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Response to Reply #184
191. You are referring to the 'Socratic Method' of instruction...
The teacher answers no questions, but rather responds to questions with further questions to lead the student to find his own answer.

It is a form of instruction that requires the student to analytically solve their own problems, which is what lawyers do --solve problems.

It can be maddening when the student knows the teacher has the answer but will not give it to him. But in time you start to 'think like a lawyer' which is the key. It is more important to know how to find the answer than for someone to just tell you the bit of information you need today.

I think Anon is bringing people along because he realizes that a full disclosure would overwhelm people here, and that would likely expose his/her identity 'inside' the Administration --if he/she is still 'inside' and not now a 'whistleblower.'
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  -Kpete...BlackHatJack...anon is back, Can you explain this to me? Buttercup McToots  Aug-20-07 08:49 AM   #0 
  - WOW!  kpete   Aug-20-07 08:53 AM   #1 
  - Hell, almost all of his posts confuse me. I always need an  acmavm   Aug-20-07 08:57 AM   #2 
     - So, Deep Modem (not to be confused with our distinguished  Texas Explorer   Aug-20-07 10:16 AM   #25 
        - Maybe they got his second in command. Like they always do  acmavm   Aug-20-07 11:08 AM   #36 
  - There are some on dailykos checking his  shraby   Aug-20-07 09:00 AM   #3 
  - drational is the person on kos following this. I don't know kos-is there a way  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:02 AM   #5 
     - just register and post. It's free!  librechik   Aug-20-07 09:31 AM   #9 
        - I find their site too confusing, & don't like their coverage of '04 but found an email  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:43 AM   #15 
           - yeah--navigating Kos is a hopeless task  librechik   Aug-20-07 11:54 AM   #40 
  - Wow is right. Not a big surprise here:  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:00 AM   #4 
  - Link is over at TPM. Just for those that don't know..  truth2power   Aug-20-07 09:05 AM   #6 
  - Posts like this make me realize how computer ignorant I am.  panader0   Aug-20-07 09:21 AM   #7 
  - You and me both!  Hepburn   Aug-20-07 10:16 AM   #24 
  - I am baffled at this point.  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 09:29 AM   #8 
  - What do all the references to "wiki" mean? What is that "wiki?"  KoKo01   Aug-20-07 11:29 AM   #38 
     - A wiki is information that anyone can add to, subtract from or edit  TalkingDog   Aug-20-07 12:04 PM   #42 
        - ..thanks.... n/t  KoKo01   Aug-20-07 12:27 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-07 09:33 AM   #10 
  - One thing is guaranteed ... 'insiders' inevitably squirrel away information for later use...  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 09:33 AM   #11 
  - one could wonder.....  KoKo01   Aug-20-07 11:37 AM   #39 
     - Anon explains this in the latest post, if you reread you'll find the explanation.  redacted   Aug-20-07 04:16 PM   #62 
     - How do we know he didn't? Is there really any reason to believe that?  Raksha   Aug-20-07 11:17 PM   #99 
        - Maybe he trusts TPM or does not want to give up his IP to others.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 02:45 AM   #101 
  - Very interesting  DemReadingDU   Aug-20-07 09:35 AM   #12 
  - IMHO the failure of TPM to comment on Anonymous is important.  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 09:41 AM   #13 
  - JMM is very cautious.  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:46 AM   #16 
  - To get to the truth, ask what is not being said and why?  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 09:52 AM   #17 
     - I could read it either way concerning JMM...  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:56 AM   #18 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-07 10:07 AM   #21 
     - I have no idea but am suggesting that the silence may NOT be indicative of anything.  mod mom   Aug-20-07 10:10 AM   #22 
     - TPM knows the IP of posts  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 04:44 PM   #68 
        - Link please?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 04:55 PM   #73 
           - Here is a log file request  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 05:54 PM   #82 
     - BlackHatJack  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 10:00 AM   #20 
        - Sometimes, what people don't say can me more revealing  formercia   Aug-20-07 10:12 AM   #23 
        - On a very superficial basis, I am commenting on TPM and its silence....  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 10:42 AM   #28 
           - I know I am not the only "anonymous" on TPM n/t  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 04:46 PM   #69 
  - maybe because...  RainDog   Aug-21-07 06:51 PM   #153 
  - K & R  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 09:43 AM   #14 
  - I rarely have a headache this early in a day but this"subject"  snappyturtle   Aug-20-07 09:57 AM   #19 
  - Smoke 'em Out  formercia   Aug-20-07 10:35 AM   #27 
     - We can only hope! n/t  snappyturtle   Aug-20-07 10:58 AM   #33 
  - The Grand Jury. What Grand Jury?  Canuckistanian   Aug-20-07 10:34 AM   #26 
  - I can't make heads or tails of it.  yibbehobba   Aug-20-07 10:43 AM   #29 
  - I cannot find anything at DKos about this... anyone have a link?  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 10:48 AM   #30 
  - Here's one:  mod mom   Aug-20-07 11:05 AM   #35 
     - Thanks for the link.... how did you find it at DKos? Did you use their search tool?  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 11:08 AM   #37 
        - Google. I really haven't figured out kos.  mod mom   Aug-20-07 11:54 AM   #41 
  - wow i am overwhelmed..i have just read this 4 times and i know i am over my head..  flyarm   Aug-20-07 10:49 AM   #31 
  - Perhaps...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Aug-21-07 09:25 PM   #160 
  - could the grand jury have been the grand jury involved in the Valerie Plame case??  flyarm   Aug-20-07 10:57 AM   #32 
  - Getting more complicated...  freebrew   Aug-21-07 09:50 AM   #117 
  - Not every Grand Jury is known to the public. Note the use of caps  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 12:36 PM   #130 
  - "The Grand Jury and others will decide ..." FUTURE TENSE  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 10:59 AM   #34 
  - For folks following the "anonymous" mystery poster at TPM, a few questions...  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 12:48 PM   #44 
  - I haven't  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 01:48 PM   #49 
  - Buttercup is that the entire post or do you have a link ?  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 01:59 PM   #50 
  - I don't have a link...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 02:09 PM   #51 
     - I have done the same thing, and recently realized....  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 02:29 PM   #52 
     - I know...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 02:38 PM   #53 
        - LOL ... feel any better that we both made the same mistake?  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 02:51 PM   #55 
     - here's a link  southern_belle   Aug-20-07 03:49 PM   #58 
        - Thanks for the link... and now that I examine the page it appeared on I wonder....  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 04:20 PM   #63 
           - I wondered the same thing???  southern_belle   Aug-20-07 05:02 PM   #75 
  - If true, who is making the deals?  OzarkDem   Aug-20-07 02:51 PM   #54 
  - The WH OSC is probably making the deals, like w/Rove, to avoid scandal  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 04:51 PM   #70 
     - I have the feeling Rove left for another reason ....  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 07:30 PM   #88 
        - We atleast have evidence w/ regard to Hatch Act, the OSC Report re Doan.  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 08:01 PM   #89 
           - That would be the logical conclusion... but this is what sticks out to me  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 08:42 PM   #92 
              - Rove is anything but ousted. He is just off the USG payroll. He is still working  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 09:14 PM   #95 
  - I am hopeful once again  bluesmail   Aug-20-07 04:21 PM   #64 
  - If you're looking for that person anonymous, then go to 4chan. hehe, has to be some here...  SayWhatYo   Aug-21-07 07:39 PM   #157 
  - I tell you. Wherever there is a rank smelly conspiracy, there's lawyers involved:  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-20-07 01:03 PM   #45 
  - And when conspiracies and corruption are exposed, Lawyers are usually the heroes...  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 01:11 PM   #46 
     - There is something terribly wrong with a system that is self-policed and still  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-20-07 01:18 PM   #47 
        - We do allow citizens("Joe Public") to play such a role in our state...  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 01:26 PM   #48 
           - Wherever there is a public interest, there should be no gagged settlements.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-20-07 02:53 PM   #56 
              - You have raised important issues, but you are not aware of what is going on....  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 03:45 PM   #57 
                 - Bravo  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 03:58 PM   #60 
                 - Wonderful read.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-20-07 04:56 PM   #74 
                 - There is much more I could tell you if attorney/client privilege did not apply  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 06:27 PM   #86 
                 - Keep fighting the good fight. n/t  hootinholler   Aug-20-07 05:29 PM   #79 
  - HATE having to work when news like this breaks!  redacted   Aug-20-07 03:51 PM   #59 
  - RE: "It's an error to only focus on the RNC e-mails to fill in the gaps. . ." RIGHT!  redacted   Aug-20-07 04:03 PM   #61 
  - My question is 'Now that they know they left internet trails, how much can be erased?'  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 04:25 PM   #65 
  - Here are 2 early ones posted on CREW that he suggested be copied in case they disappear:  mod mom   Aug-20-07 04:28 PM   #66 
  - I copied 3 additional posting dates from Muck if anyone is interested. long.  mod mom   Aug-20-07 04:32 PM   #67 
  - Yes!!  southern_belle   Aug-20-07 05:56 PM   #83 
     - 7/27 anon posting @ Muck:  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:31 PM   #96 
     - 7/28 and 7/29 Posting @ Muck:  mod mom   Aug-20-07 09:33 PM   #97 
  - Bradford A. Berenson, WH counsel, Represented Executive on Issues from Homeland Security to the USA  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 05:04 PM   #76 
  - But BlackHatJack  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 04:51 PM   #71 
     - I believe that is true.... so they are trying to change the road signs to disrail the search  Blackhatjack   Aug-20-07 06:24 PM   #85 
  - Exactly! They use SharePoint  nonny   Aug-21-07 11:14 PM   #168 
  - Here's another possible worksharing set up like a wiki  InkAddict   Aug-22-07 01:33 AM   #181 
  - More on SharePoint  nonny   Aug-22-07 12:10 AM   #176 
  - JOINT DOCTRINE PROCESS = poke around in here  L. Coyote   Aug-24-07 01:05 AM   #209 
  - SharePoint -- CA Dept of Justice  nonny   Aug-22-07 12:58 AM   #179 
  - big k and r  G_Leo_Criley   Aug-20-07 04:55 PM   #72 
  - Any thought to the idea: "third party data capture" = wiki IP data?  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 05:17 PM   #77 
  - L. Coyote  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 05:23 PM   #78 
     - Yes. Every single hit on a domain is logged and the IP number of the computer  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 05:43 PM   #80 
        - Just remember that some people use proxy servers  dotcosm   Aug-20-07 09:14 PM   #94 
           - "They're still tring to figure out how they're in power despite their stupidity."  redacted   Aug-20-07 10:12 PM   #98 
           - Yep. And IP addys can be spoofed, as well.  TahitiNut   Aug-21-07 06:47 PM   #152 
  - Wow! - just wow!  southern_belle   Aug-20-07 05:53 PM   #81 
  - In part, what this means, is that those who have something to hide need to fear  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 05:59 PM   #84 
     - That's my take on it too. n/t  Raksha   Aug-20-07 11:46 PM   #100 
  - WA POST By Dan Froomkin: White House Wiki Watch  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 07:30 PM   #87 
  - k  Buttercup McToots   Aug-20-07 08:14 PM   #90 
  - good example  L. Coyote   Aug-20-07 08:32 PM   #91 
  - These are the ips of those who change it?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 08:50 AM   #114 
     - Correct, the White House IP block. Their server will have a record of the individual computers  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:00 AM   #122 
  - Thanks for posting this -- when I heard the news about the wiki/IP stuff  dotcosm   Aug-20-07 09:01 PM   #93 
  - Good Mornin`  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 05:06 AM   #102 
  - Wish anon had a friend that  rosesaylavee   Aug-21-07 06:19 AM   #103 
  - This is interesting...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 07:15 AM   #104 
  - The doc log provided by OVP is likely designed to mislead and divert attention...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 07:27 AM   #106 
  - The subpoena was issued to the WH. OVP responded. NOT?  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:05 AM   #124 
  - To kibbitz and kick -- a couple of things  Senator   Aug-21-07 07:20 AM   #105 
  - Posted for the Senator...comments...?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 07:40 AM   #107 
  - This may be the most significant explanation yet of how to unravel this mystery....  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 08:04 AM   #108 
  - I agree BHJ  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 08:07 AM   #109 
  - wow, great sleuthing  DemReadingDU   Aug-21-07 08:26 AM   #111 
  - This is wowie zowie...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 08:10 AM   #110 
  - That post was made by TPM's Anon, I'm sure of it  dotcosm   Aug-21-07 02:30 PM   #135 
     - Well, I sure hope he's techie enough...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Aug-21-07 09:46 PM   #161 
        - Just walk thru any rich R neighborhood and use an unsecure wireless server.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 09:54 PM   #162 
           - Excellent point.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Aug-21-07 10:05 PM   #163 
  - morning kick  G_Leo_Criley   Aug-21-07 08:27 AM   #112 
  - kick and question  RainDog   Aug-21-07 08:47 AM   #113 
  - I agree about JMM being cautious, but at some point acknowledging the comment is newsworthy...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 09:05 AM   #115 
  - Just a theory... but could RNC complicity and corruption be out in the open  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 09:24 AM   #116 
  - Exactly  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 09:51 AM   #118 
  - First, they would have had to be doing something wrong. This is very doubtful.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:22 AM   #125 
     - I agree with you regarding this corrupt enterprise... however, ....  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 01:14 PM   #134 
     - That's a far stretch from the Occam's Razor Principle.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 02:56 PM   #139 
        - It was an open secret that Tom Delay practiced just such politics on the Hill...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 04:29 PM   #143 
     - Pardon me for bringing this up on Democratic Underground....  AntiFascist   Aug-21-07 05:21 PM   #146 
        - There is no logical explanation why Democrats have not embraced Sibel Edmonds...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 06:02 PM   #148 
        - Why should this topic be subject to apoplogy?  Babsbrain   Aug-21-07 06:30 PM   #151 
        - It is much easier to bring things up than to back them up. n/t  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 08:29 PM   #159 
           - Hmmm, this is interesting "propaganda"....  AntiFascist   Aug-21-07 10:42 PM   #167 
              - There are several possible paths to consider.  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 11:10 AM   #198 
                 - It seems pretty clear what was going on....  AntiFascist   Aug-22-07 03:36 PM   #204 
  - Interesting...and here's something from the C&L Comments Section  KoKo01   Aug-21-07 04:58 PM   #144 
  - Somebody better hurry up...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 10:00 AM   #119 
  - He was over on Think P last night, I think...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 10:19 AM   #120 
  - I followed instructions and put ref in search engine and got a whale of a lot of info, now...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 10:51 AM   #121 
  - What does it mean?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 11:01 AM   #123 
  - I would cut and paste some of it but it is huge, and divided into groups...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 12:31 PM   #129 
     - I Posted in the Computer Users Group for Someone to Help Us with This  Wiley50   Aug-21-07 12:54 PM   #133 
     - "Type the following phrase into your SEARCH ENGINE OF CHOICE"  redacted   Aug-21-07 06:18 PM   #149 
        - I think you are definitely onto something here....  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 10:37 PM   #164 
        - Google is the one to use. What he is saying/illustrating is the IP records  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:19 PM   #169 
        - Why the different results between using Google and Yahoo?  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 11:25 PM   #170 
        - Each search engine crawls their own list of web sites and caches what they think are relevant  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:43 PM   #172 
           - So what do you make of the results from each? Google & Yahoo? n/t  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 11:52 PM   #173 
              - Google treats the IP string as one word, Yahoo treats it as 4 terms  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 12:06 AM   #175 
                 - Don't think so, L. Coyote  redacted   Aug-22-07 02:42 AM   #182 
                    - We are using slightly different search requests, with big results differences.  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 03:46 PM   #206 
                       - Right, with these specific Wiki edits:  redacted   Aug-22-07 08:22 PM   #208 
        - I get this...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 06:39 AM   #186 
        - I got into it a few minutes ago  southern_belle   Aug-22-07 07:30 AM   #188 
        - Never mind....  southern_belle   Aug-22-07 08:11 AM   #190 
        - I can still see it...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 10:55 AM   #195 
  - We Have Members, like Tahiti Nut, Who Have Been Working With IT Since Mainframes  Wiley50   Aug-21-07 11:36 AM   #127 
     - I haven't been active in the disciplines for over 7 years.  TahitiNut   Aug-21-07 07:15 PM   #154 
        - Thanks So Much for your input on this  Wiley50   Aug-21-07 07:38 PM   #156 
  - E-Brother Knows Everything. IE> Google knows every WH search ever made.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:29 AM   #126 
  - "Set your phasers on WTF"  AntiFascist   Aug-22-07 01:03 AM   #180 
  - K and R n/t  Wiley50   Aug-21-07 12:00 PM   #128 
  - IMPORTANT: There is more than one poster on TPM not using any name.  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 12:40 PM   #131 
  - Yes L. Coyote  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 12:52 PM   #132 
  - Old info  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 02:36 PM   #136 
  - wiki  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 02:40 PM   #137 
  -  TahitiNut   Aug-21-07 07:25 PM   #155 
  - Search also for UCLAs, Unilaterally Controlled Latin Assets  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 02:43 PM   #138 
     - Where are we going?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 03:05 PM   #140 
        - Secret Covert Global Warfare  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 03:51 PM   #142 
  - Rawstory...don't know  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 03:25 PM   #141 
  - BHJ  Buttercup McToots   Aug-21-07 05:15 PM   #145 
  - That is the way I see it.  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 05:57 PM   #147 
  - I was just about to post that it's a little disconcerting  dotcosm   Aug-21-07 06:27 PM   #150 
     - I don't think you can register anonymously here at DU  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 07:40 PM   #158 
     - What is anon's IP?  Tansy_Gold   Aug-21-07 10:41 PM   #166 
        - I gave it a quick shot, and right off found a Hatch Act violation I thought actionable  L. Coyote   Aug-21-07 11:38 PM   #171 
        - Soooo  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 08:37 AM   #193 
        - Tansy, all the "questions" are done for good reasons.  redacted   Aug-22-07 03:21 AM   #184 
           - You are referring to the 'Socratic Method' of instruction...  Blackhatjack   Aug-22-07 08:13 AM   #191 
  - buttercup look at post 149 above by redacted... I think it is significant...  Blackhatjack   Aug-21-07 10:39 PM   #165 
  - And Look At Nonny's Post's 168 and 176 about SharePoint  Wiley50   Aug-22-07 12:27 AM   #177 
  - Buttercup, mi cabeza esta hilado!!  shance   Aug-21-07 11:57 PM   #174 
  - "They have non-official IM-systems which you have not been specifically made aware or requested."  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 12:51 AM   #178 
  - Right. Everyone needs to stop thinking strictly in terms of email  redacted   Aug-22-07 03:04 AM   #183 
  - Well...I see the night crew has been busy...  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 05:34 AM   #185 
  - More anon ...8/21/07  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 06:49 AM   #187 
  - FEMA uses SharePoint software too  nonny   Aug-22-07 08:29 AM   #192 
  - Some plausible conclusions that we might draw from Anon's posts....  Blackhatjack   Aug-22-07 08:07 AM   #189 
  - A reflection on that  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 10:57 AM   #196 
     - I agree with your Hatch Act analysis... but I think there is more driving the resignations  Blackhatjack   Aug-22-07 11:09 AM   #197 
        - Good analysis. I would add, to the last moment, they did not forsee  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 01:14 PM   #200 
  - This is off topic somewhat...but  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 09:00 AM   #194 
  - So...I repeat...What do we do now?  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 12:14 PM   #199 
  - Haven't we already done it?  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 01:22 PM   #201 
  - Thank you L Coyote  Buttercup McToots   Aug-22-07 03:11 PM   #203 
     - Looks like TPM is being monitored by a "quick reaction" worm.  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 03:39 PM   #205 
  - We slurp coffee and try to wake up so we can function on the job today?  redacted   Aug-22-07 02:47 PM   #202 
  - Spin Off for Links to Deep Modem Posts  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 04:45 PM   #207 

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