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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. His behavior
when speaking to the police officer indicate a person who was consciously attempting to manipulate the discussion. I think he has continued to try to manipulate the episode.
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  -Your Opinion, Please! H2O Man  Aug-31-07 02:48 PM   #0 
  - You give the court something it wants?  berni_mccoy   Aug-31-07 02:50 PM   #1 
  - What you give  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 02:51 PM   #2 
     - Aha--we do seem to be thinking on the same wavelength (see below). nt  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 02:52 PM   #4 
     - The prosecutor...  berni_mccoy   Aug-31-07 02:53 PM   #6 
        - It's routine.  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 02:54 PM   #7 
           - Ah, I wasn't certain if this was about Craig or not  berni_mccoy   Aug-31-07 02:56 PM   #8 
           - The record of the June 22 visit  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:22 PM   #32 
              - Eggsactly!  Major Hogwash   Aug-31-07 05:25 PM   #48 
                 - His behavior  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:31 PM   #53 
           - Can we discuss the seemingly boneheaded decision not to get a lawyer?  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 02:58 PM   #9 
           - Well,  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 03:54 PM   #19 
           - The "other details" aspect is very interesting. Like the Rethugs  texpatriot2004   Sep-02-07 02:41 PM   #109 
           - Not the DA--the DOJ gave him a lawyer  librechik   Sep-02-07 12:28 PM   #105 
           - Not necessarily.  smoogatz   Sep-01-07 09:35 AM   #80 
              - And thus  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 10:14 AM   #82 
  - A third hand? I mean, if you are talking about what I'm pretty damn certain you are  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 02:52 PM   #3 
  - If you have three  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 02:53 PM   #5 
     - I don't think  warrior1   Aug-31-07 02:58 PM   #10 
     - for traffic tickets?  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 03:00 PM   #11 
        - Though I can't speak  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 03:56 PM   #20 
           - Here in my city it's through an assistant DA who fields for the judge. n/t  Emit   Aug-31-07 05:38 PM   #55 
  - Clarification, please--would the LC case have been referred to the DA or not?  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 03:04 PM   #12 
  - Here's the complaint - referred by the cop to the city attorney >  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 03:14 PM   #14 
     - Right.  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 03:57 PM   #21 
  - Just a note on this.  Jim__   Aug-31-07 03:08 PM   #13 
  - The complaint lists two offenses.  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 03:17 PM   #15 
  - Thanks - n/t  Jim__   Aug-31-07 03:24 PM   #18 
  - That's not  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 03:59 PM   #23 
     - So he got one of the charges dropped.  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:38 PM   #38 
  - You must contact the prosecutor or town attorney.  Lone_Star_Dem   Aug-31-07 03:18 PM   #16 
  - Thank you.  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:00 PM   #24 
     - I still don't get it!  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:42 PM   #40 
     - It appears  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:45 PM   #41 
     - Thanks H2O Man, here I thought they used NSA stuff to "urge" him to resign.  mod mom   Sep-01-07 07:11 AM   #75 
  - So he bargained with the prosecutor...  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 03:23 PM   #17 
  - Either he did,  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:01 PM   #25 
     - well he clearly had an attorney  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:12 PM   #28 
     - Are you implying that "I DA HO" wasn't nessecarily a state in this case?  hootinholler   Aug-31-07 04:12 PM   #29 
     - No.  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:22 PM   #31 
     - well at that point the cop is the complainant but the prosecution is by the city atty  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:23 PM   #33 
        - Read the 6-22 report  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:25 PM   #34 
           - yes, he says he needs contact info for his attorneys  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:34 PM   #36 
           - and here's Karsnia's report on that incident >  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 04:36 PM   #37 
           - I think the senator  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:49 PM   #42 
              - Somehow his "rejection" of legal counsel just sounds too boneheaded to be believed.  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 06:38 PM   #64 
                 - He seems to  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 06:41 PM   #66 
           - Hmmm, Detective Karsnia edits the entry 4 days later?  hootinholler   Aug-31-07 04:41 PM   #39 
              - He appears  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:22 PM   #47 
           - Little did I know that day that the State of Minnesota was giving me ...  TahitiNut   Aug-31-07 06:41 PM   #67 
     - The plea agreement states that he is NOT represented by an attorney.  PA Democrat   Aug-31-07 05:57 PM   #60 
  - A plea must be copped in open court on the damn record. But then  lonestarnot   Aug-31-07 03:57 PM   #22 
  - kick for enlightenment  spanone   Aug-31-07 04:05 PM   #26 
  - um, well, isn't entering a plea in such a manner, almost regardless of time-line...  bridgit   Aug-31-07 04:07 PM   #27 
  - I believe that  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:20 PM   #30 
     - no doubt he had/has an issue with several moving parts that would've been better...  bridgit   Aug-31-07 04:32 PM   #35 
  - What?  BeFree   Aug-31-07 04:52 PM   #43 
  - I think the  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 04:54 PM   #44 
  - I was just about to post a similar statement.  blondeatlast   Aug-31-07 06:43 PM   #69 
  - K&R.  Rockholm   Aug-31-07 05:02 PM   #45 
  - Thanks.  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:05 PM   #46 
  - Hey I know it's a derail from this thread and was probably mentioned in one of the billion others,  Mayberry Machiavelli   Aug-31-07 05:26 PM   #49 
  - I think that is  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:28 PM   #51 
  - It was reportedly an anonymous tip to Congressional Quarterly.  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 05:49 PM   #58 
     - It's interesting that CQ got the tip, isn't it?  Stephanie   Sep-01-07 09:36 AM   #81 
  - MSNBC's David Shuster  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:26 PM   #50 
  - Send the ticket in with your money.  notadmblnd   Aug-31-07 05:29 PM   #52 
  - Or if you  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:33 PM   #54 
     - last time I went to court for a ticket, I spoke with the officer  notadmblnd   Aug-31-07 05:46 PM   #56 
        - That's nice. n/t  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 05:47 PM   #57 
  - Assessment of guilt & consequences, whether on you own or with the advice of counsel.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Aug-31-07 05:56 PM   #59 
  - Yes but who made that negotiation?  Stephanie   Aug-31-07 06:12 PM   #61 
     - Keep in mind  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 06:36 PM   #63 
     - Ya gonna make me hunt up the name of the city attorney  havocmom   Aug-31-07 07:06 PM   #72 
        - Actually the prosecuting attorney for the Airport Commission is in private practice.  Garbo 2004   Sep-01-07 06:39 PM   #96 
     - HE initiated all of it and HE made a 'weighed' decision. HE is responsible.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Aug-31-07 06:39 PM   #65 
        - Otherwise  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 06:42 PM   #68 
  - My Money Says Norm Coleman Is Involved  Binka   Aug-31-07 06:29 PM   #62 
  - It's interesting  H2O Man   Aug-31-07 06:51 PM   #70 
     - Mitch McConnell was among the first.  Garbo 2004   Sep-01-07 02:51 PM   #89 
  - Yep, another step and other people involved  havocmom   Aug-31-07 06:56 PM   #71 
  - "....he is a victim  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 06:19 AM   #74 
  - I think he should have..  stillcool47   Aug-31-07 07:23 PM   #73 
  - I've seen a lot worse  formercia   Sep-01-07 07:45 AM   #76 
  - Sure.  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 08:05 AM   #77 
     - The boys like people with 'flaws'  formercia   Sep-01-07 08:20 AM   #78 
        - Exactly.  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 10:15 AM   #83 
        - That's why Hoover kept dossiers on any one of importance.  formercia   Sep-01-07 12:33 PM   #84 
        - Ever think McCain got of awfully easy in the Keating Five mess?  havocmom   Sep-02-07 12:30 AM   #100 
           - A little bit of public groveling goes a long way.  formercia   Sep-02-07 12:11 PM   #102 
  - Interesting thread  DemReadingDU   Sep-01-07 09:27 AM   #79 
  - Midmorning kick. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-01-07 01:32 PM   #85 
  - Since he was a rancher, according to Wiki, he surely would have needed legal counsel  eleny   Sep-01-07 01:39 PM   #86 
  - K & R for deeper waters.  byronius   Sep-01-07 02:03 PM   #87 
  - K&R While listening to the interrogation tapes I was impressed  snappyturtle   Sep-01-07 02:49 PM   #88 
  - His behavior  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 05:05 PM   #94 
  - Here's an interesting detail:  bleever   Sep-01-07 02:57 PM   #90 
  - It is important  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 03:50 PM   #93 
  - It wasn't filled in by hand  formercia   Sep-02-07 12:13 PM   #103 
  - Yes, Craig made it sound like he plead out ASAP in some sort of confused fog. But he plead 2 months  Garbo 2004   Sep-01-07 03:04 PM   #91 
  - I've been around  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 03:49 PM   #92 
  - Fox News  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 05:38 PM   #95 
  - Prosecutors overcharge  treestar   Sep-01-07 08:39 PM   #97 
  - While some may  H2O Man   Sep-01-07 08:44 PM   #99 
  - I figured it out:  bleever   Sep-01-07 08:41 PM   #98 
  - K & R  TacticalPeek   Sep-02-07 11:38 AM   #101 
  - I've Read This Thread And Am Perplexed By The Tone That There's Something Dramatic Or Important Here  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Sep-02-07 12:24 PM   #104 
  - I've been reading the interesting comments here and I don't think my impressions have changed.  Tatiana   Sep-02-07 12:35 PM   #106 
     - Perhaps they're trying to make a scarecrow out of him  formercia   Sep-02-07 01:08 PM   #107 
        - Oh, yeah. Cheney is getting boxed into a corner. Lots of shit about to come into light  havocmom   Sep-02-07 01:41 PM   #108 
 

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