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Sun Sep-02-07 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #60 |
| 62. It's not really something to "agree with" |
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My reaction isn't up for debate, any more than yours is. I think it makes more sense to acknowledge that we have different reactions, than to say you "don't agree" with my reaction.
When women find out they have been surveilled, with cameras zooming in on their asses or breasts, often they're upset and feel violated. Even IF they were walking around in public. I wish men could accept that instead of denying it.
There's a difference in viewpoint in general I think (that part can be up for debate, but yours and my reaction follow what the pattern I'm claiming, for what it's worth) where women feel it's an invasion of privacy and offensive, and men feel it's their right to do it.
It's sort of like going under anesthesia for an operation. Women want to know they aren't being groped - even if they are unconscious and not injured in the process, and would not find out. "None the wiser" isn't the standard for women, but it does seem to be the male standard for testing whether behavior is considered acceptable and polite.
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| -Here's a question I've wondered about for years regarding public toilets. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 07:55 PM |
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Money. |
NC_Nurse |
Sep-02-07 07:57 PM |
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But in Europe they're everywhere. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 07:58 PM |
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So is free healthcare and college. |
Katherine Brengle |
Sep-02-07 09:23 PM |
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Era of the Restroom Attendent should be brought back... |
hlthe2b |
Sep-02-07 07:58 PM |
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Except that they usually charge. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:00 PM |
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Psst. "Genteel" |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-02-07 08:22 PM |
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That was an unfortunate misspell, wasn't it....LOL. |
hlthe2b |
Sep-02-07 08:26 PM |
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I agree. I don't think people would be nearly as disgusting as they are in public restrooms |
Katherine Brengle |
Sep-02-07 09:24 PM |
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It will never come back to any extent... |
hlthe2b |
Sep-02-07 09:46 PM |
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Ugh... |
sanguinivorous |
Sep-02-07 11:29 PM |
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Actually, I think it has to do with sanitizing. In SOME public facilities, |
napi21 |
Sep-02-07 07:59 PM |
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True. It DOES make it easier to sanitize the place. |
Buns_of_Fire |
Sep-02-07 08:25 PM |
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They don't enclose them because that would encourage anonymous sex |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-02-07 08:00 PM |
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Europe still had unisex lavatories last time I was there, too. |
TahitiNut |
Sep-02-07 08:00 PM |
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Unisex bathroom is all US needs for the full happiness. |
lizzy |
Sep-02-07 08:07 PM |
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I have a problem with it |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 08:09 PM |
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I would have a problem with unisex toilets |
lizzy |
Sep-02-07 08:12 PM |
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I don't care where they tap their feet. |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 08:57 PM |
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I Think Your Safe. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 08:26 PM |
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I look at it this way: |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 08:55 PM |
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And Potential Criminals Are Not Criminals. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 09:44 PM |
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Can you go back and look at the post I was responding to initially? |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 09:52 PM |
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Ah. No Wonder We Weren't Getting Anywhere. My Bad. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 10:11 PM |
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Well, there you go |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 10:17 PM |
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I Don't See How Women Are Being Treated Unfairly In That Situation. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 10:28 PM |
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Well you wouldn't go right up to a stranger on the street, |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 10:33 PM |
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The Difference is the Intrusion. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 10:42 PM |
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Okay, stay with me here |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 10:49 PM |
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I'd Imagine He'd Be Pissed (I Myself Would Be Flattered) |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 10:56 PM |
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That intrusiveness is how women feel |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 11:07 PM |
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Nope, Can't Agree. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 11:30 PM |
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It's not really something to "agree with" |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 11:54 PM |
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I Meant the Definition of Spying. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-03-07 12:32 AM |
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You said you were pissed |
lwfern |
Sep-03-07 12:44 AM |
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I WAS Pissed. I Got Over It.. Now, It's Just an Amusing Story to Share. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-03-07 12:52 AM |
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Did you see the polls I posted a while ago related to that? |
lwfern |
Sep-03-07 01:05 AM |
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Those Polls Predate Me. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-03-07 01:45 AM |
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"famous survey?" |
depakid |
Sep-02-07 11:02 PM |
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For those who don't feel like googling |
lwfern |
Sep-03-07 12:41 AM |
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From an issue of Ms. Magazine? |
depakid |
Sep-03-07 12:58 AM |
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Well, the fact of the matter is .... |
TahitiNut |
Sep-02-07 09:33 PM |
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In the 21st Century there is no such thing as total privacy |
whistle |
Sep-02-07 08:01 PM |
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In some of the new restaurants here, they have what you describe... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Sep-02-07 08:03 PM |
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Some department stores have them as well |
dflprincess |
Sep-02-07 08:14 PM |
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The alter of greed ,is a bigger need than privacy. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-02-07 08:04 PM |
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You mean for guys pissing? Urinals seem like enough privacy to me. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-02-07 08:13 PM |
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Well, being a woman, I don't do urinals. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:15 PM |
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oops (blush) |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-02-07 08:17 PM |
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No problem, you couldn't have known! |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:24 PM |
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Such stalls are just really cheap hotel rooms |
cgrindley |
Sep-02-07 08:19 PM |
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So you think stalls are exposed a bit to keep out the homeless? |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:23 PM |
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Well, it's certainly one of many good reasons |
cgrindley |
Sep-03-07 08:41 AM |
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Other. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 08:19 PM |
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What I'm talking about is not sexual behavior. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:28 PM |
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How Much More Privacy Could You Want? |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 08:42 PM |
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Whatever friend. |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:46 PM |
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Seriously, No Offense. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-02-07 08:55 PM |
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I'm a 50 yr old SWM |
qdemn7 |
Sep-02-07 10:30 PM |
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Where in the world do you live? All the women's bathroom stalls |
trudyco |
Sep-02-07 08:33 PM |
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No, where do you live? I have yet to see a completely enclosed |
lizzy |
Sep-02-07 08:34 PM |
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I didn't make the claim, but perhaps the poster is referring to the fact that... |
JVS |
Sep-03-07 01:58 AM |
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You've been in both men's and women's stalls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
MyPetRock |
Sep-02-07 08:35 PM |
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Huh? there is space above and below the dividers in most women's bathrooms. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-02-07 09:23 PM |
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It's a SAFETY issue. |
garybeck |
Sep-02-07 08:48 PM |
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That's fine for a foot gap |
lwfern |
Sep-02-07 09:02 PM |
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Yeah... |
high density |
Sep-02-07 10:20 PM |
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There actually is a standard minimum gap that is required... n/t |
garybeck |
Sep-03-07 02:15 AM |
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And on the flip side... |
Withywindle |
Sep-02-07 11:39 PM |
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Because Halliburton doesn't have the contract yet!!1 n/t |
UTUSN |
Sep-02-07 08:57 PM |
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It helps air circulation. nt |
MookieWilson |
Sep-02-07 09:22 PM |
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I could only imagine the smell of opening the door to a toilet that is totally enclosed. Yuck! n/t |
MiltonF |
Sep-02-07 09:37 PM |
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The only places I find totally enclosed bathrooms are in expensive restaurants and hotels/resorts. |
AZBlue |
Sep-02-07 09:47 PM |
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if stalls are sealed off top to bottom who are you gonna ask to hand |
orleans |
Sep-03-07 02:53 AM |
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They should cause for one thing for women |
Raine |
Sep-03-07 02:56 AM |
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