Netbeavis
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:50 AM
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| 24. Bashing his medals makes us all Swiftboaters.... |
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Folks, I know its hard, bu lets take the high road here.
Prior to Gen. Petraeus being selected/drafted to hold Bush's water, he was an excellent Army officer and soldier. For his testimony yesterday, feel free to fire away and post away.
Go ahead and criticize Petraeus for toeing Bush's line, but his service to this country, something that many of us have openly chosen not to do, prior to this last year has been nothing less than exemplary and a model for years to come.
To bash the citations, medals and his long honorable service, makes us no better than those we despise. We become the Swift-boaters as that is the same bulls**t they pulled on Kerry.
Attack the message, not the messenger.
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| -How did Petraeus earn his Bronze Star with 'V' device? |
Cruzan |
Sep-11-07 05:19 AM |
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An IED sent it flying over the GreenZone wall and onto his lobster bib? nm |
dicksteele |
Sep-11-07 05:23 AM |
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as with most officers, it's how well you suck up that determines |
B Calm |
Sep-11-07 05:30 AM |
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I had to laugh at his chest full of medals and all those silly patches. |
soothsayer |
Sep-11-07 05:54 AM |
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It does seem the Army over does it a bit with the bling. |
Cruzan |
Sep-11-07 06:31 AM |
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It's ludicrous. Not just officers. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 06:47 AM |
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It is not ludicrous. |
Squatch |
Sep-11-07 06:54 AM |
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I Agree... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 06:57 AM |
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The full bank of chest salad, along with all the other bells and whistles |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 07:27 AM |
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When you are a four star... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:33 AM |
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I Have A Question |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 08:07 AM |
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Ribbons aren't worn on fatigues, just patches. |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 08:20 AM |
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No |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 08:38 AM |
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I thought you were required to wear rank insignia. |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:57 AM |
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The modern ACU has velcro-attached rank insignia. |
Squatch |
Sep-11-07 09:06 AM |
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I thought it was a Geneva Convention thing. Has this rule changed since WWII? Curious. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 09:12 AM |
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Possibly not. Even so... |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 10:52 AM |
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I think the rule has changed. In WWII you fought with your rank insignia.... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 10:26 PM |
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Oh you better believe that some poor schmuck butter bar LT has to get General Peaches |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-11-07 11:25 PM |
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A four star general's Aide de Camp is usually a Lieutenant Colonel |
Squatch |
Sep-12-07 08:47 AM |
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George C. Marshall's was a sergeant. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-12-07 10:56 AM |
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And the Sultans of Turkey had hundreds of concubines. |
Squatch |
Sep-12-07 11:06 AM |
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Well, generals can assign their own uniforms, though they tend not to anymore |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 08:16 AM |
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In the late 70s the Marine Corps commandant was photographed in a recruiting poster... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:40 AM |
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My father served 30 years.... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:01 AM |
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My Dad |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 07:07 AM |
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Where did he serve in WWII? nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:42 AM |
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Tunisian, Sicilian Italian, Campaigns |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 07:56 AM |
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Tough duty! A friend of mine's brother walked away from Anzio without a scratch. Luck counts. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:32 AM |
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My Dad Took Shrapnel In The Eye And Belly ... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 08:35 AM |
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Anzio Is Where Bob Dole Was Almost Blown Up |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 09:05 AM |
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Inoyue - sp? - was in Italy, was he at Anzio? nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 09:13 AM |
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Here |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 09:46 AM |
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If you mean when Dole was wounded... |
tuckessee |
Sep-11-07 10:47 PM |
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Hell yes n/t |
KeineAhnung |
Sep-11-07 10:27 PM |
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As a former officer, I know for a fact that it takes "little to nothing" for Field Grade and |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-11-07 11:17 PM |
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Here's me with my bling: |
Aristus |
Sep-11-07 11:08 PM |
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There was a CNO who killed himself because |
fasttense |
Sep-11-07 06:03 AM |
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In fact it was for a V he was not authorized to wear. |
Cruzan |
Sep-11-07 06:34 AM |
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My Neighbor And Friend Has Two Bronze Stars Without The V |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-11-07 06:46 AM |
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The problem is we'll never know if he wore it deliberately or |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 08:16 AM |
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Adm Jeremy Boorda |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 07:05 AM |
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Those time frames really vary according to demand for certain ranks. |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:19 AM |
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Well, that's what got my attention. |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 07:37 AM |
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What a breath of fresh air Boorda was.. |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:21 AM |
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A naval Captain is the equivalent to a Colonel (O6) |
hootinholler |
Sep-11-07 07:39 AM |
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He's talkin' army/marines. |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:52 AM |
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I thought he's wondering why the Admiral was stuck at Captain for so long. |
hootinholler |
Sep-11-07 10:00 AM |
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Which reminds me of a story... |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 08:36 AM |
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better story |
jollyreaper2112 |
Sep-11-07 09:17 AM |
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Not a jump to major, a jump to Lieutenant Commander. |
fasttense |
Sep-11-07 09:01 AM |
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Captain to Lt. Commnder is a 2 grade bust in the navy. n/t |
hootinholler |
Sep-11-07 10:02 AM |
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In Petraeus' case, it's no big deal |
jmowreader |
Sep-11-07 10:41 AM |
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Petraeus's chest candy is an embarassment. Combined, Ike, Nimitz, and King... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 06:44 AM |
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I'll agree with you |
Zenzic |
Sep-11-07 07:55 AM |
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Westmoreland had been in 3 major wars. LOTS more combat time than Clark, Petraeus, etc. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 10:24 PM |
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Patton couldn't get enough of them, though |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 08:31 AM |
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Patton wore the foreign awards. And a four star could basically design their own uniform.... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:37 AM |
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Then I vote for General Peaches to use "a little rouge" and remove four rows of ribbons. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-11-07 09:18 AM |
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You know, only TWO MOHs have been awarded in the Iraq War? |
grytpype |
Sep-11-07 07:26 AM |
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Not nearly so many people involved in actual combat. |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 07:31 AM |
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Bashing his medals makes us all Swiftboaters.... |
Netbeavis |
Sep-11-07 07:50 AM |
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Then it's a good thing that "wondering how he got one of them" isn't the same as "bashing", eh? nm |
dicksteele |
Sep-11-07 08:32 AM |
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the question started out harmless enough.. |
Netbeavis |
Sep-11-07 08:57 AM |
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That's a fair statement, IMHO. It's still LIGHT YEARS away from "swiftboating", though. nm |
dicksteele |
Sep-11-07 09:11 AM |
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its a slippery slope. We can not condemn what we ourselves practice. |
Netbeavis |
Sep-11-07 09:40 AM |
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I see your point. He earned his as much as anyone else in his day earned theirs...it's the system |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:34 AM |
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Yeah, you can go after the message and what he wrote |
Netbeavis |
Sep-11-07 09:04 AM |
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Very true. Dad started his career as a yeoman in the Pentagon... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 09:15 AM |
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My grandfather had a long time friend who was a career officer |
Netbeavis |
Sep-11-07 09:42 AM |
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Point taken about trashing him for just wearing the chest salad. |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 11:03 AM |
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I have to agree to some extent. The question is giving me a bit of a 2004 flashback |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-11-07 11:11 PM |
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I had to get shot to get each of the two that I have. |
ThomWV |
Sep-11-07 07:55 AM |
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Wear 'em with pride ThomWV! nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 09:42 AM |
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Najaf |
dmesg |
Sep-11-07 08:29 AM |
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Then he earned it. Nuff said. n/t |
sarge43 |
Sep-11-07 08:44 AM |
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Who cares? ...and why act like a Bushie? |
mrbluto |
Sep-11-07 08:37 AM |
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A sub veteran board I participate in is asking the same question, and they're conservatives. It's- |
MookieWilson |
Sep-11-07 08:42 AM |
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What I don't get is that, I recall that the General Officers during WWI and WWII (pictures) |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-11-07 09:11 AM |
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My hubby and I were talking about it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-11-07 10:59 PM |
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Bubbleheads didn't use to get many medals.... |
MookieWilson |
Sep-12-07 08:44 AM |
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