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Tue Aug-28-07 05:54 PM
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| 47. Why? A lifetime of miseducation. |
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How? It can't be by anyone who has the critical thinking tools to view it.
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| -Why are people still joining the military? |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:08 PM |
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You're right.... |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 04:11 PM |
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When did you join? |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:12 PM |
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1985, |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:38 PM |
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They Asked a Question...Jeez... |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:07 PM |
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It is a question. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 06:36 PM |
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Thank you |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:38 PM |
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Yup, he/she asked a question |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:36 PM |
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You may step out of the way now. |
rug |
Aug-28-07 10:11 PM |
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As time grows shorter, |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:31 PM |
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Thanks , Sailor |
StephenB48 |
Aug-30-07 09:19 AM |
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MURDERING Iraqis Is Not Honorable |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 10:21 PM |
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In every conflict |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:28 PM |
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Means LESS than nothing to me |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 10:59 PM |
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Well, there you go |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 11:03 PM |
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they think the Iraq occupation is immoral and that we are killing Iraqis. |
uppityperson |
Aug-29-07 12:27 AM |
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I think you're responding to me... |
sailor65 |
Aug-29-07 10:44 PM |
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Well uh... |
Madspirit |
Aug-29-07 12:35 PM |
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Whether his brother or father is a murderer depends upon the conflict they fought in, |
The Stranger |
Aug-30-07 09:13 AM |
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It isn't alot of people |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:04 AM |
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Welcome to DU Sailor |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:01 AM |
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Good catch |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:40 PM |
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Thank you for serving. I love you for it....and so do my kids...nt |
Colorado Progressive |
Aug-28-07 11:04 PM |
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You're very welcome |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 11:14 PM |
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That is what my life is about anymore.... |
Colorado Progressive |
Aug-29-07 12:19 AM |
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I Was In the Navy From '82 to '87. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-28-07 06:15 PM |
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It has nothing to do with superiority |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:45 PM |
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Actually, I Owe You an Apology. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-29-07 01:20 PM |
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Are you setting yourself up as superior to the citizens of the US? |
treestar |
Aug-29-07 09:22 AM |
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I'm sorry if my posts appeared that way to you |
sailor65 |
Aug-29-07 10:53 PM |
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I did not read that in his post at all |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:06 AM |
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money...20,000 to sign up |
spanone |
Aug-28-07 04:13 PM |
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Yup, saw that on msnbc.com yesterday. $20K if you go immediately. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 04:59 PM |
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20K is nothing in the current market, but sound like a lot to a broke kid. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:47 PM |
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Exactly. They know who they are targeting. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 07:28 PM |
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More than sickening OUTFUCKINGRAGEOUS! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 07:50 PM |
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Not worth the gamble becoming |
zidzi |
Aug-28-07 09:44 PM |
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But that's because you have choices in life. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 10:42 PM |
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I don't have |
zidzi |
Aug-30-07 09:06 AM |
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2 things |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 04:13 PM |
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My 19-year-old niece is considering joining the USAF |
DeposeTheBoyKing |
Aug-28-07 04:15 PM |
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These clowns will not be around forever |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:57 PM |
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why |
DangerDave921 |
Aug-28-07 04:17 PM |
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Offhand I'd say poverty and lack of hope |
catmandu57 |
Aug-28-07 04:28 PM |
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Personally I blame the corrupt corporate controlled government |
Middle finga |
Aug-28-07 04:32 PM |
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I know several parents who have been encouraging their kids to join |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-28-07 04:49 PM |
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Sanctimonious sacrificers. Pat themselves on the back for "doing their duty." |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 04:52 PM |
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Not true! |
rene moon |
Aug-28-07 05:27 PM |
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A Military Career is an incredibly admirable one |
BOSSHOG |
Aug-28-07 04:52 PM |
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Under a bushitler, I'd rather my kid slit his wrists or put his feet under a neighboring stall. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 04:53 PM |
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I guess what I am asking is why people are not holding off until 2009 |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:58 PM |
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Maybe 60 years ago |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 05:02 PM |
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and soon Iran. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:16 PM |
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Yes, it is, Bosshog--thank you for saying so. I am proud of my husband, who |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 05:32 PM |
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Well, in a nutshell ... |
lpbk2713 |
Aug-28-07 05:46 PM |
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You can see how much agreement you got with your statement |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-28-07 06:07 PM |
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Like Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. I actually thought everyone had that one figured out by now |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:48 PM |
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Like a kid figures all that out when he wants to serve and protect |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-29-07 02:34 PM |
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like where are the parents? Don't they love their kids? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 02:39 PM |
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What a question |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-29-07 02:47 PM |
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Yes and yes. And I know without a doubt, he will not be wasting his |
lonestarnot |
Aug-30-07 09:10 AM |
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Ignorance |
stirlingsliver |
Aug-28-07 04:55 PM |
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There are those who really want the chance to kill without |
treestar |
Aug-28-07 04:55 PM |
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Yep human trophy killers, kids women old people, doesn't matter. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:17 PM |
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People join the military for a variety of reasons |
rene moon |
Aug-28-07 04:57 PM |
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Fear, xenophobia, ignorance, racism, hostility, violence...macho America...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:08 PM |
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I have a friend who joined. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:13 PM |
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Hope he makes it. Tell him to try a student loan next time. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:18 PM |
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Thank you. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:24 PM |
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There are better wasys to care for your child than to make others into orphans |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 05:20 PM |
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Oh, snark. Nice. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:23 PM |
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Exactly!! Thank-you. This totally discounts the IRAQIS... |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:27 PM |
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Do you really believe... |
India3 |
Aug-28-07 08:57 PM |
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What a nasty remark |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:08 AM |
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I Know This Will Sound Mean |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:26 PM |
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Madspirit, |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:31 PM |
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I Understand |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:37 PM |
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As the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. n/t |
Solon |
Aug-28-07 05:46 PM |
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I Also Just PMed You With An Apology...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 06:08 PM |
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Walked away from the pc for a few minutes, |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 06:13 PM |
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I've known quite a few people that joined the military |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:19 PM |
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How Does It Serve The Country To Murder Iraqis? Just Wondering...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:28 PM |
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Only one has gone to Iraq |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:31 PM |
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Anyone who joins now is serving at the whim of a bushitler. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:34 PM |
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Most likely they have wanted to serve their country their whole life. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 06:16 PM |
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Were soldiers who served in World War II |
NeedleCast |
Aug-29-07 12:54 PM |
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Fighting a fucking war of lies is not serving our fucking country! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:28 PM |
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Thank you for you well reasoned and though out reply |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:32 PM |
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Your fucking welcome. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:33 PM |
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Aug-28-07 08:52 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-28-07 09:39 PM |
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Bigoted? WTF are you talking about. Bigoted hmmmmf. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 11:07 PM |
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Aug-29-07 12:27 PM |
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They do not get to choose their missions. Disagree with Chimpy and his war, but |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 05:39 PM |
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Agreed |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:40 PM |
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In this case, truth hurts severely. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:41 PM |
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Which is more patriotic? Invading someone else's home, or defending your own home? n/t |
Solon |
Aug-28-07 05:54 PM |
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Wow, you're seriously dead wrong on a few things. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-07 09:59 PM |
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You didn't choose, and I didn't choose, what we face right now-- |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 10:09 PM |
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YESSS! |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:34 PM |
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You seem like a rational, level-headed, even-keel kinda person. |
Squatch |
Aug-28-07 07:05 PM |
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If you are talking to me you are wasting your time. I'm beyond bullshit on this fucking war. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 07:52 PM |
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Why? A lifetime of miseducation. |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 05:54 PM |
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Jebus, that is a condescending post. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 06:47 PM |
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If Americans were properly educated |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 07:04 PM |
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If must be comforting to be so much smarter than every member of the military. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 07:16 PM |
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Wait for it |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 07:31 PM |
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You must be mistaken. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 07:44 PM |
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Well according to some on DU |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 07:47 PM |
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Some of them are |
treestar |
Aug-29-07 09:30 AM |
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The fact that |
proffate |
Aug-28-07 08:42 PM |
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Thank you! I haven't read through all the comments yet, but I just wanted to chime in here and |
scarletwoman |
Aug-28-07 09:16 PM |
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I enlisted right after the first Iraq war. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 06:11 PM |
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How old were you then? |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 07:15 PM |
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Like most men who enter the service 18. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 09:37 PM |
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Some do it out of duty, most do it for economic reasons |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-28-07 07:30 PM |
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If you have to ask the question ...................... |
oldhippie |
Aug-28-07 08:32 PM |
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I don't want to say it's old fashioned stupidity. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-28-07 08:34 PM |
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Yup. All of them are stupid. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 09:24 PM |
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If there is one, I'd like to hear it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-29-07 10:42 AM |
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Oh great, here comes military expert Bornagin looking for an argument... |
India3 |
Aug-29-07 12:31 PM |
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Are you a warmonger? Is that what you're trying to tell us? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:50 PM |
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No. But I don't beleive people enlisting in the military are "stupid" either. |
India3 |
Aug-29-07 03:44 PM |
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Well thank you. I was an enlisted puke for 6 years and I was stupid |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 05:14 PM |
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Whatever they THINK they're doing |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-28-07 09:19 PM |
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Wonder how that private recruiting is working out.....LOL |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 09:41 PM |
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Maybe because people here keep saying "Why don't they join the military if they support Bush?" |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-28-07 11:00 PM |
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Because of a perceived lack of choices. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-28-07 11:08 PM |
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So that they can be YOUR hero if there is a national disaster where you would NEED their HELP.. |
ruiner4u |
Aug-29-07 12:29 AM |
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Firefighters, EMS and aid workers can help during disasters as well |
wuushew |
Aug-29-07 09:35 AM |
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Average pay for a new enlistee is $17,400/year...... |
Mind_your_head |
Aug-29-07 12:38 AM |
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The young are impressionable. Many young men are eschewing college anyway, for technical schools. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-29-07 09:35 AM |
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Their parents should be watching out for them with the opt out box! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:51 PM |
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Even Casey Sheehan reenlisted AFTER the war in Iraq started |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-29-07 12:59 PM |
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He didn't want to leave his friends in the lurch. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:17 PM |
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I've never understood it either. |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Aug-29-07 01:01 PM |
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They offered a $20,000 signing bonus a few mths ago - a bunch of people signed up |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Aug-29-07 01:20 PM |
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Other than the secret decoder ring I can't think of a reason. nt |
Javaman |
Aug-29-07 01:41 PM |
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Money, college, benefits |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 09:56 AM |
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Locking |
The Magistrate |
Aug-30-07 11:07 AM |
#139 |
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