Tyler Durden
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Mon Sep-10-07 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 54. I merely used WASHINGTON STATE as an example. |
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There isn't enough bandwidth to display all of the stupid outdated FEDERAL laws.
That doesn't mean we have to tolerate OLD stupidity.
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| -Calif. Gray Whale Shot With Machine Gun |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-09-07 06:12 AM |
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I read a couple of stories |
cali |
Sep-09-07 06:14 AM |
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particularly with a machine gun.... |
SayWhatYo |
Sep-09-07 06:21 AM |
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Cali, see my post below....I am very familiar with the Makah tribe... |
Pachamama |
Sep-09-07 06:23 AM |
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I am only in favor of it if they are truly subsistence hunters |
alarimer |
Sep-09-07 12:06 PM |
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This makes me so angry....and shame, shame on the Makah tribe... |
Pachamama |
Sep-09-07 06:20 AM |
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I have read a little bit about this as well |
alarimer |
Sep-09-07 12:09 PM |
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I just went to the Seattle Times website and its front page news - the whale died & the tribe is |
Pachamama |
Sep-09-07 06:33 AM |
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kick |
Annces |
Sep-09-07 12:04 PM |
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That's terrible!!! |
Shine |
Sep-09-07 12:08 PM |
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DU front page says it was harpooned, and has a picture. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-09-07 12:09 PM |
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The OP says it was harpooned as well as being machine gunned |
MiniMe |
Sep-09-07 01:07 PM |
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There was no machine gun, just bad reporting. n/t |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 02:23 PM |
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I call BULL SHIT on the machine gunning of the whale. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 01:23 PM |
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Where the hell did they get the "Machine gun" report? |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 01:31 PM |
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Machine gun BULLSHIT!!! |
qdemn7 |
Sep-09-07 01:42 PM |
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Well, what about the CNN headline for starters: Tribal fishermen held after whale killed with machin |
MiniMe |
Sep-09-07 06:29 PM |
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But the preliminary report was wrong. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:32 PM |
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Where are you seeing that the prelim report was wrong? |
MiniMe |
Sep-09-07 09:36 PM |
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Uh, it was wrong because they didn't have machine guns. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:48 PM |
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Thanks for the link |
MiniMe |
Sep-09-07 09:58 PM |
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Possibly a Weatherby Mark V Deluxe bolt action. |
Lasher |
Sep-10-07 11:08 AM |
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I call un-bullshit and I'll give you pics |
flvegan |
Sep-09-07 09:40 PM |
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Show me a picture of a machine gun. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:46 PM |
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Show me the folks actually taking the shots. |
flvegan |
Sep-09-07 09:50 PM |
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I am arguing that it is a false story, that is all. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:59 PM |
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I'm arguing media error |
flvegan |
Sep-09-07 11:06 PM |
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Ooooh! What a manly post! The testosterone is positivley DRIPPING from those guns! |
Beausoir |
Sep-09-07 09:50 PM |
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Grow up. |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:52 PM |
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Friend, you are not doing us responsible gun owners a favor. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 06:50 AM |
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I'm a non-gun-expert. |
tofunut |
Sep-10-07 11:28 AM |
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I apologise. |
Wcross |
Sep-10-07 07:09 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-09-07 01:44 PM |
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List of violations by the Makah in killing this grey whale |
Annces |
Sep-09-07 02:48 PM |
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More hunting hypocrisy? nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Sep-09-07 06:34 PM |
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They weren't *hunters*, they were POACHERS. Please don't confuse the two. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-10-07 01:44 AM |
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How are they illegal poachers? They have an absolute right to go whaling |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 06:31 AM |
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No, they don't. |
tofunut |
Sep-10-07 11:36 AM |
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Hmm, I think I'd rather actually be killed by a machine gun |
riverdeep |
Sep-09-07 06:47 PM |
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Wouldn't be enough of you floating on the surface to eat. n/t |
Wcross |
Sep-09-07 09:36 PM |
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The Makah don't need anyone's permission to kill a whale |
cgrindley |
Sep-09-07 07:05 PM |
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Spoken like someone with absolutely NO idea what they're talking about. |
flvegan |
Sep-09-07 11:08 PM |
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Article 4, Treaty of Neah Bay, 1855 |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 06:28 AM |
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The way I read this indicates that they CAN'T whale anytime they want |
DinoBoy |
Sep-10-07 11:02 AM |
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No they can't. Once again you spout off with your *opinion* and call it facts |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-10-07 01:48 AM |
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See above, Treaty of Neah Bay, 1855, article 4 |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 06:29 AM |
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Other Stupid Laws: Washington State |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 07:24 AM |
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It's not a Washington State Law, it's a Federal Treaty (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 09:30 AM |
#49 |
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I merely used WASHINGTON STATE as an example. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 09:45 AM |
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Get over it, it's a treaty right, it's not about to go away (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 09:58 AM |
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Get over it, We're in IRAQ, it's not about to go away... |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:26 AM |
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Two points |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:44 AM |
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I did not present that as an argument. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:48 AM |
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Well, using something to demonstrate something is indeed a type of |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:58 AM |
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You obviously didn't see the backhoe. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:07 AM |
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Still assertations without proof. *Here's* what a link looks like, with info |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-10-07 10:34 AM |
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That's not really the whole story and you know it |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:48 AM |
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Who's the one being difficult? You still provide no links or proof of your assertations. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Sep-10-07 11:11 AM |
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BOY I can smell those YEN now!!!! |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:11 AM |
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:13 AM |
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It's a violation of international law. And was not authorized by the Makah tribe, for that matter. |
LeftyMom |
Sep-10-07 11:10 AM |
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Why are they allowed to kill whales? |
fedupfisherman |
Sep-09-07 09:35 PM |
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Certain groups from Wikipedia |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-10-07 06:39 AM |
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Treaty of Neah Bay, 1855 |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 06:42 AM |
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Screw them AND their hunt. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 07:10 AM |
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By your tortured logic, the entire bill of rights is out of date (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 09:32 AM |
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Nope. We amend the constitution when REASON demands. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 09:36 AM |
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The whole nature of treaties is that they can't be randomly amended |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:00 AM |
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Fine. Then HOLD them to the treaty,. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:08 AM |
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The treaty does not specify traditional methods, only traditional grounds |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:15 AM |
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And letting them get KILLED for their tradition simply demonstrates its value. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:30 AM |
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I have the gawd-given right to machine gun whales if I want! |
leftofthedial |
Sep-10-07 01:46 AM |
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Actually, they have the Uncle Sam given right |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 06:33 AM |
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The Country that signed that treaty no longer exists. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 07:12 AM |
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WTF! It does so (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 09:31 AM |
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To paraphrase the Late Great Shelby Foote: |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 09:44 AM |
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You know nothing about the First Nations (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 09:57 AM |
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I know that if they want to be a NATION, then I don't want to SUPPORT them |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:25 AM |
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They've always been a nation and they were here first, hence the term |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:51 AM |
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I am INTIMATELY familiar with First Nations. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 10:56 AM |
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So do you think deer hunters should use bows only? (nt) |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:59 AM |
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Works for me. I'd let them use Black Powder too. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:03 AM |
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Well that's just silly |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 11:08 AM |
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You did notice the post about SELLING the carcase, not EATING it. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:15 AM |
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Yeah, but I simply don't give a shit |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 11:17 AM |
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That's it. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:19 AM |
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Bolt-action Weatherby hunting rifle, not a machinegun. |
benEzra |
Sep-10-07 10:34 AM |
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a box of .460 Weatherby Magnum rounds is like 100 bucks |
cgrindley |
Sep-10-07 10:56 AM |
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REAL tradition, that Weatherby. |
Tyler Durden |
Sep-10-07 11:00 AM |
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I'll tell you what! gawdjeezis gave me even MORE of a right |
leftofthedial |
Sep-10-07 12:42 PM |
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I have to fully support their ability to hunt the whales. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-10-07 10:03 AM |
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Why? Isn't it mostly for religious reasons? |
Ladyhawk |
Sep-10-07 12:51 PM |
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I don't believe it is an issue of ethics. I am not educated very well on this subject. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-10-07 12:55 PM |
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Thread on the subject in LBN |
Lasher |
Sep-10-07 10:29 AM |
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All moral issues aside....... |
Wcross |
Sep-10-07 08:58 PM |
#94 |
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