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Mon Aug-27-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 16. It's not a solicitation charge |
| -I am very conflicted about the Craig case |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 05:53 PM |
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Poor, oppressed Larry Craig. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-27-07 05:54 PM |
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This Is Easy |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 05:54 PM |
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Exactly. |
missb |
Aug-27-07 06:01 PM |
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What about airplane restrooms and the "Mile High Club"?? |
TahitiNut |
Aug-27-07 06:07 PM |
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I Suspect If You Got Caught Doing It On A Plane You Would Be Arrested... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 06:14 PM |
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So, that'd make such an activity an 'entitlement' and not a 'right,' I guess. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-27-07 06:28 PM |
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Nah |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 06:54 PM |
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FAA |
dmesg |
Aug-27-07 07:04 PM |
#53 |
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Thank You... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 07:08 PM |
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*cough* I joined the mile-high club on a C-130 *cough* |
dmesg |
Aug-27-07 09:44 PM |
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A public restroom is public |
blogslut |
Aug-27-07 07:04 PM |
#54 |
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Surely you aren't suggesting |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 07:43 PM |
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"inviting someone to have sex" |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 07:46 PM |
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Wow...... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 07:54 PM |
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True |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 08:19 PM |
#96 |
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I've had women put their hand under the partition |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:36 PM |
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Oh, come on. |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 08:38 PM |
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No, I didn't say that..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:43 PM |
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okayyyy.... |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 08:49 PM |
#116 |
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No, consensual, adult sex, out of the public eye is not a crime |
blogslut |
Aug-27-07 08:07 PM |
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Why of course that's what I'm saying. Sure it is. Gee, it's almost a verbatim quote. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-27-07 07:50 PM |
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I'm glad you clarified your stance |
blogslut |
Aug-27-07 08:04 PM |
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And to make use of the right to bear arms you have to be able to buy arms. |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 07:27 PM |
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On edit, prolly meant consenting adults...right? |
Snarkoleptic |
Aug-27-07 06:08 PM |
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There is nothing to indicate he had sex in the restroom..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 07:39 PM |
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He paid the dude 20$ so he could suck his dick. |
Omphaloskepsis |
Aug-27-07 08:04 PM |
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Sorry..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:17 PM |
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Yeah.. I got confused... |
Omphaloskepsis |
Aug-28-07 12:24 AM |
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That was Robert Allen. |
uppityperson |
Aug-27-07 08:22 PM |
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Thank you..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:38 PM |
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"I have a very wide stance when I poop," he said. "I MAY have brushed his foot." |
Bluebear |
Aug-27-07 05:56 PM |
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Did Craig know Rosemary Woods? |
WinkyDink |
Aug-27-07 06:11 PM |
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"My stance is so wide sometimes I need to put arms around another man's hips just |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 06:53 PM |
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So it just happened by chance to a guy who's had gay affair rumors |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-27-07 05:56 PM |
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So the rumors make him guilty? |
Bucky |
Aug-27-07 06:03 PM |
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No, they weren't |
deadmessengers |
Aug-27-07 06:49 PM |
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Actually I think that's wrong. They were targeting solicitation! |
napi21 |
Aug-27-07 11:13 PM |
#132 |
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Huh? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-27-07 07:13 PM |
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well duh |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 06:20 PM |
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1) He wasn't "looking too long" |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-27-07 07:15 PM |
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Then why did he plead guilty? nt |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 05:56 PM |
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He says why in his OP |
Madspirit |
Aug-27-07 05:58 PM |
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Wouldn't the guilty plea jeopardize his job and security? nt |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 06:05 PM |
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Kinda obviously it would be to a lesser charge and no need for a trial when you plead...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-27-07 06:07 PM |
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I see.... but as a public figure... |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 06:15 PM |
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given the choice between a misdemeanor and a sealed record |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 06:21 PM |
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Sticking with THIS case.... |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 06:30 PM |
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Lewd and lascivious behavior perhaps. Indecency. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 08:28 PM |
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Those aren't felonies. |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 08:47 PM |
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No. I don't think there is more to reveal. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 09:33 PM |
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I know of a straight guy who was arrested for adjusting his |
rzemanfl |
Aug-27-07 05:57 PM |
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I'm sorry, but those joggers are ruining our communities and destroying our families. |
Bucky |
Aug-27-07 06:07 PM |
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He is 5 grand worth of sorry. n/t |
rzemanfl |
Aug-27-07 06:52 PM |
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I know one who was given a citation for peeing in a bush. |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 09:02 PM |
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kudos to you for |
cali |
Aug-27-07 05:59 PM |
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Republicans want these laws. |
aquart |
Aug-27-07 05:59 PM |
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Apparently, some progressives on this forum are also happy with these laws. |
Kingshakabobo |
Aug-27-07 06:55 PM |
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Any Behavior Available To Straight Americans Should Be Available To Gay Americans... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 06:59 PM |
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But you just contradicted yourself. |
Kingshakabobo |
Aug-27-07 07:40 PM |
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Thank you. |
uppityperson |
Aug-27-07 11:02 PM |
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He Also Watched The Guy On The Crapper For Two Minutes |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-28-07 07:08 AM |
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When you represent the people... |
shoopnyc |
Aug-27-07 06:00 PM |
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I'm confused |
Randypiper |
Aug-27-07 06:00 PM |
#11 |
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It's not a solicitation charge |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-27-07 06:04 PM |
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He is a republican who opposes choice and gay marriage, right? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-27-07 06:00 PM |
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I'm glad I don't feel conflicted about it. This particular person deserves the worst |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 06:01 PM |
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Pleading guilty would not do this |
JTFrog |
Aug-27-07 06:01 PM |
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sealed record and misdemeanor vs public case and felony |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 06:22 PM |
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What felony?? nt |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 06:56 PM |
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Perhaps, but if you're a Republican Senator... |
SidDithers |
Aug-27-07 07:25 PM |
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Good thing he pled guilty and kept this all under wraps so we never found out about it |
Ghost in the Machine |
Aug-27-07 07:42 PM |
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Oh, crap, Craig got his payback for impeaching Clinton for lying about |
partylessinOhio |
Aug-27-07 06:07 PM |
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He's a lying weasel Republican pleading GUILTY, and you're not sure?! |
WinkyDink |
Aug-27-07 06:09 PM |
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I understand what you're saying... |
Neecy |
Aug-27-07 06:20 PM |
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What are you talking about. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 08:22 PM |
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I'm not conflicted in the least. The guy is a pervert. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 06:22 PM |
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He's not a pervert. He's a hypocrite..nt |
SidDithers |
Aug-27-07 07:27 PM |
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He's both. Soliciting sex in the airport bathroom makes him a pervert. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 09:18 PM |
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Are men who solicit sex (from women) in a bar perverts? eom |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 09:51 PM |
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Some are, of course. But this is a toilet. At an airport. I don't see what you are getting at. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 10:13 PM |
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There is no difference. They were not having sex. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 11:07 PM |
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You equate perversion with homosexuals. That is YOUR problem, not mine. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 11:17 PM |
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So perversion to you is about geography. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 11:26 PM |
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I guess you got me on that point. People who solicit sex in airport toilets are perverts. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 11:31 PM |
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Sorry - I mis-posted my response back to you. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 11:44 PM |
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A pervert by definition |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 11:40 PM |
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A pervert by one defintion... |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 11:50 PM |
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I see you have reverted. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 11:55 PM |
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Like the classic restroom graffiti said, "This is a teepee... |
Frank Cannon |
Aug-28-07 05:50 AM |
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Senators do not plead guilty to stuff like this |
sandnsea |
Aug-27-07 06:27 PM |
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I understand your conflicting feelings but---i would bet you anything Craig |
chimpsrsmarter |
Aug-27-07 06:27 PM |
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Good luck |
rudeboy666 |
Aug-27-07 06:46 PM |
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I really don't think people are missing the point. |
deadmessengers |
Aug-27-07 06:51 PM |
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My gay opinion is you shouldn't be having or soliciting sex in public restrooms. |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 06:53 PM |
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and my point is that I don't know he actually did solicit sex in a restroom |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 06:54 PM |
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I understand, and I think that's a point worth discussing. I wasn't directing my comment |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 06:55 PM |
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There's Lots Of Places Where Gay Men And Women Can Communicate With One Another |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 06:57 PM |
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The thing is, even if you live in a community with few resources for such contact, |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 06:59 PM |
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I think it's cause and effect... |
stillcool47 |
Aug-27-07 06:50 PM |
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the police stake out these bathrooms where these activities are taking place |
bigtree |
Aug-27-07 06:57 PM |
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I Don't Think He's Innocent, At All, BUT |
Crisco |
Aug-27-07 07:02 PM |
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The MSNBC article |
JTFrog |
Aug-27-07 07:08 PM |
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Exactly - but the police know that people will not fight |
DURHAM D |
Aug-27-07 07:10 PM |
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I just don't see that. |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 07:15 PM |
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because upon defending yourself you often have to out yourself |
dsc |
Aug-27-07 07:23 PM |
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If there were a harsher charge he feared, and pleaded guilty to this to avoid it, |
Sparkly |
Aug-27-07 07:30 PM |
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After he'd flashed his Senate ID in an attempt to pull rank? n/t |
eridani |
Aug-28-07 02:29 AM |
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Check out the videos |
JTFrog |
Aug-27-07 07:06 PM |
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Here's an excerpt from The Washington Post's coverage: |
Penndems |
Aug-27-07 07:16 PM |
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Uh, there's nothing to be conflicted about |
youngdem |
Aug-27-07 07:19 PM |
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Where did you see this....... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 07:50 PM |
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He Started Playing "Footsie" With Him... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 07:53 PM |
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That's a whole lot different than caressing a leg......n/t |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 07:57 PM |
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I dunno. On the scale of things, playing footsie is closer to a leg caress than it is to pooping. |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 08:00 PM |
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I Can't Believe Some Follks Are Being Willfully Blind... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:06 PM |
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I don't think anybody is being willfully blind..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:16 PM |
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Sometimes In This Mating Ritual |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:19 PM |
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I had a woman proposition me in a bar.......... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:31 PM |
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Big Difference |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:39 PM |
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So, if he had propositioned somewhere other than the restroom it would |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:44 PM |
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100% |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:49 PM |
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And not for combing hair, |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 09:09 PM |
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Why not tell the truth in the first place |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:13 PM |
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Who Made What Up |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:17 PM |
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Oh dammit it to hell...... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:22 PM |
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Your Beef Is With The Other Guy... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 08:24 PM |
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Truth is a good thing. |
mondo joe |
Aug-27-07 10:59 PM |
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Rubbed it with his own leg, it turns out. Read it yourself here. (link) |
youngdem |
Aug-27-07 08:03 PM |
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I didn't see anything about a leg being rubbed...... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:26 PM |
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read closely. He rubbed the policeman's foot with his. |
youngdem |
Aug-27-07 08:36 PM |
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It didn't say a damn thing about rubbing.........it |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 08:47 PM |
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Ok....Fine...You're right. TOTALLY appropriate behavior. |
youngdem |
Aug-27-07 08:59 PM |
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Where did you see that he was jerking off? |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-27-07 09:07 PM |
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Rubbed it with his own leg, it turns out. Read it yourself here. (link) |
youngdem |
Aug-27-07 08:25 PM |
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I found this and doubt the charges were trumped up |
appleannie1 |
Aug-27-07 07:22 PM |
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Keith Olbermann just mentioned that in the past, Craig denied claims that he was gay. nt |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-27-07 07:33 PM |
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This Rumor Is Almost Three Decades Old |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 07:36 PM |
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I didn't say it was that particular rumor, perhaps there have been others. All I was doing |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-27-07 08:12 PM |
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I'm sorry...... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Aug-27-07 07:47 PM |
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Gay Americans Should Have The Same Right As Straight Americans |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-27-07 07:51 PM |
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Long time suspicions. . . and why restroom sex? Why not a hotel? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-27-07 07:58 PM |
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what did Larry Craig have to say about Bill Clinton? |
grasswire |
Aug-27-07 08:43 PM |
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I'm glad you asked |
Bluebear |
Aug-27-07 09:03 PM |
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What a fucking waste of law enforcement's time |
alarimer |
Aug-27-07 08:45 PM |
#113 |
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would you want to take your children into a rest room and |
appleannie1 |
Aug-27-07 11:21 PM |
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Why in the world are people trying to excuse this guy's behavior? DU gets weirder everyday. |
Beausoir |
Aug-27-07 09:24 PM |
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and history is replete with people who have admitted it |
dsc |
Aug-28-07 05:17 AM |
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I chalk it up to attention-seeking behavior |
Frank Cannon |
Aug-28-07 06:01 AM |
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fuck him, this "sting" is the kind of shit Repigs get off on |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-07 11:46 PM |
#139 |
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I have a question for you all... |
UNCLE_Rico |
Aug-28-07 12:26 AM |
#143 |
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If People Go To A Place Like The Power Exchange And Have Public Sex That's Their Right... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-28-07 12:41 AM |
#144 |
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I agree with your posts in this thread |
Zenzic |
Aug-28-07 06:39 AM |
#149 |
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