM |
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Oh god |
wicket |
Sep-12-07 07:56 AM |
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Seconded. |
Dark |
Sep-12-07 10:16 AM |
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kicking |
rateyes |
Sep-12-07 07:59 AM |
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the rollover with the seven soldiers sounded horrible |
leftchick |
Sep-12-07 08:01 AM |
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2 vehicle rollovers? |
Botany |
Sep-12-07 08:02 AM |
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HummVee, like other jumbo SUV's are top heavy |
Netbeavis |
Sep-12-07 08:04 AM |
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thanx |
Botany |
Sep-12-07 08:23 AM |
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lol that's funny. |
Netbeavis |
Sep-12-07 08:47 AM |
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Asking Questions = Conspiracy theorist... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-12-07 08:34 AM |
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we must never tolerate them |
subsuelo |
Sep-12-07 07:26 PM |
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humvees roll over? i thought that was the centerpiece of |
mopinko |
Sep-12-07 08:52 AM |
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... |
gatorboy |
Sep-12-07 09:23 AM |
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I had a buddy in Iraq that had 2 friends die and he was badly injured in a rollover accident |
Pawel K |
Sep-12-07 10:45 AM |
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It's a common danger in Iraq.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 12:27 PM |
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Yes they can. But saying it wasn't an accident without any proof needs to stop |
Pawel K |
Sep-12-07 01:29 PM |
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What has this administration or the Pentagon done to deserve credibility? |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 01:45 PM |
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A lot of people lie. It doesn't mean every time someone critical of those liars dies |
Pawel K |
Sep-12-07 01:56 PM |
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Fine, chalk it up as another one of those happy coincidences that.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 02:05 PM |
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Amen! |
KneelBeforeZod |
Sep-12-07 03:25 PM |
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Excuse me but Bu$h provoked the 9-11 attacks. Bu$h angered the Taliban |
liberaldemocrat7 |
Sep-12-07 03:39 PM |
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Huh? |
KneelBeforeZod |
Sep-12-07 04:44 PM |
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Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the anthrax attacks? |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 05:25 PM |
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Anthrax ... |
KneelBeforeZod |
Sep-12-07 05:37 PM |
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You don't know any of that because there's never been a real investigation.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 07:57 AM |
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Why hasn't there been an investigation into Bush's lies in the lead up to war |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 08:53 AM |
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I fail to see what one has to do with the other.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 09:01 AM |
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Lying to war is a political and not a criminal investigation? |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 09:04 AM |
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How is lying a crime? |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 09:05 AM |
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He did do it under oath |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 09:12 AM |
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Bush has never been under oath before Congress... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 09:20 AM |
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I was under the assumption that the letter is considered to be under oath |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 09:55 AM |
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Oh boy, where to start? |
bvar22 |
Sep-12-07 08:37 PM |
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george bush August 6, 2001, and I quote... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 07:54 AM |
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Can you PROVE he is not Satan? |
BeHereNow |
Sep-12-07 09:23 PM |
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Beelzeshrub |
tomeboy |
Sep-13-07 05:42 AM |
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Excellent! Welcome to DU... |
BeHereNow |
Sep-13-07 05:23 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 09:07 AM |
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Thanks ... |
KneelBeforeZod |
Sep-13-07 10:40 AM |
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Blame may be the wrong word. |
FREEWILL56 |
Sep-12-07 04:42 PM |
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bs |
whathappened |
Sep-12-07 07:38 PM |
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Because everything that ... |
stillcool47 |
Sep-12-07 08:03 PM |
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The pool of soldiers who've complained is much smaller |
melody |
Sep-13-07 01:11 AM |
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You are asking me to prove a negative |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 09:02 AM |
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I have to go back to the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman stories.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 09:16 AM |
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You're framing the question as an either/or |
melody |
Sep-13-07 09:19 AM |
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I studied plenty about it |
Pawel K |
Sep-13-07 10:02 AM |
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Again, you're proposing belief over agnosticism |
melody |
Sep-13-07 05:17 PM |
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The more rational option is not accusing people of murder with no evidance to back it up |
Pawel K |
Sep-14-07 08:42 AM |
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That's an emotional reaction, not a rational one |
melody |
Sep-14-07 06:28 PM |
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There's a difference between |
John Gauger |
Sep-12-07 03:07 PM |
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On a stable road, maybe. At speed, or over debris, not even close. |
TheWraith |
Sep-12-07 12:35 PM |
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Actually, the new armored Humvees are very unstable. |
Xithras |
Sep-12-07 04:11 PM |
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Maybe with the original design, but I expect that once it's been |
NCevilDUer |
Sep-12-07 08:40 PM |
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sorry to be frivolous and irreverent here... |
tomeboy |
Sep-13-07 03:33 AM |
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Bullshit ! |
screembloodymurder |
Sep-12-07 08:57 AM |
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The situation is different when there are roadside bombs |
IronLionZion |
Sep-12-07 09:27 AM |
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Added weight of "uparmored" HMMMV |
liam_laddie |
Sep-12-07 10:02 AM |
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Having rolled a HumVee, I call bullshit to your bullshit |
malmapus |
Sep-12-07 10:59 AM |
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Twenty people in a Hummvee? |
conscious evolution |
Sep-12-07 09:29 AM |
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uh yeah |
LibFromWV |
Sep-12-07 10:02 AM |
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No, Hummers are top heavy. |
phatkatt |
Sep-12-07 10:03 AM |
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HummVees are top-heavy? |
redqueen |
Sep-12-07 11:08 AM |
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uhm |
kenfrequed |
Sep-12-07 11:41 AM |
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You'd probably be driving real fast if somebody was chasing |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 12:24 PM |
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Everybody needs a nay sayer. |
IsItJustMe |
Sep-12-07 03:48 PM |
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Agree. If they were targetted, there would not have been so many |
NCevilDUer |
Sep-12-07 08:37 PM |
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So are you a coincidence theorist? n/t |
iaviate1 |
Sep-12-07 08:43 PM |
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One more for you |
marekjed |
Sep-12-07 02:50 PM |
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observing a moment of silence |
Netbeavis |
Sep-12-07 08:02 AM |
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My heart goes out to the family |
Maggie_May |
Sep-12-07 08:02 AM |
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Posted here |
cali |
Sep-12-07 08:05 AM |
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It was only a matter of time |
TechBear_Seattle |
Sep-12-07 08:13 AM |
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I'm more cynical that you are--and I don't think either of us is being cynical enough |
Nikki Stone1 |
Sep-12-07 11:20 AM |
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The "Sopranos administration"/Mafia White House... |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Sep-12-07 12:37 PM |
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No harm in thinking critically about the "official story" here... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 12:29 PM |
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I can't believe they were brought up at the Senate hearings yesterday, and |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-12-07 08:15 AM |
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There's been numerous rollovers. |
gatorboy |
Sep-12-07 08:27 AM |
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They roll over when a bomb goes off under the vehicle |
screembloodymurder |
Sep-12-07 09:01 AM |
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Unfortunately, the added armor is also a culprit in rollovers. |
gatorboy |
Sep-12-07 09:11 AM |
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they drive "defensively" - meaning like crazies |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 11:40 AM |
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The trolls will be here soon to 'tone it down' or get into outright ridicule |
higher class |
Sep-12-07 08:57 AM |
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And the fools are apparently already here claiming conspiracy and labeling anyone |
cryingshame |
Sep-12-07 09:38 AM |
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I know nothing about rollovers and I'm not saying there is anything |
higher class |
Sep-12-07 09:52 AM |
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Pardon those of us who maintain a connection to reality. |
TheWraith |
Sep-12-07 12:49 PM |
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Two of seven who shared their thoughts - that means many people |
higher class |
Sep-12-07 01:23 PM |
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And what's the real harm in using this board to speculate on the facts? |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 01:50 PM |
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One, when people start talking about Cheney ordering hits on people who complain about the war |
TheWraith |
Sep-12-07 02:33 PM |
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Not even remotely likely? |
redqueen |
Sep-12-07 02:54 PM |
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You seem like you have a real axe to grind on this one bud. |
IsItJustMe |
Sep-12-07 04:00 PM |
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I get peeved about this sort of thing, same as with 9/11 conspiracy theories. |
TheWraith |
Sep-14-07 12:23 AM |
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No one here is saying that Bush or Cheney |
John Gauger |
Sep-12-07 03:23 PM |
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I don't think that doubting the official story equates to blaming Bush and Cheney.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 05:21 PM |
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What then are you suggesting? |
John Gauger |
Sep-12-07 05:36 PM |
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I'm suggesting it may not have been an "accident"... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 07:59 AM |
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It's certainly possible. |
John Gauger |
Sep-13-07 03:06 PM |
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I agree |
disndat |
Sep-12-07 07:01 PM |
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K & R |
femrap |
Sep-12-07 09:09 AM |
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Hagel speaks of their op-ed piece yesterday during the hearing-video: |
mod mom |
Sep-12-07 09:10 AM |
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NOOOO! This is so tragic! n/t |
whereismyparty |
Sep-12-07 09:16 AM |
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May I suggest the other 5 who co-wrote the op-ed...watch their backs? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Sep-12-07 09:33 AM |
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Staff Sgt. Jeremy Murphy was shot in the head before the op-ed |
Dudley_DUright |
Sep-12-07 09:45 AM |
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Did they both die in rollovers or were they completely seperate situations? |
superkia |
Sep-12-07 10:02 AM |
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They both died in 2 seperate rollovers. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Sep-12-07 10:38 AM |
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well, as screembloodymurder pointed out above... |
renate |
Sep-12-07 10:09 AM |
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You don't know what we're dealing with here. People who are willing to stifle dissent |
in_cog_ni_to |
Sep-12-07 10:52 AM |
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Loosen up the tin foil. |
TheWraith |
Sep-12-07 12:42 PM |
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Sorry...I bought stock in Reynold's Foil because I need so much of it! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Sep-12-07 01:10 PM |
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Please stop. Pat Tillman was not murdered. |
lwfern |
Sep-12-07 09:15 PM |
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Agree--just a bad coincidence. Get a grip, folks. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-12-07 01:35 PM |
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I lost my grip long ago, unfortunately.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 01:47 PM |
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I know what you mean--it's so hard not to be constantly cynical and suspicious. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-12-07 02:33 PM |
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Or maybe they were known to be anti-war too...so who cares? |
Auntie Bush |
Sep-12-07 01:19 PM |
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Bush or Cheney probably ordered... |
backscatter712 |
Sep-12-07 11:05 AM |
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Sgt Omar Mora and Sgt Yance |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-12-07 09:53 AM |
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Sgt Mora |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 12:03 PM |
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god... |
redqueen |
Sep-12-07 02:55 PM |
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Can we officially call this "The Tillman Treatment?" |
derby378 |
Sep-12-07 10:05 AM |
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Just sending a message.... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-12-07 10:41 AM |
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Yeah |
kenfrequed |
Sep-12-07 11:44 AM |
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What anthrax? I don't recall. I don't remember. |
valerief |
Sep-12-07 05:03 PM |
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No. |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 12:00 PM |
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It's sad that the level of mistrust runs so deep... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 01:53 PM |
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If your looking to blame someone for the amount of mis-trust, paranoia, suspicion, and cynicism |
IsItJustMe |
Sep-12-07 04:09 PM |
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It would be interesting to know if these two vehicles came from the same mortor vehicle pool |
MadHound |
Sep-12-07 10:47 AM |
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It was one vehicle - seven killed, 10 injured |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 11:34 AM |
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Stunned. Shocked. |
Mabus |
Sep-12-07 10:49 AM |
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AW SHITTTTTTTTTTT! |
zidzi |
Sep-12-07 10:52 AM |
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The exclamation points make the subject line seem celebratory. |
swag |
Sep-12-07 11:07 AM |
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WHEN 1 PLANE HIT A TOWER |
radfringe |
Sep-12-07 11:08 AM |
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The 2 died in same vehicle accident |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-12-07 11:51 AM |
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IM SO SICK OF IT, MAKE IT STOP |
LSK |
Sep-12-07 11:22 AM |
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I, too, want it to stop NOW |
janetle |
Sep-12-07 11:28 AM |
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more |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 11:33 AM |
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Bushco murders yet again. nt |
Oregonian |
Sep-12-07 11:34 AM |
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Heartbreakingly sad. |
democrank |
Sep-12-07 11:34 AM |
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It is true- Added Today at Final Roll Call |
appleannie1 |
Sep-12-07 11:43 AM |
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K&R.nt |
nam78_two |
Sep-12-07 11:50 AM |
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Soldiers Fathers Speak Out |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-12-07 11:53 AM |
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Determined Enemies and Questionable Allies |
OzarkDem |
Sep-12-07 12:15 PM |
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May their families get the support they need in this time. |
Ken Burch |
Sep-12-07 11:54 AM |
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FUCK--they were Tillmaned.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 12:22 PM |
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I asked the same question and used the same term and spellling before I saw your post. |
valerief |
Sep-12-07 05:00 PM |
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Not an unreasonable interpretation |
malaise |
Sep-12-07 06:30 PM |
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this headline took my breath away. |
barbtries |
Sep-12-07 01:11 PM |
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I am so sorry they are gone. |
judaspriestess |
Sep-12-07 01:21 PM |
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fragged? |
SoCalDem |
Sep-12-07 01:30 PM |
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GENERAL BETRAYUS HERE......... |
happygoluckytoyou |
Sep-12-07 01:36 PM |
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The really scary thing here is not whether this is coincidence |
ooglymoogly |
Sep-12-07 01:42 PM |
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I'm just going to assume that it is just a freak coincidence |
PeterU |
Sep-12-07 01:51 PM |
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WHO ? US ? |
happygoluckytoyou |
Sep-12-07 01:56 PM |
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Condolences to their families and |
trashcanistanista |
Sep-12-07 02:00 PM |
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I smell a cover up. My bet is that they were fragged. |
L0oniX |
Sep-12-07 02:12 PM |
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We owe them a thorough investigation into this rollover |
trashcanistanista |
Sep-12-07 02:17 PM |
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Criticize the Little Prince, get extra-hazardous duty? I'll believe that. |
eppur_se_muova |
Sep-12-07 02:30 PM |
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K&R |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-12-07 03:27 PM |
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How do I contact these soldiers to thank them? |
bos1 |
Sep-12-07 04:03 PM |
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Oh God Let The Kooky Conspiracy Theories Commence... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-12-07 04:12 PM |
#113 |
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Not silly, sad... |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-12-07 05:29 PM |
#123 |
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The MSM and the Christians |
roxnev |
Sep-12-07 04:42 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-12-07 05:08 PM |
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Think they were Tillmaned? nt |
valerief |
Sep-12-07 04:57 PM |
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So quickly, so sadly. |
MasonJar |
Sep-12-07 06:21 PM |
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Media doesn't want to cover it because it will involve covering their OP ed piece |
debbierlus |
Sep-12-07 06:24 PM |
#127 |
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geez louise |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 07:00 PM |
#129 |
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Know your BFEE. |
fooj |
Sep-12-07 07:04 PM |
#131 |
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Yikes!! RollOver is the new code word for "blown up'! |
Breeze54 |
Sep-12-07 07:06 PM |
#132 |
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Olbermann is covering this story |
Catchawave |
Sep-12-07 07:12 PM |
#133 |
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Now-I am not a conspiracy theorist-but remember THIS about Jessica Lynch's rescuers |
w8liftinglady |
Sep-12-07 08:47 PM |
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What can you say? This is so tragic. Blessing to their families. |
1776Forever |
Sep-12-07 08:56 PM |
#142 |
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Vehicle swerved, went off overpass |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 08:59 PM |
#143 |
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How sad |
proud patriot |
Sep-12-07 09:01 PM |
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For those who may be interested... |
frogcycle |
Sep-12-07 09:06 PM |
#145 |
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How many journalist critics of Bush have been killed in Iraq |
provis99 |
Sep-13-07 12:22 AM |
#148 |
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I'm also reminded of the ominous "how's your boy" line Bush.. |
Virginia Dare |
Sep-13-07 08:01 AM |
#156 |
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Was this another friendly fire incident? |
B Calm |
Sep-13-07 05:52 AM |
#152 |
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I'm not joining the chorus of those saying this was a hit job |
Wednesdays |
Sep-13-07 09:05 AM |
#162 |
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