You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #7: PURPOSE of surge was to give breathing room for political reconsilation but this [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
7. PURPOSE of surge was to give breathing room for political reconsilation but this
has not happened (only 3 of 18 benchmarks are met-4th partically)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -Thread #1 New GEO report on Iraq now cspan3, Kerry, Sen. Foreign Rel. Comm. rodeodance  Sep-04-07 01:04 PM   #0 
  - Are you doing a live thread?  cali   Sep-04-07 01:05 PM   #1 
  - Kerry gavelled open  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:07 PM   #3 
     - Sen Kery's opening remarks  TayTay   Sep-04-07 01:56 PM   #60 
        - thanks  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:58 PM   #62 
  - periodically,  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:06 PM   #2 
  - "looking for the Truth, best policy for the troops, our country and Iraq.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:09 PM   #4 
     - wants 'accurate' report.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:09 PM   #5 
        - NEEDS some RECOMMENDS please  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:10 PM   #6 
           - Done, I do like listening to Kerry as I paint. n/t  buzzard   Sep-04-07 01:12 PM   #8 
  - PURPOSE of surge was to give breathing room for political reconsilation but this  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:12 PM   #7 
  - k  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:12 PM   #9 
     - 16 intellence agencies (no political 'progress')  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:13 PM   #10 
        - k  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:14 PM   #11 
           - k  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:14 PM   #12 
              - "wait until Sept" we hear. But results are on the table already  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:15 PM   #13 
                 - 'hundreds lost their lives' our troops during this surge (predicable results  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:16 PM   #14 
                    - k  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:16 PM   #15 
                       - k  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:17 PM   #16 
                          - says this is a new moment of reckoning---but Adm. only moves Goalposts  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:18 PM   #17 
  - Listening in...  citizen_jane   Sep-04-07 01:18 PM   #18 
  - welcome. I thought I was alone here ---expect the painter:-)  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:19 PM   #19 
  - Lugar up on---saying not serve US interests if insert partison assessment.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:20 PM   #20 
  - eeks. says we should not put too much emphasis on BENCHmarks.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:21 PM   #21 
     - HEY----Lugar----the Iraqi LEADERS need to LEAD!  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:21 PM   #22 
        - Lugar is talking out of both sides of his ears!  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:22 PM   #23 
        - saying these benchmarks were made by MALIKI and his gov!  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:28 PM   #26 
        - candid about our troops  Maggie_May   Sep-04-07 01:23 PM   #24 
  - Uh oh,... sounds like bad news coming for the White House  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:26 PM   #25 
  - Iraqis met 3, did not meet 11, of 18 benchmarks.... hum that does not add up  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:28 PM   #27 
  - Kerry said earlier. some were just a smitchen met  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:30 PM   #30 
  - 4 of the 18 benchmarks partially met  Spazito   Sep-04-07 02:06 PM   #72 
  - i had to leave a bit. What are you talking about?  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:29 PM   #28 
     - His overview of which benchmarks have been met (out of 18 total)  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:31 PM   #31 
        - thanks  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:39 PM   #40 
  - Just saw the thread -  karynnj   Sep-04-07 01:30 PM   #29 
  - welcome. about the report card. you can't give an A if A work is not 'there"  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:41 PM   #44 
     - It sounds like an "F" to me  karynnj   Sep-04-07 01:56 PM   #59 
  - Aahhh... those missing four benchmark grades were 'partially met'  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:33 PM   #32 
  - David M. Walker , Government Accountability Office is talking  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:34 PM   #33 
  - WH is measuring by "satifactoryly met" (while GAO means as NOT, Particlly or met.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:36 PM   #34 
     - HA----David says someone in the ADM. leaked the Draft.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:36 PM   #36 
        - WH gave them some new INFO so GAO changed some benchies to 'partially met"  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:38 PM   #37 
  - Thanks RodeoDance  TayTay   Sep-04-07 01:36 PM   # 
  - you bet. (kids need some attention at times-so I am listening with one ear)  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:40 PM   #42 
     - I understand.  TayTay   Sep-04-07 01:47 PM   #49 
  - Unfortunately somebody leaked the report last Thursday ....  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:36 PM   #35 
  - Talking about 'divided loyalties' within the Iraqis ....  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:38 PM   #38 
  - 'nother kick  citizen_jane   Sep-04-07 01:39 PM   #39 
  - Kerry just cut to the chase.... those marked met and partially met are 'light in impact'  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:40 PM   #41 
  - oh, it is so sweet to hear him again.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:43 PM   #46 
  - K & R  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:41 PM   #43 
  - By definition, there is no 'partially met' when measuring benchmarks...  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:43 PM   #45 
  - True. cause WH is satistactorylly-----with this you end in a swamp by what do you  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:48 PM   #51 
  - except Bush likely always got a break on meeting benchmarks  karynnj   Sep-04-07 01:58 PM   #64 
  - Lugar(R-IND) "Do Iraqis want to be Iraqis?"  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:46 PM   #47 
  - Excellent question. Anyone who has read on any history on "Iraq",  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-04-07 01:47 PM   #50 
  - Lugar: "Do Iraqi's want to be Iraqi's?" (national loyality)-He is asking this. Good  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:47 PM   #48 
  - "15 of 37 Legislative Leaders in Iraq have checked out"  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:50 PM   #52 
  - It is clear that Legislative Leaders are not together on this issue...  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:51 PM   #54 
  - and many otheres just do not show up  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:53 PM   #57 
  - Lugar asking if it POSSIBLE for iraqi's can come to a solution (other than by the  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:50 PM   #53 
  - DAVID has it!!------WHAT is our GOAL in Iraq??????  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:52 PM   #55 
  - David Walker says we need to decide what our role is if we stay...  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:52 PM   #56 
  - Feingold hones in on the drain of Iraq on our fight against Al Qaeda  Blackhatjack   Sep-04-07 01:53 PM   #58 
  - Russ Feingold up------asking about the malicias  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 01:57 PM   #61 
  - I know this is a typo  TayTay   Sep-04-07 02:01 PM   #66 
     - you got me. funny. I think I will leave as is.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:13 PM   #81 
        - I make my fair share, or above, of typos  TayTay   Sep-04-07 02:45 PM   #116 
  - Feingold--are there just pockets of security?  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 01:58 PM   #63 
  - Kerry back up--is it me or does he need a haircut?  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:00 PM   #65 
  - It is longer - I think it looks good.  karynnj   Sep-04-07 02:04 PM   #68 
  - ha ha. I noticed also. but looks fine t me  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:05 PM   #69 
  - He always looks good to me, long or short.n/t  buzzard   Sep-04-07 02:05 PM   #71 
  - Kerry saying he was angry by what the PRES said in IRAQ yesterday--saying that  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:03 PM   #67 
  - Hagel up--  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:05 PM   #70 
  - Hagel--How much more investment in blood should we apply?  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:07 PM   #73 
  - HO HO--another big question: given this dire report HOW much more are we  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:07 PM   #74 
  - and that came from HAGEL. says also, it is NOT WHEN but HOW, as we WILL LEAVE.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:08 PM   #75 
  - Hagel--going to have to make some difficult choices--  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:08 PM   #76 
  - Hagel saying that WE need to come to judgement on where we go( given this report)  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:09 PM   #77 
  - Hagel--do you believe there is a functioning government in Iraq?  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:10 PM   #78 
  - Walker--significant progress not made on day to day living conditions for Iraqis--  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:11 PM   #79 
  - Hagel asking if there is a Functioning Government? 'the gov is Dysfunctional"  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:12 PM   #80 
  - Menendez--gov gets failing grade? Walker--it's unsatisfactory  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:14 PM   #82 
  - Menendez--escalation has not met stated goals.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:15 PM   #83 
  - - and Walker agreed  karynnj   Sep-04-07 02:17 PM   #87 
  - Here are the 18 benchmarks and how they rated, from the GAO report  Spazito   Sep-04-07 02:16 PM   #84 
  - Thanks!  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:17 PM   #86 
  - yes. thank you  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:27 PM   #97 
     - GAO Report on Iraqi Benchmarks Sept 4, 2007---so this is the Final one.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:28 PM   #98 
  - Dem. Bob Menendez saying WH moving goalposts-says WH does NOT care about benchmarks  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:17 PM   #85 
  - He is concerned about the Report----Draft report vs final report (there is a history of  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:18 PM   #88 
  - David says only item changed was # 9 (he got classified infor so, he needed to change.) This  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:20 PM   #90 
  - Menendez sounding a little contentious about the final report  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:18 PM   #89 
  - He suspects the WH fed him new information at the last moment.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:26 PM   #95 
     - In view of how they edited all the pre-Iraq reports  karynnj   Sep-04-07 02:31 PM   #100 
  - Interesting to see the diff between Senators--the "Big Picture"  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:21 PM   #91 
  - Normy Coleman--another "details" guy.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:23 PM   #92 
  - Norm Colman, R. saying Violence was reduced in AUG -Petraeus said so.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:24 PM   #93 
  - BUT--Walker said Petraeus did not give them data on that  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:26 PM   #96 
     - Colman listens to msm and Foxie TV  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:39 PM   #108 
  - God it is nice to hear Kerry's voice  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-04-07 02:25 PM   #94 
  - Walker--Iraqi gov's INTENT to deliver money/revenue doesn't mean  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:29 PM   #99 
  - Casey--emphasizing non-political/independent function of GAO  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:32 PM   #101 
  - yes, that heeds to be pointed out RE-peatedly!  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:38 PM   #106 
  - In listening to Coleman--he WILL vote with Bush.  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:33 PM   #102 
  - Yep--he was scoring Repub points  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:34 PM   #103 
  - This is an awesome thread!  ProSense   Sep-04-07 02:35 PM   #104 
  - Hi  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:47 PM   #118 
  - It is really great  sandnsea   Sep-04-07 03:27 PM   #125 
  - Casey asks about Iraqi security forces, Walker says specific info classified.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:36 PM   #105 
  - Casey--Iraqis asking for patience and time, but we're paying for that with our troops' lives.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:38 PM   #107 
  - GAO will be issueing a CLASSIFIED report Tomorrow on militias  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:40 PM   #110 
  - No law drafted regarding militias, while our men and women die.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:39 PM   #109 
  - Corker--questioning the validity of the benchmarks--of course, the GOP wants  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:41 PM   #111 
  - The benchmarks that were passed in May  TayTay   Sep-04-07 02:46 PM   #117 
     - Now he's saying, maybe we didn't ask the right questions--in other  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:50 PM   #121 
  - Walker--central--WHAT is the proper role of military in Iraq?  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:42 PM   #112 
  - yes. he said ealier, that this question has not been asked  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:44 PM   #114 
  - HA HA HA---Walker telling Repug that thise are set by the IRAQI gov. not made  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:42 PM   #113 
  - LOL! I heard that--Corker tried to de-legitimize the benchmarks  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:45 PM   #115 
  - Walker talking of the 'loyality' factor of Iraqi forces again (lack of).  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:49 PM   #119 
  - Walker really has a good grasp of the situation there, seems to me.  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:49 PM   #120 
  - Kerry--is Anbar progress temporary, and is it transferable to Baghdad--  wienerdoggie   Sep-04-07 02:52 PM   #122 
  - # 2 THREAD here:  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:55 PM   #123 
  - thanks for the REC folfks. now go to @2 and REC here:  rodeodance   Sep-04-07 02:57 PM   #124 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC