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Tue Aug-28-07 04:32 PM
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| 8. Personally I blame the corrupt corporate controlled government |
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and media of ours. They're bribing these young impressionable kids with blood money. I have to admit when I was 18, I wasn't paying attention to what was going on in the world, If it wasn't happening in my neighborhood I wasn't concerned about it. You got the media suppressing what's really going on over in Iraq, you got school teachers afraid to be critical of the war because some right winger will accuse them of being an anti american leftist. Unless you dig for information you wont get the true picture of what's really going on in Iraq. So half of those young guys and gals probably don't have a clue of what their getting themselves into until it's too late.
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| -Why are people still joining the military? |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:08 PM |
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You're right.... |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 04:11 PM |
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When did you join? |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:12 PM |
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1985, |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:38 PM |
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They Asked a Question...Jeez... |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:07 PM |
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It is a question. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 06:36 PM |
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Thank you |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:38 PM |
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Yup, he/she asked a question |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:36 PM |
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You may step out of the way now. |
rug |
Aug-28-07 10:11 PM |
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As time grows shorter, |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:31 PM |
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Thanks , Sailor |
StephenB48 |
Aug-30-07 09:19 AM |
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MURDERING Iraqis Is Not Honorable |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 10:21 PM |
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In every conflict |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:28 PM |
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Means LESS than nothing to me |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 10:59 PM |
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Well, there you go |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 11:03 PM |
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they think the Iraq occupation is immoral and that we are killing Iraqis. |
uppityperson |
Aug-29-07 12:27 AM |
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I think you're responding to me... |
sailor65 |
Aug-29-07 10:44 PM |
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Well uh... |
Madspirit |
Aug-29-07 12:35 PM |
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Whether his brother or father is a murderer depends upon the conflict they fought in, |
The Stranger |
Aug-30-07 09:13 AM |
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It isn't alot of people |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:04 AM |
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Welcome to DU Sailor |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:01 AM |
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Good catch |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:40 PM |
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Thank you for serving. I love you for it....and so do my kids...nt |
Colorado Progressive |
Aug-28-07 11:04 PM |
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You're very welcome |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 11:14 PM |
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That is what my life is about anymore.... |
Colorado Progressive |
Aug-29-07 12:19 AM |
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I Was In the Navy From '82 to '87. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-28-07 06:15 PM |
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It has nothing to do with superiority |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:45 PM |
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Actually, I Owe You an Apology. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-29-07 01:20 PM |
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Are you setting yourself up as superior to the citizens of the US? |
treestar |
Aug-29-07 09:22 AM |
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I'm sorry if my posts appeared that way to you |
sailor65 |
Aug-29-07 10:53 PM |
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I did not read that in his post at all |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:06 AM |
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money...20,000 to sign up |
spanone |
Aug-28-07 04:13 PM |
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Yup, saw that on msnbc.com yesterday. $20K if you go immediately. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 04:59 PM |
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20K is nothing in the current market, but sound like a lot to a broke kid. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:47 PM |
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Exactly. They know who they are targeting. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 07:28 PM |
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More than sickening OUTFUCKINGRAGEOUS! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 07:50 PM |
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Not worth the gamble becoming |
zidzi |
Aug-28-07 09:44 PM |
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But that's because you have choices in life. |
AZBlue |
Aug-28-07 10:42 PM |
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I don't have |
zidzi |
Aug-30-07 09:06 AM |
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2 things |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 04:13 PM |
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My 19-year-old niece is considering joining the USAF |
DeposeTheBoyKing |
Aug-28-07 04:15 PM |
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These clowns will not be around forever |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 09:57 PM |
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why |
DangerDave921 |
Aug-28-07 04:17 PM |
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Offhand I'd say poverty and lack of hope |
catmandu57 |
Aug-28-07 04:28 PM |
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Personally I blame the corrupt corporate controlled government |
Middle finga |
Aug-28-07 04:32 PM |
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I know several parents who have been encouraging their kids to join |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-28-07 04:49 PM |
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Sanctimonious sacrificers. Pat themselves on the back for "doing their duty." |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 04:52 PM |
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Not true! |
rene moon |
Aug-28-07 05:27 PM |
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A Military Career is an incredibly admirable one |
BOSSHOG |
Aug-28-07 04:52 PM |
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Under a bushitler, I'd rather my kid slit his wrists or put his feet under a neighboring stall. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 04:53 PM |
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I guess what I am asking is why people are not holding off until 2009 |
wuushew |
Aug-28-07 04:58 PM |
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Maybe 60 years ago |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 05:02 PM |
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and soon Iran. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:16 PM |
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Yes, it is, Bosshog--thank you for saying so. I am proud of my husband, who |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 05:32 PM |
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Well, in a nutshell ... |
lpbk2713 |
Aug-28-07 05:46 PM |
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You can see how much agreement you got with your statement |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-28-07 06:07 PM |
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Like Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. I actually thought everyone had that one figured out by now |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:48 PM |
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Like a kid figures all that out when he wants to serve and protect |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-29-07 02:34 PM |
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like where are the parents? Don't they love their kids? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 02:39 PM |
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What a question |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Aug-29-07 02:47 PM |
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Yes and yes. And I know without a doubt, he will not be wasting his |
lonestarnot |
Aug-30-07 09:10 AM |
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Ignorance |
stirlingsliver |
Aug-28-07 04:55 PM |
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There are those who really want the chance to kill without |
treestar |
Aug-28-07 04:55 PM |
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Yep human trophy killers, kids women old people, doesn't matter. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:17 PM |
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People join the military for a variety of reasons |
rene moon |
Aug-28-07 04:57 PM |
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Fear, xenophobia, ignorance, racism, hostility, violence...macho America...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:08 PM |
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I have a friend who joined. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:13 PM |
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Hope he makes it. Tell him to try a student loan next time. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:18 PM |
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Thank you. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:24 PM |
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There are better wasys to care for your child than to make others into orphans |
obama_girl |
Aug-28-07 05:20 PM |
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Oh, snark. Nice. |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:23 PM |
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Exactly!! Thank-you. This totally discounts the IRAQIS... |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:27 PM |
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Do you really believe... |
India3 |
Aug-28-07 08:57 PM |
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What a nasty remark |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 10:08 AM |
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I Know This Will Sound Mean |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:26 PM |
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Madspirit, |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 05:31 PM |
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I Understand |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:37 PM |
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As the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. n/t |
Solon |
Aug-28-07 05:46 PM |
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I Also Just PMed You With An Apology...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 06:08 PM |
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Walked away from the pc for a few minutes, |
Ariana Celeste |
Aug-28-07 06:13 PM |
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I've known quite a few people that joined the military |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:19 PM |
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How Does It Serve The Country To Murder Iraqis? Just Wondering...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-28-07 05:28 PM |
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Only one has gone to Iraq |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:31 PM |
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Anyone who joins now is serving at the whim of a bushitler. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:34 PM |
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Most likely they have wanted to serve their country their whole life. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 06:16 PM |
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Were soldiers who served in World War II |
NeedleCast |
Aug-29-07 12:54 PM |
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Fighting a fucking war of lies is not serving our fucking country! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:28 PM |
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Thank you for you well reasoned and though out reply |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:32 PM |
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Your fucking welcome. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:33 PM |
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Aug-28-07 08:52 PM |
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Aug-28-07 09:39 PM |
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Bigoted? WTF are you talking about. Bigoted hmmmmf. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 11:07 PM |
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Aug-29-07 12:27 PM |
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They do not get to choose their missions. Disagree with Chimpy and his war, but |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 05:39 PM |
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Agreed |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 05:40 PM |
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In this case, truth hurts severely. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 05:41 PM |
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Which is more patriotic? Invading someone else's home, or defending your own home? n/t |
Solon |
Aug-28-07 05:54 PM |
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Wow, you're seriously dead wrong on a few things. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-28-07 09:59 PM |
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You didn't choose, and I didn't choose, what we face right now-- |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-28-07 10:09 PM |
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YESSS! |
sailor65 |
Aug-28-07 10:34 PM |
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You seem like a rational, level-headed, even-keel kinda person. |
Squatch |
Aug-28-07 07:05 PM |
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If you are talking to me you are wasting your time. I'm beyond bullshit on this fucking war. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 07:52 PM |
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Why? A lifetime of miseducation. |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 05:54 PM |
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Jebus, that is a condescending post. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 06:47 PM |
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If Americans were properly educated |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 07:04 PM |
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If must be comforting to be so much smarter than every member of the military. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 07:16 PM |
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Wait for it |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 07:31 PM |
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You must be mistaken. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 07:44 PM |
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Well according to some on DU |
tammywammy |
Aug-28-07 07:47 PM |
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Some of them are |
treestar |
Aug-29-07 09:30 AM |
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The fact that |
proffate |
Aug-28-07 08:42 PM |
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Thank you! I haven't read through all the comments yet, but I just wanted to chime in here and |
scarletwoman |
Aug-28-07 09:16 PM |
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I enlisted right after the first Iraq war. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 06:11 PM |
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How old were you then? |
Karenina |
Aug-28-07 07:15 PM |
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Like most men who enter the service 18. |
MiltonF |
Aug-28-07 09:37 PM |
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Some do it out of duty, most do it for economic reasons |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-28-07 07:30 PM |
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If you have to ask the question ...................... |
oldhippie |
Aug-28-07 08:32 PM |
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I don't want to say it's old fashioned stupidity. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-28-07 08:34 PM |
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Yup. All of them are stupid. |
Raskolnik |
Aug-28-07 09:24 PM |
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If there is one, I'd like to hear it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-29-07 10:42 AM |
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Oh great, here comes military expert Bornagin looking for an argument... |
India3 |
Aug-29-07 12:31 PM |
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Are you a warmonger? Is that what you're trying to tell us? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:50 PM |
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No. But I don't beleive people enlisting in the military are "stupid" either. |
India3 |
Aug-29-07 03:44 PM |
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Well thank you. I was an enlisted puke for 6 years and I was stupid |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 05:14 PM |
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Whatever they THINK they're doing |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-28-07 09:19 PM |
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Wonder how that private recruiting is working out.....LOL |
lonestarnot |
Aug-28-07 09:41 PM |
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Maybe because people here keep saying "Why don't they join the military if they support Bush?" |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-28-07 11:00 PM |
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Because of a perceived lack of choices. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-28-07 11:08 PM |
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So that they can be YOUR hero if there is a national disaster where you would NEED their HELP.. |
ruiner4u |
Aug-29-07 12:29 AM |
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Firefighters, EMS and aid workers can help during disasters as well |
wuushew |
Aug-29-07 09:35 AM |
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Average pay for a new enlistee is $17,400/year...... |
Mind_your_head |
Aug-29-07 12:38 AM |
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The young are impressionable. Many young men are eschewing college anyway, for technical schools. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-29-07 09:35 AM |
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Their parents should be watching out for them with the opt out box! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:51 PM |
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Even Casey Sheehan reenlisted AFTER the war in Iraq started |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-29-07 12:59 PM |
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He didn't want to leave his friends in the lurch. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-07 01:17 PM |
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I've never understood it either. |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Aug-29-07 01:01 PM |
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They offered a $20,000 signing bonus a few mths ago - a bunch of people signed up |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Aug-29-07 01:20 PM |
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Other than the secret decoder ring I can't think of a reason. nt |
Javaman |
Aug-29-07 01:41 PM |
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Money, college, benefits |
Marrah_G |
Aug-30-07 09:56 AM |
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Locking |
The Magistrate |
Aug-30-07 11:07 AM |
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