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Tue Sep-04-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 21. eeks. says we should not put too much emphasis on BENCHmarks. |
| -Thread #1 New GEO report on Iraq now cspan3, Kerry, Sen. Foreign Rel. Comm. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:04 PM |
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Are you doing a live thread? |
cali |
Sep-04-07 01:05 PM |
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Kerry gavelled open |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:07 PM |
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Sen Kery's opening remarks |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 01:56 PM |
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thanks |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:58 PM |
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periodically, |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:06 PM |
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"looking for the Truth, best policy for the troops, our country and Iraq. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:09 PM |
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wants 'accurate' report. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:09 PM |
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NEEDS some RECOMMENDS please |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:10 PM |
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Done, I do like listening to Kerry as I paint. n/t |
buzzard |
Sep-04-07 01:12 PM |
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PURPOSE of surge was to give breathing room for political reconsilation but this |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:12 PM |
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k |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:12 PM |
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16 intellence agencies (no political 'progress') |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:13 PM |
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k |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:14 PM |
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k |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:14 PM |
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"wait until Sept" we hear. But results are on the table already |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:15 PM |
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'hundreds lost their lives' our troops during this surge (predicable results |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:16 PM |
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k |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:16 PM |
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k |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:17 PM |
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says this is a new moment of reckoning---but Adm. only moves Goalposts |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:18 PM |
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Listening in... |
citizen_jane |
Sep-04-07 01:18 PM |
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welcome. I thought I was alone here ---expect the painter:-) |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:19 PM |
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Lugar up on---saying not serve US interests if insert partison assessment. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:20 PM |
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eeks. says we should not put too much emphasis on BENCHmarks. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:21 PM |
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HEY----Lugar----the Iraqi LEADERS need to LEAD! |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:21 PM |
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Lugar is talking out of both sides of his ears! |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:22 PM |
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saying these benchmarks were made by MALIKI and his gov! |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:28 PM |
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candid about our troops |
Maggie_May |
Sep-04-07 01:23 PM |
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Uh oh,... sounds like bad news coming for the White House |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:26 PM |
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Iraqis met 3, did not meet 11, of 18 benchmarks.... hum that does not add up |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:28 PM |
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Kerry said earlier. some were just a smitchen met |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:30 PM |
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4 of the 18 benchmarks partially met |
Spazito |
Sep-04-07 02:06 PM |
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i had to leave a bit. What are you talking about? |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:29 PM |
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His overview of which benchmarks have been met (out of 18 total) |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:31 PM |
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thanks |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:39 PM |
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Just saw the thread - |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 01:30 PM |
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welcome. about the report card. you can't give an A if A work is not 'there" |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:41 PM |
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It sounds like an "F" to me |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 01:56 PM |
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Aahhh... those missing four benchmark grades were 'partially met' |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:33 PM |
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David M. Walker , Government Accountability Office is talking |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:34 PM |
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WH is measuring by "satifactoryly met" (while GAO means as NOT, Particlly or met. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:36 PM |
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HA----David says someone in the ADM. leaked the Draft. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:36 PM |
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WH gave them some new INFO so GAO changed some benchies to 'partially met" |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:38 PM |
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Thanks RodeoDance |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 01:36 PM |
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you bet. (kids need some attention at times-so I am listening with one ear) |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:40 PM |
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I understand. |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 01:47 PM |
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Unfortunately somebody leaked the report last Thursday .... |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:36 PM |
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Talking about 'divided loyalties' within the Iraqis .... |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:38 PM |
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'nother kick |
citizen_jane |
Sep-04-07 01:39 PM |
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Kerry just cut to the chase.... those marked met and partially met are 'light in impact' |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:40 PM |
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oh, it is so sweet to hear him again. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:43 PM |
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K & R |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:41 PM |
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By definition, there is no 'partially met' when measuring benchmarks... |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:43 PM |
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True. cause WH is satistactorylly-----with this you end in a swamp by what do you |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:48 PM |
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except Bush likely always got a break on meeting benchmarks |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 01:58 PM |
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Lugar(R-IND) "Do Iraqis want to be Iraqis?" |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:46 PM |
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Excellent question. Anyone who has read on any history on "Iraq", |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-04-07 01:47 PM |
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Lugar: "Do Iraqi's want to be Iraqi's?" (national loyality)-He is asking this. Good |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:47 PM |
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"15 of 37 Legislative Leaders in Iraq have checked out" |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:50 PM |
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It is clear that Legislative Leaders are not together on this issue... |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:51 PM |
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and many otheres just do not show up |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:53 PM |
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Lugar asking if it POSSIBLE for iraqi's can come to a solution (other than by the |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:50 PM |
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DAVID has it!!------WHAT is our GOAL in Iraq?????? |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:52 PM |
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David Walker says we need to decide what our role is if we stay... |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:52 PM |
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Feingold hones in on the drain of Iraq on our fight against Al Qaeda |
Blackhatjack |
Sep-04-07 01:53 PM |
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Russ Feingold up------asking about the malicias |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 01:57 PM |
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I know this is a typo |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 02:01 PM |
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you got me. funny. I think I will leave as is. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:13 PM |
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I make my fair share, or above, of typos |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 02:45 PM |
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Feingold--are there just pockets of security? |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 01:58 PM |
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Kerry back up--is it me or does he need a haircut? |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:00 PM |
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It is longer - I think it looks good. |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 02:04 PM |
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ha ha. I noticed also. but looks fine t me |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:05 PM |
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He always looks good to me, long or short.n/t |
buzzard |
Sep-04-07 02:05 PM |
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Kerry saying he was angry by what the PRES said in IRAQ yesterday--saying that |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:03 PM |
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Hagel up-- |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:05 PM |
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Hagel--How much more investment in blood should we apply? |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:07 PM |
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HO HO--another big question: given this dire report HOW much more are we |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:07 PM |
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and that came from HAGEL. says also, it is NOT WHEN but HOW, as we WILL LEAVE. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:08 PM |
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Hagel--going to have to make some difficult choices-- |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:08 PM |
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Hagel saying that WE need to come to judgement on where we go( given this report) |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:09 PM |
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Hagel--do you believe there is a functioning government in Iraq? |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:10 PM |
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Walker--significant progress not made on day to day living conditions for Iraqis-- |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:11 PM |
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Hagel asking if there is a Functioning Government? 'the gov is Dysfunctional" |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:12 PM |
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Menendez--gov gets failing grade? Walker--it's unsatisfactory |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:14 PM |
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Menendez--escalation has not met stated goals. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:15 PM |
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- and Walker agreed |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 02:17 PM |
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Here are the 18 benchmarks and how they rated, from the GAO report |
Spazito |
Sep-04-07 02:16 PM |
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Thanks! |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:17 PM |
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yes. thank you |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:27 PM |
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GAO Report on Iraqi Benchmarks Sept 4, 2007---so this is the Final one. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:28 PM |
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Dem. Bob Menendez saying WH moving goalposts-says WH does NOT care about benchmarks |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:17 PM |
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He is concerned about the Report----Draft report vs final report (there is a history of |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:18 PM |
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David says only item changed was # 9 (he got classified infor so, he needed to change.) This |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:20 PM |
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Menendez sounding a little contentious about the final report |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:18 PM |
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He suspects the WH fed him new information at the last moment. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:26 PM |
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In view of how they edited all the pre-Iraq reports |
karynnj |
Sep-04-07 02:31 PM |
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Interesting to see the diff between Senators--the "Big Picture" |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:21 PM |
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Normy Coleman--another "details" guy. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:23 PM |
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Norm Colman, R. saying Violence was reduced in AUG -Petraeus said so. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:24 PM |
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BUT--Walker said Petraeus did not give them data on that |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:26 PM |
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Colman listens to msm and Foxie TV |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:39 PM |
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God it is nice to hear Kerry's voice |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-04-07 02:25 PM |
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Walker--Iraqi gov's INTENT to deliver money/revenue doesn't mean |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:29 PM |
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Casey--emphasizing non-political/independent function of GAO |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:32 PM |
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yes, that heeds to be pointed out RE-peatedly! |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:38 PM |
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In listening to Coleman--he WILL vote with Bush. |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:33 PM |
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Yep--he was scoring Repub points |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:34 PM |
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This is an awesome thread! |
ProSense |
Sep-04-07 02:35 PM |
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Hi |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:47 PM |
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It is really great |
sandnsea |
Sep-04-07 03:27 PM |
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Casey asks about Iraqi security forces, Walker says specific info classified. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:36 PM |
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Casey--Iraqis asking for patience and time, but we're paying for that with our troops' lives. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:38 PM |
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GAO will be issueing a CLASSIFIED report Tomorrow on militias |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:40 PM |
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No law drafted regarding militias, while our men and women die. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:39 PM |
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Corker--questioning the validity of the benchmarks--of course, the GOP wants |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:41 PM |
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The benchmarks that were passed in May |
TayTay |
Sep-04-07 02:46 PM |
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Now he's saying, maybe we didn't ask the right questions--in other |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:50 PM |
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Walker--central--WHAT is the proper role of military in Iraq? |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:42 PM |
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yes. he said ealier, that this question has not been asked |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:44 PM |
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HA HA HA---Walker telling Repug that thise are set by the IRAQI gov. not made |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:42 PM |
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LOL! I heard that--Corker tried to de-legitimize the benchmarks |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:45 PM |
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Walker talking of the 'loyality' factor of Iraqi forces again (lack of). |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:49 PM |
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Walker really has a good grasp of the situation there, seems to me. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:49 PM |
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Kerry--is Anbar progress temporary, and is it transferable to Baghdad-- |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-04-07 02:52 PM |
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# 2 THREAD here: |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:55 PM |
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thanks for the REC folfks. now go to @2 and REC here: |
rodeodance |
Sep-04-07 02:57 PM |
#124 |
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