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2. excellent observation. k&r nt
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  -The "frozen" parts of the "bin Laden" video contain all of the contemporary references eridani  Sep-10-07 05:34 AM   #0 
  - K & R  Terri S   Sep-10-07 06:06 AM   #1 
  - Same here  Mad_Dem_X   Sep-10-07 01:00 PM   #26 
  - I first saw the observation in a thread...  krispos42   Sep-11-07 01:18 AM   #72 
  - excellent observation. k&r nt  druidity33   Sep-10-07 07:20 AM   #2 
  - Can someone explain what digital morphing is?  midnight   Sep-10-07 07:27 AM   #3 
  - remember the sit com Rosanne?  notadmblnd   Sep-10-07 07:33 AM   #5 
     - I always think of Godley & Creme's video, "Cry," when I  Clark2008   Sep-10-07 11:40 AM   #20 
  - It's looking more and more like a mock-up.  annabanana   Sep-10-07 07:30 AM   #4 
  - K & R  Christa   Sep-10-07 07:52 AM   #6 
  - or just in time for the petraus report.  robinlynne   Sep-10-07 10:55 AM   #15 
  - Another observation...he even changes propotions at the time break  Atman   Sep-10-07 07:56 AM   #7 
  - Is there some notion among conservatives...  Beartracks   Sep-10-07 08:15 PM   #55 
  - Absolutely Correct...  RoccoR5955   Sep-11-07 06:34 AM   #87 
  - That's quite a revelation  Canuckistanian   Sep-10-07 08:01 AM   #8 
  - They already have the added advantage of digital noise and artifacts  Atman   Sep-10-07 08:32 AM   #10 
  - Fake and our government probably is behind it.  iaviate1   Sep-10-07 02:38 PM   #35 
  - k&r n/t  negativenihil   Sep-10-07 08:10 AM   #9 
  - Combine Op Mockingbird with military PsyOps and VOILA !  EVDebs   Sep-10-07 10:15 AM   #11 
  - Everything the bush gang tells us about 9-11, bin Laden,  leftofthedial   Sep-10-07 10:25 AM   #12 
  - I recently read Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink"  SmokingJacket   Sep-10-07 10:33 AM   #13 
  - Exactly. And when we ignore our "knowing" we can end up talking ourselves  gateley   Sep-10-07 10:00 PM   #61 
  - Unfortunately, no one in the MSM has even suggested that maybe it's not authentic  rox63   Sep-10-07 10:48 AM   #14 
  - More than 80 thousand people have seen the video at BooMan  RainDog   Sep-10-07 12:28 PM   #25 
  - The audio is probably "genuine"  robcon   Sep-10-07 11:17 AM   #16 
  - It doesn't sound like him, though.  knitter4democracy   Sep-10-07 01:20 PM   #28 
  - by al Qaeda,?  Juniperx   Sep-10-07 01:32 PM   #31 
  - With voice morphing, audio can be "genuine" and fake at the same time  eridani   Sep-10-07 07:04 PM   #53 
  - Are you comparing Spectrograms? or are you just talking out your ass?  slampoet   Sep-11-07 01:36 AM   #75 
  - I noted that Friday  Hyper_Eye   Sep-10-07 11:24 AM   #17 
  - If Bruce Lawrence says it is a fake, I believe it's a fake.  yardwork   Sep-10-07 11:33 AM   #18 
  - Having worked in video editing for years and have ample experience  Javaman   Sep-10-07 11:36 AM   #19 
  - What, technically speaking, makes you so sure the videos are fake?  Pawel K   Sep-10-07 01:53 PM   #34 
     - aside from my general distrust of the admin*...  Javaman   Sep-10-07 02:53 PM   #37 
        - Do you have access to a vector scope or a wave form monitor?  eridani   Sep-10-07 06:53 PM   #52 
        - how about this idea  kineneb   Sep-10-07 08:23 PM   #56 
        - bingo  Tunkamerica   Sep-11-07 01:42 AM   #78 
        - Actually the question is what happened to the Good camera he already had?  slampoet   Sep-11-07 02:18 AM   #81 
        - Bravo. Good explination. As an audio expert let me add my comments.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 02:16 AM   #80 
        - Thanks for the explaination, that's exactly what I was looking for  Pawel K   Sep-11-07 10:04 AM   #90 
  - The forgeries are debunkable and clearly so  tom_paine   Sep-10-07 11:50 AM   #21 
  - Two huge problems with this conspiracy theory:  Kelly Rupert   Sep-10-07 11:55 AM   #22 
  - I have already heard several right wing propagandists  ooglymoogly   Sep-10-07 01:28 PM   #30 
  - That's what ALL the RWWs say. I tell them it's because  Raksha   Sep-10-07 01:43 PM   #33 
  - Really?  Juniperx   Sep-10-07 01:34 PM   #32 
  - Care to respond,  Kelly Rupert   Sep-10-07 02:42 PM   #36 
  - Bushco equal shoddy  PATRICK   Sep-10-07 02:58 PM   #38 
  - Not quite true....  Spazito   Sep-10-07 03:24 PM   #41 
  - SEE! This is what I don't get. The tape is a HUGE reminder of what a Fuck Up'W' is...  paparush   Sep-10-07 06:06 PM   #48 
     - bush has already lost all credibility with the American public with  Spazito   Sep-10-07 06:20 PM   #49 
     - That isn't what the tape is for  eridani   Sep-10-07 07:37 PM   #54 
  - Wrong: "Bush Says Bin Laden Tape Shows Importance of Resolve (Update1) "  berni_mccoy   Sep-10-07 04:36 PM   #44 
  - possible explanation for point 1  creeksneakers2   Sep-10-07 09:59 PM   #60 
  - But you and I know the solid wingers don't need propaganda.  Kelly Rupert   Sep-10-07 11:15 PM   #63 
  - It isn't easy to morph a mouth.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 01:40 AM   #76 
  - Reich wing talk radio this week was about Osama and how much he agrees with Dems.  Mountainman   Sep-10-07 12:15 PM   #23 
  - That was my first thought  RoccoR5955   Sep-11-07 06:39 AM   #88 
  - and I have yet to see an explanation of how the US got this before Al Jazeera.  bbgrunt   Sep-10-07 12:27 PM   #24 
  - Research the SITE institute and Rita Katz  Generator   Sep-10-07 03:02 PM   #39 
  - Wow. Good point.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 02:20 AM   #82 
  - The language has not been nearly flowery enough in the recent videos.  JDPriestly   Sep-10-07 01:12 PM   #27 
  - I compared the transcript from the video of bin Laden shortly after  Spazito   Sep-10-07 06:25 PM   #50 
  - Parables. That is exactly one element that is missing.  JDPriestly   Sep-11-07 12:22 AM   #66 
  - Exactly, but probably Arabic speaking Muslims wouldn't use that adjective  eridani   Sep-10-07 10:20 PM   #62 
  - k+r  Progs Rock   Sep-10-07 01:21 PM   #29 
  - After the Beating CBS and Dan Rather Took in 2004  Mr. Ected   Sep-10-07 03:20 PM   #40 
  - looks like KKKarl will have to get someone other than a high school  madmom   Sep-10-07 04:13 PM   #42 
  - This post is exquisite! K*R  autorank   Sep-10-07 04:26 PM   #43 
  - BuzzFlash.net users - go hear and buzz eridani's story  autorank   Sep-10-07 04:47 PM   #45 
  - Buzzed it.  bleever   Sep-10-07 09:18 PM   #58 
     - Cool isn't it. The stories rarely make it over, I think.  autorank   Sep-11-07 01:00 AM   #70 
  - see our government is copying George Orwell  bambino   Sep-10-07 04:59 PM   #46 
  - OBL photo from the FBI Most Wanted list circa 1998  Whoa_Nelly   Sep-10-07 05:05 PM   #47 
  - Seems to be a lot of consensus on this and other threads--  eridani   Sep-10-07 11:51 PM   #64 
  - The things he has taken part in always astound me...  Hyper_Eye   Sep-11-07 12:44 AM   #68 
  - what if bin laden is the wizard of oz!  scarface2004   Sep-10-07 06:44 PM   #51 
  - Has anyone pointed out that the still shot at the end is the same as  bleever   Sep-10-07 08:32 PM   #57 
  - It's a special 2007 Bin Laden REMIX  killbotfactory   Sep-10-07 09:22 PM   #59 
  - The two tapes have two different people.  Bitwit1234   Sep-10-07 11:54 PM   #65 
  - Let's stop worrying about the authenticity  EnricoFermi   Sep-11-07 12:42 AM   #67 
  - I think it matters  eridani   Sep-11-07 12:49 AM   #69 
     - The video matters, but who it came from does not  EnricoFermi   Sep-11-07 01:10 AM   #71 
        - Yes, but how do we convince people like your friends who signed up?  eridani   Sep-11-07 01:30 AM   #74 
           - I agree  EnricoFermi   Sep-11-07 01:41 AM   #77 
  - For Everyone who Flamed me TWO YEARS AGO for suggesting Voice morphing. Please apologize  slampoet   Sep-11-07 01:29 AM   #73 
  - I didn't flame you--I looked up everything I could find about voice morphing  eridani   Sep-11-07 02:05 AM   #79 
     - I didn't say that you flamed me. In fact you included some of the best sources on this Voice morph.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 02:38 AM   #83 
        - I very much appreciate the geeky expertise that DU supplies in such huge amounts  eridani   Sep-11-07 04:14 AM   #84 
           - I have the vid you sent the link for. Haven't seen if that has some quality or not.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 11:23 AM   #91 
              - Please post your findings to the research section--  eridani   Sep-11-07 01:03 PM   #92 
                 - Cool, I'll try. But I can't post subjects.  slampoet   Sep-11-07 05:13 PM   #93 
                    - Yes, you can post subjects--anybody can after a minimum number less than 50  eridani   Sep-11-07 09:15 PM   #101 
  - Another fake video  meowomon   Sep-11-07 04:38 AM   #85 
  - When I first saw this video, I immediately knew it was fake.  obiwan   Sep-11-07 04:54 AM   #86 
  - Hmmm I remember the photo showing a 50% grey beard  L0oniX   Sep-11-07 09:00 AM   #89 
  - sometimes I think the Bushies make these obvious fakes just to fuck with us and...  yurbud   Sep-11-07 07:10 PM   #94 
  - Sometimes?  malaise   Sep-11-07 07:18 PM   #95 
     - PIC: there within inches of Eminem's "Mosh" where the background falls down and...  yurbud   Sep-11-07 07:32 PM   #97 
     - Thanks for that n/t  malaise   Sep-11-07 08:15 PM   #99 
     - This is what I think, too -  JackRiddler   Sep-11-07 08:20 PM   #100 
  - You know .... its also possible that the tape, if fake, was made by the bad guys ........  Husb2Sparkly   Sep-11-07 07:20 PM   #96 
     - PIC: zarqawi looks suspiciously like this guy:  yurbud   Sep-11-07 07:34 PM   #98 
 

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