Jim Warren
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Sat Feb-10-07 04:19 PM
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| 48. dreams and nightmares |
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How completely without conscience this phrase is, an empty hollow hypnotist lullaby perpetrated by a ruling class to keep the peasants entranced.
Though probably around in various manipulative forms from earlier in our history (move west-settle territories-kill indians)it's modern version arose after WWII with the demise of the world manufacturing base after we bombed the shit out of the factories in Europe and East Asia.
The US had the means, IE the factories, and the market to rebuild the world, and all that was needed was cheap resources. Much to the loss of course to those places that were exploited to obtain them.
We, the workers, supplied the labor in exchange for The American Dream.
To add insult to injury, the WTO/New World Order capital brokers have abandoned the American worker and their precious dream yet some are still sycophantic enough to still be chanting the last stanzas of the free trade trance.
The fucking american dream, don't ya see, is one of if not the major causes of so-called terrorism today.
People the world over have gotten wise to what is going on.
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| -Is The "American Dream" Dead? What Is Your Experience? |
The Cleaner |
Feb-10-07 12:52 PM |
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It's dead . |
blues90 |
Feb-10-07 12:58 PM |
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You nailed it Blues! Dreams |
asjr |
Feb-10-07 01:07 PM |
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if the "dream" means building a successful and happy life, it is not dead |
msongs |
Feb-10-07 12:58 PM |
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"Victim class"? Like those in the 70% increase needing food stamps |
Lars39 |
Feb-10-07 01:05 PM |
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How long have you been on this planet? |
amandabeech |
Feb-10-07 01:54 PM |
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Victim class? With that sort of attitude I'm surprised you call yourself a Democrat |
Doremus |
Feb-10-07 02:09 PM |
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The American Dream is in palliative care and at the moment is comfortable |
whistle |
Feb-10-07 01:01 PM |
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if a family member has a chronic illness, certainly |
kineneb |
Feb-10-07 01:03 PM |
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I was just laid off by a charter school... |
rucky |
Feb-10-07 01:03 PM |
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i think it is easily still doable depending on what the "dream" is. |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-07 01:06 PM |
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say what? |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 02:00 PM |
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say what back acha |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-07 03:44 PM |
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What is the American Dream anyway? |
Tyo |
Feb-10-07 01:06 PM |
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the american dream was popularly understood to be the dream of being able to own your own home |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 02:02 PM |
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And even if you think you do own your home |
DiktatrW |
Feb-10-07 02:36 PM |
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Many working class people own their own homes around here |
Nikia |
Feb-10-07 03:02 PM |
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I thought it was that ,plus your children would have a life better than yours |
catzies |
Feb-10-07 03:11 PM |
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I am one of the victims of the American Dream. I worked my way thru |
Vincardog |
Feb-10-07 01:08 PM |
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I don't think so. |
Bonhomme Richard |
Feb-10-07 01:16 PM |
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I quit a good job with IBM Corp. in 1978 to build houses. It worked for me, |
heidler1 |
Feb-10-07 01:50 PM |
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as the talking heads say, it's not yesterday any more |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 02:04 PM |
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Maybe the American dream was the wrong dream, Everyone |
MasonJar |
Feb-10-07 01:25 PM |
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They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. |
originalpckelly |
Feb-10-07 01:25 PM |
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It never existed |
manic expression |
Feb-10-07 01:27 PM |
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I think it remains a defining factor of American life. For better or worse, |
pinto |
Feb-10-07 01:35 PM |
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I'm living it, so it definately isn't dead. |
Rosemary2205 |
Feb-10-07 01:52 PM |
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"my being paralyzed, my husband's memory problems, a bankruptcy" |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 02:09 PM |
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to love, to laugh, to participate is the dream. |
Rosemary2205 |
Feb-10-07 02:40 PM |
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reinvent into what ? |
blues90 |
Feb-10-07 03:48 PM |
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life isn't about money. |
Rosemary2205 |
Feb-10-07 04:01 PM |
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I agree it's not about money |
blues90 |
Feb-10-07 04:14 PM |
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it's dead |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 01:56 PM |
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the dream is not dead... |
jakem |
Feb-10-07 02:03 PM |
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then what on earth do you suggest? a life of crime? |
pitohui |
Feb-10-07 02:07 PM |
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you dont have to remind me of insurance costs... |
jakem |
Feb-10-07 02:53 PM |
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and besides... |
jakem |
Feb-10-07 02:56 PM |
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It isn't dead. Just dormant till these middle class haters are out of office. |
applegrove |
Feb-10-07 02:32 PM |
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We should be boycotting China |
Annces |
Feb-10-07 02:42 PM |
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Joe vs. the Volcano? |
The Cleaner |
Feb-10-07 02:58 PM |
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Merle Travis 1947 |
Annces |
Feb-10-07 03:29 PM |
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Yes, a dream requires a dreamer |
sweetheart |
Feb-10-07 03:04 PM |
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A 4 year degree isn't worth what it was in the past |
Nikia |
Feb-10-07 03:07 PM |
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For many it is a dream just to get through the month |
blues90 |
Feb-10-07 03:08 PM |
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Let's see. Just a personal list |
shadowknows69 |
Feb-10-07 03:10 PM |
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So everyone has lots of money to start with? |
sleebarker |
Feb-10-07 03:23 PM |
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my experience is not likely to be as valid as a statistical analysis |
hfojvt |
Feb-10-07 03:40 PM |
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Dead as the proverbial doornail |
HeeBGBz |
Feb-10-07 03:46 PM |
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It never really existed in the first place. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-10-07 04:14 PM |
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The "American Dream" is right-wing Social Darwinist propaganda. |
PLF |
Feb-10-07 04:54 PM |
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dreams and nightmares |
Jim Warren |
Feb-10-07 04:19 PM |
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And people wonder how the "third world" came to be. |
PLF |
Feb-10-07 04:56 PM |
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Gunboats, police squads and |
Jim Warren |
Feb-10-07 06:00 PM |
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exactly |
PLF |
Feb-11-07 11:38 AM |
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It's alive and well...in Canada and Australia. |
tasteblind |
Feb-10-07 05:02 PM |
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Was it ever alive? |
GirlinContempt |
Feb-10-07 05:05 PM |
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I don't think it's dead. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-10-07 05:05 PM |
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No |
Pavulon |
Feb-10-07 06:04 PM |
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I think I'm living it for now |
Geek_Girl |
Feb-10-07 06:18 PM |
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