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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 04:19 PM
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48. dreams and nightmares
How completely without conscience this phrase is, an empty hollow hypnotist lullaby perpetrated by a ruling class to keep the peasants entranced.

Though probably around in various manipulative forms from earlier in our history (move west-settle territories-kill indians)it's modern version arose after WWII with the demise of the world manufacturing base after we bombed the shit out of the factories in Europe and East Asia.

The US had the means, IE the factories, and the market to rebuild the world, and all that was needed was cheap resources. Much to the loss of course to those places that were exploited to obtain them.

We, the workers, supplied the labor in exchange for The American Dream.

To add insult to injury, the WTO/New World Order capital brokers have abandoned the American worker and their precious dream yet some are still sycophantic enough
to still be chanting the last stanzas of the free trade trance.

The fucking american dream, don't ya see, is one of if not the major causes of so-called terrorism today.

People the world over have gotten wise to what is going on.
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  -Is The "American Dream" Dead? What Is Your Experience? The Cleaner  Feb-10-07 12:52 PM   #0 
  - It's dead .  blues90   Feb-10-07 12:58 PM   #1 
  - You nailed it Blues! Dreams  asjr   Feb-10-07 01:07 PM   #8 
  - if the "dream" means building a successful and happy life, it is not dead  msongs   Feb-10-07 12:58 PM   #2 
  - "Victim class"? Like those in the 70% increase needing food stamps  Lars39   Feb-10-07 01:05 PM   #5 
  - How long have you been on this planet?  amandabeech   Feb-10-07 01:54 PM   #17 
  - Victim class? With that sort of attitude I'm surprised you call yourself a Democrat  Doremus   Feb-10-07 02:09 PM   #24 
  - The American Dream is in palliative care and at the moment is comfortable  whistle   Feb-10-07 01:01 PM   #3 
  - if a family member has a chronic illness, certainly  kineneb   Feb-10-07 01:03 PM   # 
  - I was just laid off by a charter school...  rucky   Feb-10-07 01:03 PM   #4 
  - i think it is easily still doable depending on what the "dream" is.  seabeyond   Feb-10-07 01:06 PM   #6 
  - say what?  pitohui   Feb-10-07 02:00 PM   #19 
     - say what back acha  seabeyond   Feb-10-07 03:44 PM   #42 
  - What is the American Dream anyway?  Tyo   Feb-10-07 01:06 PM   #7 
  - the american dream was popularly understood to be the dream of being able to own your own home  pitohui   Feb-10-07 02:02 PM   #20 
     - And even if you think you do own your home  DiktatrW   Feb-10-07 02:36 PM   #27 
     - Many working class people own their own homes around here  Nikia   Feb-10-07 03:02 PM   #33 
     - I thought it was that ,plus your children would have a life better than yours  catzies   Feb-10-07 03:11 PM   #38 
  - I am one of the victims of the American Dream. I worked my way thru  Vincardog   Feb-10-07 01:08 PM   #9 
  - I don't think so.  Bonhomme Richard   Feb-10-07 01:16 PM   #10 
  - I quit a good job with IBM Corp. in 1978 to build houses. It worked for me,  heidler1   Feb-10-07 01:50 PM   #15 
     - as the talking heads say, it's not yesterday any more  pitohui   Feb-10-07 02:04 PM   #22 
  - Maybe the American dream was the wrong dream, Everyone  MasonJar   Feb-10-07 01:25 PM   #11 
  - They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.  originalpckelly   Feb-10-07 01:25 PM   #12 
  - It never existed  manic expression   Feb-10-07 01:27 PM   #13 
  - I think it remains a defining factor of American life. For better or worse,  pinto   Feb-10-07 01:35 PM   #14 
  - I'm living it, so it definately isn't dead.  Rosemary2205   Feb-10-07 01:52 PM   #16 
  - "my being paralyzed, my husband's memory problems, a bankruptcy"  pitohui   Feb-10-07 02:09 PM   #25 
     - to love, to laugh, to participate is the dream.  Rosemary2205   Feb-10-07 02:40 PM   #28 
        - reinvent into what ?  blues90   Feb-10-07 03:48 PM   #44 
           - life isn't about money.  Rosemary2205   Feb-10-07 04:01 PM   #45 
              - I agree it's not about money  blues90   Feb-10-07 04:14 PM   #47 
  - it's dead  pitohui   Feb-10-07 01:56 PM   #18 
  - the dream is not dead...  jakem   Feb-10-07 02:03 PM   #21 
  - then what on earth do you suggest? a life of crime?  pitohui   Feb-10-07 02:07 PM   #23 
     - you dont have to remind me of insurance costs...  jakem   Feb-10-07 02:53 PM   #30 
     - and besides...  jakem   Feb-10-07 02:56 PM   #31 
  - It isn't dead. Just dormant till these middle class haters are out of office.  applegrove   Feb-10-07 02:32 PM   #26 
  - We should be boycotting China  Annces   Feb-10-07 02:42 PM   #29 
  - Joe vs. the Volcano?  The Cleaner   Feb-10-07 02:58 PM   #32 
     - Merle Travis 1947  Annces   Feb-10-07 03:29 PM   #40 
  - Yes, a dream requires a dreamer  sweetheart   Feb-10-07 03:04 PM   #34 
  - A 4 year degree isn't worth what it was in the past  Nikia   Feb-10-07 03:07 PM   #35 
  - For many it is a dream just to get through the month  blues90   Feb-10-07 03:08 PM   #36 
  - Let's see. Just a personal list  shadowknows69   Feb-10-07 03:10 PM   #37 
  - So everyone has lots of money to start with?  sleebarker   Feb-10-07 03:23 PM   #39 
  - my experience is not likely to be as valid as a statistical analysis  hfojvt   Feb-10-07 03:40 PM   #41 
  - Dead as the proverbial doornail  HeeBGBz   Feb-10-07 03:46 PM   #43 
  - It never really existed in the first place.  Odin2005   Feb-10-07 04:14 PM   #46 
  - The "American Dream" is right-wing Social Darwinist propaganda.  PLF   Feb-10-07 04:54 PM   #49 
  - dreams and nightmares  Jim Warren   Feb-10-07 04:19 PM   #48 
  - And people wonder how the "third world" came to be.  PLF   Feb-10-07 04:56 PM   #50 
     - Gunboats, police squads and  Jim Warren   Feb-10-07 06:00 PM   #54 
        - exactly  PLF   Feb-11-07 11:38 AM   #57 
  - It's alive and well...in Canada and Australia.  tasteblind   Feb-10-07 05:02 PM   #51 
  - Was it ever alive?  GirlinContempt   Feb-10-07 05:05 PM   #52 
  - I don't think it's dead.  Midlodemocrat   Feb-10-07 05:05 PM   #53 
  - No  Pavulon   Feb-10-07 06:04 PM   #55 
  - I think I'm living it for now  Geek_Girl   Feb-10-07 06:18 PM   #56 
 

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